One thing I noticed about HB

[VFLCodyGBO]

The kid has an absolute cannon. He can’t quite control it just yet, but when he gets his accuracy down he has so much potential. The deep throws to Hyatt and Jones had a ton of zip. Definitely reminiscent of Tyler Bray in terms of arm strength, hopefully he only got the physical characteristics of Bray.

 

[jps2194]

I was more impressed by his ability to go through his progressions and feel pocket pressure. We haven't seen those skills in a while!

 

[VOLfrombama]

I was more impressed by his ability to go through his progressions and feel pocket pressure. We haven't seen those skills in a while!

came in to say this. His progressions are the best I've seen since Bray or Ainge. He needs more live reps and chemistry with his receivers.

When he did feel pressure, he scrambled and got some first downs!
Someone needs to teach him how to slide though.

 

[Gandalf]

Yes, he can sling it but as JPS mentioned, it is his ability to feel pressure and side step it or take off with it that is sorely needed. JG is tough as and immobile as a rock. Bailey has gotten himself out of several bad situations with his feet and awareness and those abilities are only going to improve as he continues playing.

It is also Bailey's ability to throw it where the receiver WILL be instead of where they are. Soooooooo friggen often receivers either had to stop or backtrack to get a ball JG threw or he sent them a bullet from 5 feet away. Bailey is a pleasure to watch when he throws.

I will say JT also has a good arm.

 

[JohnWardForever]

It was very obvious on those summer workout vids that HB had a big arm. 40 yards on a rope.

 

[Commish14]

He looks like a young Eric Foreman from "That '70's Show" with his helmet on. Thus when he screws up he gets the ole, "Come on Foreman" !!!!!

 

[CAVPUT]

The kid has an absolute cannon. He can’t quite control it just yet, but when he gets his accuracy down he has so much potential. The deep throws to Hyatt and Jones had a ton of zip. Definitely reminiscent of Tyler Bray in terms of arm strength, hopefully he only got the physical characteristics of Bray.

Didn't think his arm is that great. More of a west coast type guy. Shorter routes with timing. Not gonna do much with his legs. Give him time and some great WRs and he'll be fine. No where near Brays arm....of Shrouts for that matter.

 

[Pacer92]

Didn't think his arm is that great. More of a west coast type guy. Shorter routes with timing. Not gonna do much with his legs. Give him time and some great WRs and he'll be fine. No where near Brays arm....of Shrouts for that matter.

Agree, arm strength isn’t elite. I was impressed with his progressions and check downs...internal clock. Just needs more reps.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Didn't think his arm is that great. More of a west coast type guy. Shorter routes with timing. Not gonna do much with his legs. Give him time and some great WRs and he'll be fine. No where near Brays arm....of Shrouts for that matter.

I think Shrout throws a better deep ball but HB can put more zip on it. Glad to have them both, and I'm glad they are 1 and 2. They're clearly the best QBs on the roster.

 

[Bigorange123]

He needs to get the long ball figured out, always been his Achilles heel

 

[FranklinVFL]

came in to say this. His progressions are the best I've seen since Bray or Ainge. He needs more live reps and chemistry with his receivers.

When he did feel pressure, he scrambled and got some first downs!
Someone needs to teach him how to slide though.

You guys are 100% on point there. You could visually see him go through all progressions and even go back to initial targets as well.

He has the tools. Just needs time to develop chemistry with receivers and live-game snaps so the game can continue to slow down.

But I loved seeing him go through the progressions and not just stay locked on one receiver.

Time and experience will help with accuracy and when to expect those back-shoulder throws as well as knowing how much to lead receivers on longer throws.

 

[VFLCodyGBO]

Didn't think his arm is that great. More of a west coast type guy. Shorter routes with timing. Not gonna do much with his legs. Give him time and some great WRs and he'll be fine. No where near Brays arm....of Shrouts for that matter.

I agree with your first point, his completions are certainly more west coast style, but when you look at deep balls, HB has way more on his that JTS has. Could it be because Shrout puts less on it for accuracy? Maybe, but based on the sample size I have, HB appears to have more power.

 

[GBOplayer]

At this point, from what I have seen, it looks like HB is a very good game manager. Not sure what his ceiling is, but we need a better and more experienced team surrounding him in order for him to succeed. JT is more of a gun slinger. At this time I think our team needs more of the gun slinger QB. Thats why I believed the starting job should go to JT. Let HB learn and develop more...he should be ready with another year of practice.

 

[rocketskates]

I was more impressed by his ability to go through his progressions and feel pocket pressure. We haven't seen those skills in a while!

Not a bad scrambler when he needs to be either. He definitely was able to gain some respect from Florida’s defense, the fact that he was able to scramble means they weren’t stacking the box and were working to cover the receivers.

 

[Redleg68]

I think Shrout throws a better deep ball but HB can put more zip on it. Glad to have them both, and I'm glad they are 1 and 2. They're clearly the best QBs on the roster.

What about HB's release time? I may be wrong but thought it was a little slow. Maybe that is the reason they brought Shrout in that time for one snap to throw the quick out route.

 

[lukeneyland]

HB can read the field and make a safe decision. I really like him. Shrout played great to. I’d like to see Chaney actually make an effort to call unpredictable plays. I think we started every possession with a run play until the 4th quarter

 

[tnvols72]

He needs to get the long ball figured out, always been his Achilles heel

Always? His long balls were fine in high school. He just need to get more reps and work on his timing. Its not always been a problem, you got him mixed up with JG

 

[rusty11]

What about HB's release time? I may be wrong but thought it was a little slow. Maybe that is the reason they brought Shrout in that time for one snap to throw the quick out route.

That was Maurer that came in for one play. I thought it was to trick UF into thinking it was a running play. I like HB's presence and he can throw a nice catch on the run swing pass. I though his arm was fine, I think he just throws different speeds for different passes. JG could not do that.

 

[Spook1]

At this point, from what I have seen, it looks like HB is a very good game manager. Not sure what his ceiling is, but we need a better and more experienced team surrounding him in order for him to succeed. JT is more of a gun slinger. At this time I think our team needs more of the gun slinger QB. Thats why I believed the starting job should go to JT. Let HB learn and develop more...he should be ready with another year of practice.

Bailey was an early entry in January, unfortunately the Vols and some other schools had no Spring training...this hindered the quick development of Bailey. We now have two young QB's to finish the year and develop for 2021.

 

[DarkAvenger]

The kid has an absolute cannon. He can’t quite control it just yet, but when he gets his accuracy down he has so much potential. The deep throws to Hyatt and Jones had a ton of zip. Definitely reminiscent of Tyler Bray in terms of arm strength, hopefully he only got the physical characteristics of Bray.

I didn’t see a cannon. Shrout has a cannon.

 

[sjt18]

To be honest... I didn't see that. He definitely doesn't have Shrout's arm strength and maybe not Maurer's.

However what I did notice and like is more important. He's decisive. His decisions and timing need to be cleaned up... but he doesn't hesitate. On shorter throws he has a good release and isn't afraid to throw receivers open or throw into tight windows.

He doesn't have a Bray level arm.... which is not to say he has a bad arm. But IMO the "signs" that he can become a really good QB are the things happening between his ears.

 

[VFLCodyGBO]

At this point, from what I have seen, it looks like HB is a very good game manager. Not sure what his ceiling is, but we need a better and more experienced team surrounding him in order for him to succeed. JT is more of a gun slinger. At this time I think our team needs more of the gun slinger QB. Thats why I believed the starting job should go to JT. Let HB learn and develop more...he should be ready with another year of practice.

I’m not completely convinced of this, but I think it’s a possibility. JT benefitted from garbage time snaps with a soft partially 2nd string defense whereas HB had to deal with a full powered D that was blitzing like crazy. I’d like to see JT against a defense during real game time.

 

[SmokeyDog1973]

I really liked how Shrout threw the ball Saturday

 

[VOL6479]

When he developes more accuracy he could compare to a Casey Clausen with a stronger arm and more mobile.

 

[rocketskates]

To be honest... I didn't see that. He definitely doesn't have Shrout's arm strength and maybe not Maurer's.

However what I did notice and like is more important. He's decisive. His decisions and timing need to be cleaned up... but he doesn't hesitate. On shorter throws he has a good release and isn't afraid to throw receivers open or throw into tight windows.

He doesn't have a Bray level arm.... which is not to say he has a bad arm. But IMO the "signs" that he can become a really good QB are the things happening between his ears.

I agree and when he makes his reads and there are no receivers open down field he will always look to the runningback. On many pass plays the runningback is there as a bailout for the quarterback if no one else is open. JG rarely used that option and would just fire it into double coverage.