Oklahoma and Texas have reached out to join the SEC (allegedly)

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onevol74 said:
The only good thing I see is that Texas boosters can out bid Bama boosters for players. Makes sense now why Nick made the statement about the NIL earlier in the week.
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Yeah, but..... and Sark may change this..... Texas can't win. They aren't back.

Until that happens, Saban and Dabo look straight at a kid and say, "How would you like to have a ring as a freshman? Who else can give you that chance and that exposure?"

Maybe TX can offer the short money, Bama can start a career worth multi-millions.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
The ONLY good news as far as I can see in the foreseeable future, is that Sankey is on your side, and he seems to be the al capone of what's left of college ball. He has an opportunity for an enormous power grab here, and if you are listening to his interviews, he is acting the part very well. Sankey Is "The Commish" for the immediate future. That could work well for UT.
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Tennessee really needs to flip the bird to the NCAA.
 
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vols 30 said:
Say goodbye to playing big time OOC games. Those OOC games would have to be against cupcakes
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As conferences grow bigger, you can kiss OCC games goodbye. There wont be room for them. the only time you will play outside your conference is in the future 12 team playoff or a second tier bowl game.
 
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Wow would not have predicted this...they just destroyed the whole Big12 and did it behind the other schools backs.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
Tennessee really needs to flip the bird to the NCAA.
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I would agree, but here this guy Emmert sits, and controls more then football. He still holds a lot of influence in basketball and other sports. The NCAA will also still be the entity that hands out grants and gifts. It just has no jurisdiction anymore. Nothing to stand on. They also have bigger issues rn. Last thing Sankey will want to do is get in a war with emmert right away.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
I must be one of the only people not happy about this. I still don't like having A&M or Missouri in the conference and now they go and let TX & OU in.

SEC should probably change their name while they are at as it no longer represents what the Conference looks like.

I see a North/South realignment coming.
North
Tennessee
Georgia
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Missouri
Oklahoma

South
South Carolina
Florida
Alabama
Auburn
Mississippi State
LSU
Texas A&M
Texas
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The Southern Conference would be better.
 
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golfballs said:
Any school voting against this is essentially cutting off their nose to spite their face.
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Yeah the economic upside is going to be too good for any university president to actually vote 'no'.

It will be interesting to see how they get out of owing the Big12 the ~$80 million each for leaving the conference before the current tv contract is up.
 
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onevol74 said:
The only good thing I see is that Texas boosters can out bid Bama boosters for players. Makes sense now why Nick made the statement about the NIL earlier in the week.
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Going to be interesting to see the balance that the SEC will have to create in terms of player compensation. There will have to be some rules to establish a reasonable competitive balance.
 
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I just put 1+1 together. it probably took me longer then it should have. Sankey and the SEC have aligned themselves with Disney. Sankey is just the face. This is a Disney type restructuring. No wonder it seemed like such a classical take over.
 
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I'm sure Boyd is seeing all those $$$$ and can't help himself, but this will ultimately be the final death knell for UT ever becoming relevant in college football again.

Recruiting will only get more difficult with Oklahoma and Texas in the conference once they start pulling more recruits from SEC states.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Yeah the economic upside is going to be too good for any university president to actually vote 'no'.

It will be interesting to see how they get out of owing the Big12 the ~$80 million each for leaving the conference before the current tv contract is up.
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They won't "get out of it". They will gladly pay their bill and leave. the net money they will gain being in the SEC will make up for that 80 million.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Yeah the economic upside is going to be too good for any university president to actually vote 'no'.

It will be interesting to see how they get out of owing the Big12 the ~$80 million each for leaving the conference before the current tv contract is up.
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Not sure what grounds Maryland had but they were able to sue and leave the ACC for less than the expected $50M. It was around $30M and yet that still made sense for Maryland to pay. With Texas and Oklahoma hauling in around double the annual revenue of Maryland already, and the prospects of a higher revenue in the SEC, I’m sure they will probably make it work sooner than later. Maybe a 1 year farewell tour before bolting.
 
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BeardedVol said:
I'm sure Boyd is seeing all those $$$$ and can't help himself, but this will ultimately be the final death knell for UT ever becoming relevant in college football again.

Recruiting will only get more difficult with Oklahoma and Texas in the conference once they start pulling more recruits from SEC states.
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I dont think this will hurt recruiting as much as NIL will. I dont think Tennessee competed all that often with these schools in recruiting and their geography isnt changing.
 
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golfballs said:
Not sure what grounds Maryland had but they were able to sue and leave the ACC for less than the expected $50M. It was around $30M and yet that still made sense for Maryland to pay. With Texas and Oklahoma hauling in around double the annual revenue of Maryland already, and the prospects of a higher revenue in the SEC, I’m sure they will probably make it work sooner than later. Maybe a 1 year farewell tour before bolting.
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If Sankey wasn't going to try to make it happen in 2022, then I doubt we'd be hearing about it now.
 
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BeardedVol said:
I'm sure Boyd is seeing all those $$$$ and can't help himself, but this will ultimately be the final death knell for UT ever becoming relevant in college football again.

Recruiting will only get more difficult with Oklahoma and Texas in the conference once they start pulling more recruits from SEC states.
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I see it helping recruiting as it opens up TX even more for us. It also makes all SEC schools more attractive to kids out of the region.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
I must be one of the only people not happy about this. I still don't like having A&M or Missouri in the conference and now they go and let TX & OU in.

SEC should probably change their name while they are at as it no longer represents what the Conference looks like.

I see a North/South realignment coming.
North
Tennessee
Georgia
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Missouri
Oklahoma

South
South Carolina
Florida
Alabama
Auburn
Mississippi State
LSU
Texas A&M
Texas
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I don't like it, either. I do think Texas, A&M and OU fit in more than Mizzou, though. Honestly, culturally and geographically, Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech and Virginia Tech probably fit in more than the four ex-Big XII schools that we now/will have. Then again, we have Vandy in the conference and they're the biggest oddballs, by far.

They're going to have to do away with East/West, though, unless they want to look like absolute friggin idiots. The SEC already looks stupid AF for having Mizzou in the "East". Now we're going to have either Texas or OU in the East when they're the the two most western schools in the conference. Or they could just deal with Mizzou being in the East, move Auburn to the East and put both Texas and OU in the West (which makes the most sense). I'm sure it will revolve around Bama and what they want, though, and I highly doubt they will be okay with playing both Texas and OU every season.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
I dont think this will hurt recruiting as much as NIL will. I dont think Tennessee competed all that often with these schools in recruiting and their geography isnt changing.
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You're taking two programs with massive recruiting budgets, and administrations that are hell-bent on winning, and adding them to the SEC.

There's pretty much no way that UT doesn't lose in this scenario with our administration and history of poor decision-making.
 
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golfballs said:
Not sure what grounds Maryland had but they were able to sue and leave the ACC for less than the expected $50M. It was around $30M and yet that still made sense for Maryland to pay. With Texas and Oklahoma hauling in around double the annual revenue of Maryland already, and the prospects of a higher revenue in the SEC, I’m sure they will probably make it work sooner than later. Maybe a 1 year farewell tour before bolting.
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I think this will happen immediately (2022). They wont draw this thing out. The other schools will want to figure out sooner than later if the Big12 will implode or if they will get new schools on board.
 
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