Oklahoma and Texas have reached out to join the SEC (allegedly)

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FBtime said:
Would be interesting to see what the by-laws are and how many No votes it would take to stop the deal. A&M Surely would vote no.
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Anybody else think A&M leaked this during SEC media days as a preemptive strike? Oklahoma would have a shot maybe, but Texas would never get in.
 
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ksgovols said:
Anybody else think A&M leaked this during SEC media days as a preemptive strike? Oklahoma would have a shot maybe, but Texas would never get in.
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Yes. They wanted to whine about it. But if they thought they could stop it they wouldn't have gone public with it now. They would have waited until the headline is "A&M Prevents Texas From Joining SEC".
 
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"We don't want Texas or Oklahoma." Yes, well, I'm not sure many of us wanted Texas A&M or Missouri but here we are, aren't we?

It's a post-NCAA world, Aggies. The big fish is gonna eat. And Texas/Oklahoma is pretty damn tasty..
 
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IndianaVol said:
I doubt it...would kill the Big 12.
Also, doesn't Texas have the 'Longhorn Network' deal with ESPN/ABC - sure they would lose money if they walked out of that early.

But let's say for G&G this is true and it happens.
Do we realign the divisions?
If not, does Texas go to the West and OK go to the East?
Seems pretty far to travel for USCe to go to play OK every other year...
If so, do we keep the traditional E/W rivalries like TSIO?
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Guessing, IF this is true, they already looked at that. Probably roll it into the SEC Network somehow.
 
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So if the SEC is truly looking to be a 20 team power conference, who would be the other additions besides Oklahoma and Texas? I'm thinking we would try to raid the ACC and go after Clemson, Florida State and either North Carolina or Georgia Tech. Maybe add Oklahoma State in the west.

With two 10 team divisions, you could do an (almost) all SEC schedule. You'd have your 9 division opponents along with 1 rotating west opponent and 1 permanent west opponent along with 1 OOC game. I say we put stop to playing FCS level opponents too. The 1 OOC opponent MUST be an FBS opponent.

West:
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
LSU
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M

East:

Clemson
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Kentucky
Mizzou
South Carolina
North Carolina/Georgia Tech
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
 
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Voltopia said:
"We don't want Texas or Oklahoma." Yes, well, I'm not sure many of us wanted Texas A&M or Missouri but here we are, aren't we?

It's a post-NCAA world, Aggies. The big fish is gonna eat. And Texas/Oklahoma is pretty damn tasty..
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Mizzou and aTm are not OU and Texas. This is a massive coup that will start a massive domino effect across the college sports landscape.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
So if the SEC is truly looking to be a 20 team power conference, who would be the other additions besides Oklahoma and Texas? I'm thinking we would try to raid the ACC and go after Clemson, Florida State and either North Carolina or Georgia Tech. Maybe add Oklahoma State in the west.

With two 10 team divisions, you could do an (almost) all SEC schedule. You'd have your 9 division opponents along with 1 rotating west opponent and 1 permanent west opponent along with 1 OOC game. I say we put stop to playing FCS level opponents too. The 1 OOC opponent MUST be an FBS opponent.

West:
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
LSU
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M

East:

Clemson
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Kentucky
Mizzou
South Carolina
North Carolina/Georgia Tech
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
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You add a Virginia or a North Carolina school(s) to add value to the TV footprint . I don’t think Clemson or FSU does that. Texas is probably the only school you add where you already have a school in state.
 
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What if this is covid related? Money is gonna get tough . THERE is gonna be another lock down .What if these schools know the only way to survive is the SEC..
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
GT would be a good add though for the Atlanta market.
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I disagree. Atlanta is an SEC town already. I don’t think Tech brings enough eyeballs to the screen to give them a piece of the pie. UNC would be the crown jewel outside of Texas, followed by Virginia Tech, Virginia IMO

Edit: Texas, Notre Dame and then UNC.
 
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OU and Texas are just trying to pull a LeBron: "Our conference isn't any good so we want to come join the greatest conference and be able to claim, we helped make it great. The SEC doesn't need them, shouldn't want them."
 
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I'd like to see the LHN change into SEC Classic. Just air replays of great games from years past. It could also serve as another alternate channel for games during the season.

And no Finebaum.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
So if the SEC is truly looking to be a 20 team power conference, who would be the other additions besides Oklahoma and Texas? I'm thinking we would try to raid the ACC and go after Clemson, Florida State and either North Carolina or Georgia Tech. Maybe add Oklahoma State in the west.

With two 10 team divisions, you could do an (almost) all SEC schedule. You'd have your 9 division opponents along with 1 rotating west opponent and 1 permanent west opponent along with 1 OOC game. I say we put stop to playing FCS level opponents too. The 1 OOC opponent MUST be an FBS opponent.

West:
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
LSU
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M

East:

Clemson
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Kentucky
Mizzou
South Carolina
North Carolina/Georgia Tech
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
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No one is leaving the ACC until at least 2036.
 
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ksgovols said:
Anybody else think A&M leaked this during SEC media days as a preemptive strike? Oklahoma would have a shot maybe, but Texas would never get in.
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This wouldn't have gotten leaked if it wasn't a done deal.
 
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hog88 said:
This wouldn't have gotten leaked if it wasn't a done deal.
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May be. Texas A&M AD the only athletic director in Hoover this week. And there hasn't been a vote to make it 'done' yet.
Still has to get through Texas politics and the SEC AD's with P5 rivals not in the SEC in their state like Florida, South Carolina, Georgia, Kentucky and Texas A&M. Only 4 of those schools have to vote no to shut it down. And Mizzou is in their boat as well.

Sanky has a hell of a sales pitch to deliver to keep the current members happy. More $$$ and power may be enough to sway some of them, but 75% agreement among member schools is a tall order.
 
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ksgovols said:
May be. Texas A&M AD the only athletic director in Hoover this week. And there hasn't been a vote to make it 'done' yet.
Still has to get through Texas politics and the SEC AD's with P5 rivals not in the SEC in their state like Florida, South Carolina, Georgia, Kentucky and Texas A&M. Only 4 of those schools have to vote no to shut it down. And Mizzou is in their boat as well.

Sanky has a hell of a sales pitch to deliver to keep the current members happy. More $$$ and power may be enough to sway some of them, but 75% agreement among member schools is a tall order.
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School Presidents will vote, not the ADs and there's really only 1 thing those guys care about.
 
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hog88 said:
School Presidents will vote, not the ADs and there's really only 1 thing those guys care about.
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Academics? Maybe the gentlemen's agreement gets pushed to the wayside, but I think this is a harder sell or Sanky would have announced the new additions at the beginning of media days. A&M called his bluff I believe. Maybe it happens, but I don't think it's a done deal by a long shot.
 
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I like the addition of Oklahoma, but not Texas. I’d rather get a team like UNC or Virginia Tech.
 
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ksgovols said:
Academics? Maybe the gentlemen's agreement gets pushed to the wayside, but I think this is a harder sell or Sanky would have announced the new additions at the beginning of media days. A&M called his bluff I believe. Maybe it happens, but I don't think it's a done deal by a long shot.
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Money and the addition of The Steers and OK will bring it in truck loads.
 
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TrueOrange said:
A&M has never really been discussed as being part of that agreement. The rest comes from rumors prior to the SEC’s expansion/addition to a 13th team. But up until today’s expansion story, there’s really not been much to suggest they offered A&M a place in that agreement.
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All the whining about 2 teams in a state has never made sense to me. The metros of Houston, Miami, Tampa, Dallas, and San Antonio all have more peole than the entire state of MS, yet somehow they survive while having two SEC schools in the state. If TN, MS, and AL can have two teams in the state, then I'm positive that Texas and Florida could handle it. Georgia and South Carolina would be fine as well, but those are a bit less egregious.
 
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