Official Jon Gruden Thread XXVIII

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TheFlash1971 said:
CarbonVol same here. Just get tired of people feeding people a bunch of boulderdash. Some people actually believe some of this nonsense. Spewing out some long drawn out regurgitation of lies . GRUDEN is not coming to Tennessee wake up people and put down the crack pipes.
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TheFlash1971 said:
John harbaugh maybe, but Gruden no way.
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Talk to yourself often?
 
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VolzMan53 said:
given a thought to what screen name you plan on using when this account is gone :blink:
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Let’s just hide from an opposing opinion. That’s real cowardly. I made a thread about some questions I had to wether Gruden would be a good college coach. Really just want some other opinions. Not hating on the man. They merged the thread so blame your mods.
 
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TheFlash1971 said:
CarbonVol same here. Just get tired of people feeding people a bunch of boulderdash. Some people actually believe some of this nonsense. Spewing out some long drawn out regurgitation of lies . GRUDEN is not coming to Tennessee wake up people and put down the crack pipes.
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You know what? Get out. No one forced you to come in this thread and talk crap. Caling people liars and crack heads? You haven’t made enough friends in here to talk like that and expect to get some good discussion. Because at the end of the day, your opinion doesn’t mean anything to anyone in here and your attempt to be valid was lost the moment you attempted to use a word like boulderdash. Get out.
 
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CarbonVol said:
Oh okay so you 100% know he’s coming?


You also 100% know he will be a good college coach that will return is the the elite program we are?

I’m willing to take that wager either way. We can do offshore betting if you’d like?
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Nothing is guaranteed... him being coach, him succeeding if he does come or the opposite... him not coming, he not succeed.

I do not have a problem if you would rather us hire a current college coach or one like Saban who had done it recent to taking job, but no need to reply with bet statement.

I will say this, he should be able to recruit himself and get Tn great exposure, and it shows Tn is trying hard at the very least. Tn will get back the money too, on merchandise sales with Gruden on it and hype. So imo, Gruden, Patterson, Chip would be my choices not getting into percentage chance they would come argument though.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Oh, okay. Let's give you an explanation then, Mickey.

We'll go through my post a little bit at a time. I'll even bold the important items you missed.



That's the start of the post. To get folks attention. "Here's something that's been on my mind." Use of an ellipsis to indicate an unfinished thought which I expand on here:



Ignored that question did you?



And missed the very important IF WE ARE TO BELIEVE part of that since it's circumstantial at best since it has not been confirmed by anyone he actually WAS here.

And still hanging on that earlier question of "how many trips has he made before" portion of the post.



An important evidentiary portion and predication of the next paragraph. But a question is still implied and evidence to the contrary might have been seen before now if he was in Knoxville before this year.



Yes, this is true and well documented. Now, here's where it might get a bit tricky if you aren't paying attention. And you weren't...

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See that important word "rumors"? That's kinda important. Gives the entire paragraph a chance for the lawyers in here to scream "Objection! Hearsay!" Rumors are just that. And a very important predication that the next part is also circumstantial, but important to the overall impact of the post.



Now, do you see where the post is still going on rumors? Specifically the "if we are to believe" portion up above?



Rumors of them buying a house in an affluent area. If we are to believe he made a trip last week. All adding up to the whole concept of "smoke, but no fire."

And adding the last portion about buying the son a house in a high dollar area is just common sense.

And we wrap up with:



Oh, the lowly two letter word "IF" arises again. IF it turned out he was in K-town, that would point to good things. IF, IF, IF. And the smoke comment being a metaphor for the rumors and whispered conversations that Gruden was there.

TL;DR version:

Look at the post for the "if" and circumstantial evidence and GTFO.
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Nice breakdown
 
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Remy said:
Just for snicks and giggles, have you considered one's position in court if an MOU was actually signed for a position that had yet to be vacated or for which a contract was already in force and being executed? To make it easy, CBJ would have a slam dunk that he was undermined, UTAD had violated his contract for this season the minute they entered into negotiations much less signed an MOU for a position, contributing to the poor season over which they were now trying to dismiss him!! It would be a slam dunk for CBJ and perhaps with treble damages.

Just do the slightest practical reality steps you would use in your professional lives and apply it here. Once you do you can rapidly separate the soons from the loons IMO.
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What happens to your theory if the buyout for Butch, that the media reports as agreed upon, contains a clause allowing UT to negotiate an MOU with the incoming coach?
 
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volnpowell said:
Nothing is guaranteed... him being coach, him succeeding if he does come or the opposite... him not coming, he not succeed.

I do not have a problem if you would rather us hire a current college coach or one like Saban who had done it recent to taking job, but no need to reply with bet statement.

I will say this, he should be able to recruit himself and get Tn great exposure, and it shows Tn is trying hard at the very least. Tn will get back the money too, on merchandise sales with Gruden on it and hype. So imo, Gruden, Patterson, Chip would be my choices not getting into percentage chance they would come argument though.
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I think he will be a heck of a recruiter for the first year or so on accident that’s for sure. Everyone knows who he is. Especially the kids parents who are fundamental in their child’s college choices.

Merch and tickets would fly off the shelf. I bet year 1 we would break season ticket sales.
 
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sptnut said:
Single ;)
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Now, back to this.

Perhaps you are single because you haven't met a real man yet and the other little boys just weren't good enough to capture your attention.

And I see SFD already has been doing that "women in the bathroom talking" thing with you, so there you go.
 
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CarbonVol said:
Why because someone doesn’t agree with you? Let’s just hide from opposition. Snowflake. Pathetic.
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Who are you calling a snowflake? You’re apparently so fragile that the opinions of people smarter than you makes more sense than the “facts” you’re getting elsewhere in life. So get out. This is for Gruden people only. I’m sure there’s a Scott Satterfield thread you can go get behind and appear smart in.
 
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TheFlash1971 said:
CarbonVol same here. Just get tired of people feeding people a bunch of boulderdash. Some people actually believe some of this nonsense. Spewing out some long drawn out regurgitation of lies . GRUDEN is not coming to Tennessee wake up people and put down the crack pipes.
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Do you also take the “Only YOU can prevent forest fires!” literally too?

If you are tired of reading the “boulderdash”, then stop coming into the thread.
 
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barrylee said:
I'm going to try this one more time and it's not aimed at just u. As long as someone responds to these clowns, they will continue to show up. Please put them on ignore while this thread is happening.

It will take all the fun out of posting for them..jmo
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Well said!
 
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CarbonVol said:
I need to find that interview. That would be interesting to watch. Do you not think though that he’d rather prove the NFL crowd wrong since that’s kind of where his failure was? Winning a SB then downhill from there. Maybe college is a better path for him back to the NFL but I think and pro team would take him now.
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I honestly believe because it’s him we are talking about ( chuckie) that he believes he could do both and be successful at either . He has more control in college ithan in pros and has been there done that in pros. The 10 million dollar question that we all want the answer to is does he want to be the one that brings Tennessee back to being a serious contender .
 
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butchna said:
Don’t care if you’re pleased...prolly better when you’re not. :)
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Why would you pay somebody 9 million a yr who has never coached in college before. Jim harbaugh coached at San Diego St, and Stanford before he went to the NFL. It did work for Pete Carroll although he was defensive cordinator for NC State before he went to the NFL. Gruden was never a cordinator or coach in college. Would he be successful nobody knows. But if your Currie are you going to throw 9 million dollars a year at him. That is crazy. By the way charlie weiss is still cashing checks from ND, after three superbowl rings. What im saying is that if your Currie that is a career gamble like none other.
 
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CarbonVol said:
He’s making nearly the same at ESPN if not CBS, FOX, or any of the others would meet his demands I’m sure. Hell I’d take a pay cut for a much easier gig than come coach at UT
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We aren't trying to hire you. Doesn't matter what you would do, only matters what Gruden wants to do. I haven't talked to him so I don't know what that is. I'm betting you haven't talked to him either.
 
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We need Billy Jack in here.

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Grand Vol said:
Oh, okay. Let's give you an explanation then, Mickey.

We'll go through my post a little bit at a time. I'll even bold the important items you missed.



That's the start of the post. To get folks attention. "Here's something that's been on my mind." Use of an ellipsis to indicate an unfinished thought which I expand on here:



Ignored that question did you?



And missed the very important IF WE ARE TO BELIEVE part of that since it's circumstantial at best since it has not been confirmed by anyone he actually WAS here.

And still hanging on that earlier question of "how many trips has he made before" portion of the post.



An important evidentiary portion and predication of the next paragraph. But a question is still implied and evidence to the contrary might have been seen before now if he was in Knoxville before this year.



Yes, this is true and well documented. Now, here's where it might get a bit tricky if you aren't paying attention. And you weren't...

(note another ellipsis used there)



See that important word "rumors"? That's kinda important. Gives the entire paragraph a chance for the lawyers in here to scream "Objection! Hearsay!" Rumors are just that. And a very important predication that the next part is also circumstantial, but important to the overall impact of the post.



Now, do you see where the post is still going on rumors? Specifically the "if we are to believe" portion up above?



Rumors of them buying a house in an affluent area. If we are to believe he made a trip last week. All adding up to the whole concept of "smoke, but no fire."

And adding the last portion about buying the son a house in a high dollar area is just common sense.

And we wrap up with:



Oh, the lowly two letter word "IF" arises again. IF it turned out he was in K-town, that would point to good things. IF, IF, IF. And the smoke comment being a metaphor for the rumors and whispered conversations that Gruden was there.

TL;DR version:

Look at the post for the "if" and circumstantial evidence and GTFO.
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