Official Jon Gruden Thread XXVI

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Exhibit A. The Cleveland Browns.

Is anything else needed?

Well, their brilliance hasn't led to any improvements, that much is obvious. If anything, the Browns have slidden further into the gutter since the Haslams took ownership.
 
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after all this is over and Gruden is our coach, if Beav would come out and write a book about all the behind the scene stuff during the time he graced us with his presence, I would buy it.
 
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I'm excited because it is confirmed that he/she is an actual professional.

Ergen. Won't. Lose.

I agree and am very excited as well! If MIT is a PR plant from the booster/Ergen camp then that is even more proof that all of the bases have been covered. Pressure from all sides. You can't get more surrounded than surrounded...lol
 
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No, but based on your posts I'm pretty sure I have a better read on politics.

Anyway, he's been a mayor and a governor. And not very inspiring or effective at either.

He turned down a Senate run. Which he might have had a chance at. What's left? US President? Lol.


Haslam has consistently been one of the most popular governors in country according to approval polls. Through his entire career at that. But yes, your read of politics is spot on and better than the ignorant masses.
 
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He's got a crazy amount of very prime spectrum that the wireless companies would love to have and no announced plans for using it. Keeps buying more too. Lots of speculation about what he's going to do. Yes, it's worth major $.

smart man!
 
Haslam net worth estimated $3.6 billion. Ergen net worth at $14.6 billion...

And yet when it came to UT... Ergen and crew lost to Haslam last time imho.... I TRULY HOPE I AM WRONG and the 85% beat the Haslams and run them completely out of anything related to UT

Just not holding my breath
 
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I'm really glad you are witnessing this with me.

Can you do some sleuthing? In light of Atlanta Vol's and other posts earlier today, I've heard that Spurrier reached out to Stoops yesterday about the Florida job and that Stoops has not returned his call?

The only 3 "wow" hires I could think of were: Gruden, Stoops, or Kelly.... and Kelly as the show cause issue.
 
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I can guess what MIT means. I will tell you what I meant.

I think MIT's nugget means that Ergen is heading up the coalition of boosters who are not only attempting to get Gruden to the Hill, but also to reduce or shift the balance of booster power away from the Haslams.

One of the very first questions I asked right after MIT came on this board, was about something he said about specific unidentified boosters who were at odds with Currie, but were working to ensure that Gruden came to UT. I asked MIT at that point to identify who the leading booster was. He didn't respond. He appears with this latest nugget to have identified Ergen as the Guy.

Which makes sense, he represents a younger generation of money than Big Jim, and he absolutely has the money to go head to head in a power struggle, if he has to.

This hasn't all been about getting Gruden here. There have always been multiple agendas. Anyone who has read MIT carefully could see that. And I'm not saying multiple agendas are bad, just that we should be aware that they exist, and MIT isn't just here to give everyone their dose of internet Xanex. :)

Worth repeating.
 
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If this is true, he's been planning this a long time. The more I hear about him, the more I would never want to be on the opposite side of a negotiation with him.

I'd almost bet that Haslam doesn't even know about this part. The Beav and bubba were part of an insurance plan.
 
And yet when it came to UT... Ergen and crew lost to Haslam last time imho.... I TRULY HOPE I AM WRONG and the 85% beat the Haslams and run them completely out of anything related to UT

Just not holding my breath

If he's smart, he'll figure what he did wrong last time and make sure it doesn't happen again!
 
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Haslam has consistently been one of the most popular governors in country according to approval polls. Through his entire career at that. But yes, your read of politics is spot on and better than the ignorant masses.

Popular doesn't equal effective. Anyway, if he's so popular why didn't he run for senate?

P.S. at any rate he's not a factor in the current discussion.
 
Ergen has something to offer that any university in the country would love to have. I can't see how UT could even think of passing it up. This is a win, win for everyone. I guess we will see if they are more worried about the UT prospering or more worried about ego and control.
 
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If I recall correctly, the haslams went after gruden during the last coaching search. Not sure why all of the sudden the haslam family is under fire this go around. They do many great things for the University.
 
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I agree and am very excited as well! If MIT is a PR plant from the booster/Ergen camp then that is even more proof that all of the bases have been covered. Pressure from all sides. You can't get more surrounded than surrounded...lol

Don't show up to a gun fight with a knife.
 
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Then she would align herself with the side that will matter in a few year's time. That's new money and younger blood.


Seems like she maybe has already started.. Have to wonder if that's her carrot. Support us and we'll support you against Bill when the job comes open.
 
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And yet when it came to UT... Ergen and crew lost to Haslam last time imho.... I TRULY HOPE I AM WRONG and the 85% beat the Haslams and run them completely out of anything related to UT

Just not holding my breath but moving my meter to 50%

fyp :)
 
Literally no concrete evidence of any kind of internal "power struggle" or that Haslam is/was/will be anti-Gruden. That family has donated countless millions of dollars to the university and athletic department. Kind of ****ty to turn on someone like that because of some very vague, unsubstantiated, and untrustworthy internet rumors.

Log off of VN Haslam and put your ego to the side.
 
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