Official Jon Gruden Thread XXVI

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Vol-in-Bham said:
Sorry this is long, but hey I broke it up and it isn't one giant paragraph.

Something I just realized, which has probably been in one of the 10,000 posts in these threads...

If a coach is fired/announced as not returning, multiple things can start happening:
1. Said coach can be rumored/linked to other programs
2. Current coaching staff can be rumored/linked to other programs
3. Interested coaches can be linked to the opening/upcoming opening

By not firing CBJ, nor announcing he is not returning, you prevent those 3 things from happening. None of those are happening. There is no rumor mill, nothing on the major sites from what I can tell.

No coach nor their agent is going to leak to their media friends that they have interest in the UT job when there isn't an official opening. It's an unwritten rule of coaching. You don't pursue someone else's job while they're still in it. It's a bad look. Likewise, it would seem unwise for the current staff's agents to leak to their media friends (in targeted other markets where they'd like to land) that they are going to be available... because they aren't currently available. And it's the middle of the season. Distraction for your program and the one you want to land at.

Now, onto interim coaches. I don't know how rare it is, but I'd bet sometimes you take the interim job in hopes of earning the full-time gig. Depends on a lot of factors, why the head coach is being fired. For example: personal misconduct vs. the whole program being a dumpster fire.

If the whole program is a dumpster fire, it's unlikely even if you do an amazing job, that you get the full-time gig. AD most likely wants to clean house anyways.

Of course another reason to not take the interim job would be if you know there is no way you're getting the job... because it's already filled. So why take on the added stress, the (minor) black marks on your resume, etc.?

I just keep coming back to either Currie is a genius and has this on lockdown or we are literally the most dysfunctional university on the planet. Here's to hoping it is the former...
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I am a believer that it is both
 
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MIT_Beaver said:
It is major league players competing against a high school team. Many of the boosters earned their money and influence in the free market. They have decades of experience putting together deals, hiring MBB consultants to develop plans, and applying strategic pressure to ensure certain outcomes.

The AA/AD on the other hand do not hire elite people to look at deals, love to hang around yes men, and run from obstacles rather than try to solve them.

It is not a fair fight.
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And that is why my degree is in business administration
 
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Vol-in-Bham said:
Sorry this is long, but hey I broke it up and it isn't one giant paragraph.

Something I just realized, which has probably been in one of the 10,000 posts in these threads...

If a coach is fired/announced as not returning, multiple things can start happening:
1. Said coach can be rumored/linked to other programs
2. Current coaching staff can be rumored/linked to other programs
3. Interested coaches can be linked to the opening/upcoming opening

By not firing CBJ, nor announcing he is not returning, you prevent those 3 things from happening. None of those are happening. There is no rumor mill, nothing on the major sites from what I can tell.

No coach nor their agent is going to leak to their media friends that they have interest in the UT job when there isn't an official opening. It's an unwritten rule of coaching. You don't pursue someone else's job while they're still in it. It's a bad look. Likewise, it would seem unwise for the current staff's agents to leak to their media friends (in targeted other markets where they'd like to land) that they are going to be available... because they aren't currently available. And it's the middle of the season. Distraction for your program and the one you want to land at.

Now, onto interim coaches. I don't know how rare it is, but I'd bet sometimes you take the interim job in hopes of earning the full-time gig. Depends on a lot of factors, why the head coach is being fired. For example: personal misconduct vs. the whole program being a dumpster fire.

If the whole program is a dumpster fire, it's unlikely even if you do an amazing job, that you get the full-time gig. AD most likely wants to clean house anyways.

Of course another reason to not take the interim job would be if you know there is no way you're getting the job... because it's already filled. So why take on the added stress, the (minor) black marks on your resume, etc.?

I just keep coming back to either Currie is a genius and has this on lockdown or we are literally the most dysfunctional university on the planet. Here's to hoping it is the former...
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Yes. These things have been mentioned. However, your ability to conceptualize it all and spell it out clearly means that our brainwashing of you is complete! :)
 
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preacherwebb said:
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Not disputing - just curious. How do we know that Butch and staff have not been recruiting for the last month?

Thanks for taking my call, I?ll hang up and listen.


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Per Hyams again today....Currie not looking to remove Butch, hopes he wins out and he's able to keep him at UT.

Scary, because Hyams gets straight AD party line information. At least that information they want spread around.
 
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You know what happens to billionaire boosters who don't get there way? They pick up all their toys and leave the sandbox. Boosters aren't boosters very long if they don't get their way. I'm just saying.....
 
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Vol-in-Bham said:
Sorry this is long, but hey I broke it up and it isn't one giant paragraph.

Something I just realized, which has probably been in one of the 10,000 posts in these threads...

If a coach is fired/announced as not returning, multiple things can start happening:
1. Said coach can be rumored/linked to other programs
2. Current coaching staff can be rumored/linked to other programs
3. Interested coaches can be linked to the opening/upcoming opening

By not firing CBJ, nor announcing he is not returning, you prevent those 3 things from happening. None of those are happening. There is no rumor mill, nothing on the major sites from what I can tell.

No coach nor their agent is going to leak to their media friends that they have interest in the UT job when there isn't an official opening. It's an unwritten rule of coaching. You don't pursue someone else's job while they're still in it. It's a bad look. Likewise, it would seem unwise for the current staff's agents to leak to their media friends (in targeted other markets where they'd like to land) that they are going to be available... because they aren't currently available. And it's the middle of the season. Distraction for your program and the one you want to land at.

Now, onto interim coaches. I don't know how rare it is, but I'd bet sometimes you take the interim job in hopes of earning the full-time gig. Depends on a lot of factors, why the head coach is being fired. For example: personal misconduct vs. the whole program being a dumpster fire.

If the whole program is a dumpster fire, it's unlikely even if you do an amazing job, that you get the full-time gig. AD most likely wants to clean house anyways.

Of course another reason to not take the interim job would be if you know there is no way you're getting the job... because it's already filled. So why take on the added stress, the (minor) black marks on your resume, etc.?

I just keep coming back to either Currie is a genius and has this on lockdown or we are literally the most dysfunctional university on the planet. Here's to hoping it is the former...
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We have a winner!!! Very well stated too.

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VolArmy74 said:
Per Hyams again today....Currie not looking to remove Butch, hopes he wins out and he's able to keep him at UT.

Scary, because Hyams gets straight AD party line information. At least that information they want spread around.
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"We wanted to keep Butch, but unfortunately we were forced to make a decision today..."
 
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Hawkpilot said:
Quick analogy because I love how all this interlaces with my profession..I swear I talk Army more on here than anywhere else. Not sure if that's good or bad

When I'm planning a flight of aircraft to land somewhere high, hot, heavy, hostile, and dark, there are a ton of variables to solve premission, enroute, and landing to the LZ.

Time will VERY rarely cancel a mission. You can push it left or right, or change the route to get there. The route seldom matters as long as it avoids enemy detection and gets you to the right spot. The most important part of any flight...Landing. Safely getting everyone back on the ground and in the right spot to continue the next phase of the mission.

I just thought I'd share. May help explain my addiction to the content as much as the outcome. It's the journey you have to enjoy as much as getting there.
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Agreed, on both fronts...
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Per Hyams again today....Currie not looking to remove Butch, hopes he wins out and he's able to keep him at UT.

Scary, because Hyams gets straight AD party line information. At least that information they want spread around.
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This combined with Davis saying "hostile work environment" is why he is leaving. If Davis thought Jones was for sure gone why wouldn't he stay unless he also believes Currie is part of that "hostile environment"?
 
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