Official Jon Gruden Thread XX

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For all those that say Gruden isn't qualified... then Who's Pete Carroll???

By your standards he would have never been qualified. Never recruited... never was a head coach at the college level... fired by two NFL teams... then went to USC... won two national championships... went to a couple Superbowls... won one.

Actually ... Bill Belichick, Tony Dungy, Tom Coughlin, and Mike Holmgren, all won Superbowls and have similar being fired stories.

Only negative to Carroll was the NCAA Heat he brought down on USC... I'm sure that can be avoided with the right staff surrounding the right coach.

So Gruden may be qualified and we just don't know it... lots thought Butch couldn't recruit in the SEC... So it can happen. I'd say at the end of the day chances are Gruden can get the job done if he wants the job.

I'm riding the Gruden train till the end 🙂
 
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05_never_again said:
...so what happened? Everybody forgets this guy was the definition of mediocre after the SB and was eventually fired by Tampa. He didn't even win another single playoff game after that SB run.
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Please name another Super Bowl winning NFL head coach that went to the college ranks and failed...I'll wait. No coach is a guaranteed sure thing but the odds are in Gruden's favor.
 
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05_never_again said:
...so what happened? Everybody forgets this guy was the definition of mediocre after the SB and was eventually fired by Tampa. He didn't even win another single playoff game after that SB run.
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I was in Tampa when that happened. The Glaser's who own the Bucs, Bought ManU soccer team. They immediately went cheap on the Bucs gutting the team. Lost Sapp, Rice, Lynch,K. Johnson, McCardell and other key players. Hell, Gurden went into one season having to play a rookie 7th round pick from Tulsa at QB. That is why his record went to crap in TB.

CH_V
 
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05_never_again said:
...so what happened? Everybody forgets this guy was the definition of mediocre after the SB and was eventually fired by Tampa. He didn't even win another single playoff game after that SB run.
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Year 1: Super Bowl
Year 2: Disagreements with GM they go 7-9, no 1st round pick because of Gruen's move to Tampa.
Year 3: New GM releases Sapp and Lynch, signs Charlie Garner who goes on IR after 3 games and never plays again, they go 5-11, 8 losses by 7 or less.
Year 4: Start season 5-1, starting QB Brian Griese gets injured for rest of season, finish 11-5, lose in Wild Card round.
Year 5: Lose 8 starters for season, including QB, back up QB, RB, best WR, and best defensive player. 4-12
Year 6: Bring in Garcia, go 9-7, loses to super bowl champs in playoffs.
Year 7: Start season 9-3, Monte Kiffin announces he's leaving at the end of season to go where? Lose last 4 games and miss playoffs.

In the end I think he was a little unlucky.
 
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KB5252 said:
I can't argue there. That staff seemed disengaged for much of the game.
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Butch knows he's out and he has for a while. Him and Currie are in a p**sing contest right now over $$$ and Vol fans are the ones suffering. If TN competes against bama, it'll be because the players wanted to win. Butch is going through the motions.
 
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TN-POSSUM said:
Butch knows he's out and he has for a while. Him and Currie are in a p**sing contest right now over $$$ and Vol fans are the ones suffering. If TN competes against bama, it'll be because the players wanted to win. Butch is going through the motions.
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He's playing with fire, those volwalks could turn into gauntlets.
 
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CopperHead_Vol said:
I was in Tampa when that happened. The Glaser's who own the Bucs, Bought ManU soccer team. They immediately went cheap on the Bucs gutting the team. Lost Sapp, Rice, Lynch,K. Johnson, McCardell and other key players. Hell, Gurden went into one season having to play a rookie 7th round pick from Tulsa at QB. That is why his record went to crap in TB.

CH_V
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Give em 6 CH_V
 
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TN-POSSUM said:
Butch knows he's out and he has for a while. Him and Currie are in a p**sing contest right now over $$$ and Vol fans are the ones suffering. If TN competes against bama, it'll be because the players wanted to win. Butch is going through the motions.
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No they aren't.
 
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05_never_again said:
A guy the fanbase will be underwhelmed with is almost certainly going to be hired. There are no "home run hires" and Tennessee, while a good job, is not the job most Tennessee fans think it is.

The biggest name coach Tennessee could realistically hire is probably Bobby Petrino, although his baggage will likely scare the admin away. If not Petrino, the next biggest guys just in terms of name recognition are probably Justin Fuente and Brent Venables.

IMO, the actual coach hired will be someone like Chad Morris, Mike MacIntyre, or Mike Norvell.
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Go away, we don't feel the need to convince you and you sure aren't going to change our opinion.

Regardless of what you tbink.. this thread isn't for debating Grudens qualifications or history. It's for hanging out and waiting on nuggets of information.

You want to debate Gruden and what his hire would mean? Go start your own thread.
 
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OrangePill said:
Sure, we're putting out **** on-field, but we're still the most profitable AD in the country and are in the SEC. Top-30 job is reasonable.

It's not like I'm saying Tennessee is a top-10 job like some people here do.
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UT is top 10 with the right coach. Most profitable, top 5 stadium, unrivaled rabit fan base (we sent bricks to Butch as we tried to buy in to him), one of only 2 schools with Stadiums and Campus off a major river, big money, SEC, Traditional powerhouse. Come on...
 
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UTVolinExile said:
Shooting straight. Everything you said in your post was accurate except that the pissing contest is over, Currie won. Butch is bought out.
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That's not how this works. His buyout is already set in stone the moment he signed an extension. There was no debate, negotiation, or anything of the sort.

He was always going to get 100% of his buyout.
 
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UTVolinExile said:
Shooting straight. Everything you said in your post was accurate except that the pissing contest is over, Currie won. Butch is bought out.
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I sincerely hope that is true. So much crazy info out there hard to know who and what parts to believe.
 
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