Official Jon Gruden Thread XVII

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I had 3 bits of info flow my way, Grumor #1 is solid. #2 should be taken with a grain of Salt. #3 should be pretty easy to verify this afternoon. Due to contractual obligations I'm only permitted to post Grumor on twitter, but they should be incredibly easy to find using #Grumor
 
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steve328 said:
Just a fan here but I think one of his biggest problems has been in hiring assistants and possibly micromanaging. Had several chances to upgrade the offensive staff but apparently hired his buds instead of getting qualified assistants. That and continually trying to run a pro style quarterback in a dual threat offense. I've just never figured that one out.

I do appreciate what Butch did to get the program back on its feet though. I don't hate him, but his time has come to an end.
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My sentiments as well Steve :good!::good!:
 
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NorCalVol67 said:
I wanted Gruden 5 years ago, hell, I wanted him 8 years ago. I was not around for the OG threads, but if indeed UT backed away from him 5 years ago I am pissed. How good would Year 5 of Gruden look right now.
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There are two scenarios, depending on who you trust..

1. Gruden made ridiculous demands, UT meet them and then he still declined

2. Gruden made his demands and UT balked at the control issue

Honestly I am unsure which is correct, but am assured we will make a real offer this time, less assured that He will accept..... Hopeful is the best term for my view
 
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Coastypop said:
My sentiments as well Steve :good!::good!:
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Seconded.

I can look back and see there are some positive qualities from both Dooley and Jones. Dooley, for all his worthless on field performances, ran a fairly clean program. Provided nobody of note came to UT during his time lol, but we never worried about the NCAA snooping around.

Lyle brought us out of the basement Dooley had us trapped in, recruited lights out for the most part, and brought in good talent worthy of the Tennessee brand. Developing said talent is another matter entirely, but the talent is there. And helped fix the academic side of things. But is stuck in that 7-9 win zone at the moment.

But now it's time to take the next logical step in that process to developing talent into annual competitors. Is Gruden and whatever staff he would bring those guys? I'd tend to think he has an in depth knowledge of what the NFL is looking for as well as an offensive playbook that's pretty thick.

We'll see.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Seconded.

I can look back and see there are some positive qualities from both Dooley and Jones. Dooley, for all his worthless on field performances, ran a fairly clean program. Provided nobody of note came to UT during his time lol, but we never worried about the NCAA snooping around.

Lyle brought us out of the basement Dooley had us trapped in, recruited lights out for the most part, and brought in good talent worthy of the Tennessee brand. Developing said talent is another matter entirely, but the talent is there. And helped fix the academic side of things. But is stuck in that 7-9 win zone at the moment.

But now it's time to take the next logical step in that process to developing talent into annual competitors. Is Gruden and whatever staff he would bring those guys? I'd tend to think he has an in depth knowledge of what the NFL is looking for as well as an offensive playbook that's pretty thick.

We'll see.
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Didn't about 8 of Dooleys players commit sexual assault?
 
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Grand Vol said:
Seconded.

I can look back and see there are some positive qualities from both Dooley and Jones. Dooley, for all his worthless on field performances, ran a fairly clean program. Provided nobody of note came to UT during his time lol, but we never worried about the NCAA snooping around.

Lyle brought us out of the basement Dooley had us trapped in, recruited lights out for the most part, and brought in good talent worthy of the Tennessee brand. Developing said talent is another matter entirely, but the talent is there. And helped fix the academic side of things. But is stuck in that 7-9 win zone at the moment.

But now it's time to take the next logical step in that process to developing talent into annual competitors. Is Gruden and whatever staff he would bring those guys? I'd tend to think he has an in depth knowledge of what the NFL is looking for as well as an offensive playbook that's pretty thick.

We'll see.
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Butch's talent stock is waning. The way he squandered the legacies is criminal.
 
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RonJovi said:
I had 3 bits of info flow my way, Grumor #1 is solid. #2 should be taken with a grain of Salt. #3 should be pretty easy to verify this afternoon. Due to contractual obligations I'm only permitted to post Grumor on twitter, but they should be incredibly easy to find using #Grumor
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Sup RonJovi! :hi:
 
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Grand Vol said:
Seconded.

I can look back and see there are some positive qualities from both Dooley and Jones. Dooley, for all his worthless on field performances, ran a fairly clean program. Provided nobody of note came to UT during his time lol, but we never worried about the NCAA snooping around.

Lyle brought us out of the basement Dooley had us trapped in, recruited lights out for the most part, and brought in good talent worthy of the Tennessee brand. Developing said talent is another matter entirely, but the talent is there. And helped fix the academic side of things. But is stuck in that 7-9 win zone at the moment.

But now it's time to take the next logical step in that process to developing talent into annual competitors. Is Gruden and whatever staff he would bring those guys? I'd tend to think he has an in depth knowledge of what the NFL is looking for as well as an offensive playbook that's pretty thick.

We'll see.
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I always thought that this Dooley/Butch thing could work to bring us to stability.... This next hire will be pivotal in my opinion
 
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RonJovi said:
I had 3 bits of info flow my way, Grumor #1 is solid. #2 should be taken with a grain of Salt. #3 should be pretty easy to verify this afternoon. Due to contractual obligations I'm only permitted to post Grumor on twitter, but they should be incredibly easy to find using #Grumor
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I saw the rumors but #3 is just for today right
 
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I'm thankful to Dooley for stopping short of literally bringing in a torch and burning Neyland to the ground.
Still waiting to see if Butch will actually do it.
 
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