Official Jon Gruden Thread XLVI

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Careful...because you don't just blindly agree you might find your head getting digitally chopped off...

(I agree with your post 100%)

Heh, yeah, I know.

Once the French Revolution got rolling, it took YEARS for all that boiling blood to cool down.

There are people on this board who have no idea where the movement is going (none of us do) but are just happy to be part of something that is producing results.

It is effective, so celebrate. But...effective at WHAT?

I could be wrong...there could be a coherent, logical, even smart or genius master plan to this, one that leads to a great coach for the UT football team and conditions that will allow him to succeed wildly.

But if there is, I'd like to hear a little about it.

I'm not going to be one of the mob, moving forward without reason.

Apparently, you aren't either. I salute your judgment.
 
This is beginning to remind me of the French Revolution. Particularly the phase they called The Terror.

After the revolt started, just pure energy from the masses, there was really no single person or group in charge. Just a rabble.

Then the Girondins gained a degree of control. They wanted limited power for the monarchy, and more economic and social freedom. They were like the middle class in charge.

Well, they eventually got rolled by the Jacobins. These were the masses, the lower class, only this time organized. They believed in mob power, but didn't respect any individual in the mob, just the mob as a whole. They're the ones who started chopping off heads.

Well, after a while it became evident that all the Jacobins could do was say "no" to everything they had no real way forward, so the Exiles took over. And chopped off all the heads of the leaders of the Jacobins.

And so it went. [admittedly a hugely simplistic synopsis of the French Revolution]

...

What's my point?

(1) we're a mob at this point, moving forward without a clear objective. We can say "no" to a lot of things, but "yes" to very little (other than Gruden, but there's no evidence of any concrete path that leads to his door, much less to him signing on).

(2) we're eating ourselves. The Terror was known for that. It was said that The French Revolution, at its worst, was France eating her own children. So why stop at Currie, or Davenport, or Haslam, some now want us to metaphorically chop Phil Fulmer's head off, push Blackburn aside, and go for Davis. Where does it stop?

(3) no one is in charge. There are no real leaders to this movement. Those who pretend to lead, Beav and Bubba and AV and Paul, they are apparently nothing more or less than rabble rousers, cheering from the sidelines. Haven't provided any evidence they're actually doing anything, or even explained in detail what they're supposedly attempting.

So yeah...we have a social movement. And we've apparently gotten Currie fired (which was, admittedly, a smart step).

But where the hell do we think we're going? What's the game plan, in detail? What's the end game? What's the objective?

Gruden.


And life will return to normal.
 
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Fulmer may be the hero but with his ego and 30+ yrs at the university don't believe for a second that he and Haslam haven't had plenty of good times together. Will be interesting

While I get what your saying Phil bleeds orange. It’s a step in the right direction. I don’t think he can be the permanent guy but I truly believe it’s a win for the good guys
 
[twitter]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let the outsiders have their day with us, but today is a great day for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Tennessee?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Tennessee</a> there&#39;s a shift in power going on and in the end we will be the Great <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Tennessee?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Tennessee</a> again! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Vols?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Vols</a></p>&mdash; The Vol Colonel (@TheVOLColonel) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheVOLColonel/status/936626712779030528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 1, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I have no interest whatsoever in anything this troll has to say. None.

Not criticizing you or anyone posting his tweets, just a comment.
 
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What did deer hunter originally say? Sorry guys I had to remove myself from this thread. I was down but damn it I'm back in now
 
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[twitter]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UT Chancellor Beverly Davenport has called a 4 pm press conference to announce the firing of AD John Currie. Phillip Fulmer has been discussed as a replacement but I can&#39;t confirm it is done. Davenport will meet with athletic dept. officials at 1 pm to discuss the Currie firing.</p>&mdash; Jimmy Hyams (@JimmyHyams) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimmyHyams/status/936629280229994496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 1, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Finally, 5 14 hour shifts are over and I'm just now catching up. I don't know what's happening but I'm ready to hit someone. Beav, tell me what to do. My dad has 4 tickets to section A, my uncle has 4 terrace seats and a parking pass to G10, let me know. I'm considering creating a twitter account for this. Why don't we just all pool our money and buy a bunch of billboards telling Haslam to step off or we will ruin his next campaign? Genuine question. It seems like we're winning but what will push us over the top?
 
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JP, am I incorrect in my assumption you are angry this morning? Or are you sick of the thousand different narratives?

Just curious...
 
Here comes Gruden, Here comes Gruden, right down Fulmer Way
Lane is a *****, Gruden is a Grinder, a champion who will stay
Jon's recruiting, Phil's pooting, all is merry and bright
so pray to Drunk Johnny and lardaass Phil that Gruden comes through tonight. OOOOOOOOHH.
Her comes Gruden, Here Comes Gruden, right down Peyton Pass
those who doubt the word of Revere will kiss my rosie red ass
kids will clamor, adults will get hammered, butts will fill the seats.
a great recruiter, a real straight shooter, Gruden is tough to beat.
Merry Christman Vols

Needs to viral.
 
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This is beginning to remind me of the French Revolution. Particularly the phase they called The Terror.

After the revolt started, just pure energy from the masses, there was really no single person or group in charge. Just a rabble.

Then the Girondins gained a degree of control. They wanted limited power for the monarchy, and more economic and social freedom. They were like the middle class in charge.

Well, they eventually got rolled by the Jacobins. These were the masses, the lower class, only this time organized. They believed in mob power, but didn't respect any individual in the mob, just the mob as a whole. They're the ones who started chopping off heads.

Well, after a while it became evident that all the Jacobins could do was say "no" to everything they had no real way forward, so the Exiles took over. And chopped off all the heads of the leaders of the Jacobins.

And so it went. [admittedly a hugely simplistic synopsis of the French Revolution]

...

What's my point?

(1) we're a mob at this point, moving forward without a clear objective. We can say "no" to a lot of things, but "yes" to very little (other than Gruden, but there's no evidence of any concrete path that leads to his door, much less to him signing on).

(2) we're eating ourselves. The Terror was known for that. It was said that The French Revolution, at its worst, was France eating her own children. So why stop at Currie, or Davenport, or Haslam, some now want us to metaphorically chop Phil Fulmer's head off, push Blackburn aside, and go for Davis. Where does it stop?

(3) no one is in charge. There are no real leaders to this movement. Those who pretend to lead, Beav and Bubba and AV and Paul, they are apparently nothing more or less than rabble rousers, cheering from the sidelines. Haven't provided any evidence they're actually doing anything, or even explained in detail what they're supposedly attempting.

So yeah...we have a social movement. And we've apparently gotten Currie fired (which was, admittedly, a smart step).

But where the hell do we think we're going? What's the game plan, in detail? What's the end game? What's the objective?

I don't think WE got Currie fired, sure the shouts from the masses with pitchforks didn't help him any but Currie got Currie fired. He should have had a better understanding of the fan base before offering Shiano. If it was Haslam "ordering" him to make the offer Currie should have grabbed his balls and explained that it wouldn't go over.
 
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