Official Jon Gruden Thread XLIX

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From Jesse at VQ...

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“We're hearing a million different things right now. We know that Fulmer and Davenport have left NYC, but it's unclear if they came back to Knoxville or are heading somewhere else today. There's no press conference scheduled for tonight. We'll see if anything gets done.”
 
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So Fulmer is playing poker or sabotaging a deal

Also said Fulmer told NOONE the answer. All the insiders saying no deal are as I said FOS, and know nothing.

It aint over til its over.
 
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SmokeyLives said:
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“We're hearing a million different things right now. We know that Fulmer and Davenport have left NYC, but it's unclear if they came back to Knoxville or are heading somewhere else today. There's no press conference scheduled for tonight. We'll see if anything gets done.”
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well that is just a whole lot of nothin'.
 
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SmokeyLives said:
From Jesse at VQ...

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“We're hearing a million different things right now. We know that Fulmer and Davenport have left NYC, but it's unclear if they came back to Knoxville or are heading somewhere else today. There's no press conference scheduled for tonight. We'll see if anything gets done.”
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I wonder if one of things he is hearing is Rex Ryan?
 
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Orange4Prez said:
I can respect your opinions. Thanks for having a fun debate with me. Too many thin skinned individuals in here ready to crucify over differences of opinions. You argue for him better than he does himself btw. Lol.
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Thank you for the compliment. I'm always down good a spirited debate (why I became a lawyer).

Its always easier to defend someone else than to defend yourself. I can appreciate the position the Beaver is in, as far as that goes.

Ultimately, I believe he, like all of us, truly wants to see Tennessee where it belongs. I just can't stand to see the teeter-totter of crucifixion. There is always a middle ground/path. He's likely neither a saint nor a troll. He's probably somewhere in the middle.
 
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Behr, I'm coming for you!

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Legendary said:
Any way you could help us out and tell us it’s NOT Steele? I believe most here would be able to breathe a sigh of relief.
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I do not think it is Steele based on all the conversations I have had. Now that I have said that he will be hired. I’m pretty confident it’s not him.
 
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Per TOS, "Fulmer and Davenport have left NYC, but no one knows where they went. I assume wherever Jimmy Sexton is."

Sorry just saw where this was already posted.
 
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HearForGrumors said:
If you don't understand how media/strategy works, then it probably doesn't make sense. This is a closed universe of players. By keeping his posts protected, he made his twitter a commodity. By building desire, he built a following. Think about it this way, I made a twitter for the sole purpose of messaging him. I now have 50+ followers, purely because I was followed by him. I've never tweeted, or anything. Like it or not, he did build brand image, and did so in a very informed and strategic way.

His message was widely shared, he got plenty of views, and he became a talking point in the discussion. Believe him or not, you have accept those facts.

Additionally, its all about framing. Did he "pray" on hopes, or did he use our hopes as fuel for raising consumer expectations? Did he troll us, or did he take some inside information and leverage it towards an objective?

This "b'b'b'but beav, you proooomised us Gruden." sentiment is childish and ignorant. You are a d*mn adult. It is not anyone's fault but your own if you buy into hype and it doesn't come to fruition. Stop blaming other people because your hopes didn't become reality.

Beaver talking to us didn't make Gruden an impossibility or any less likely. Him posting here didn't directly make any big name coach unwilling to come here.

Had Currie not tried to shove Schiano/Doeren down our throats, we would have gladly turned our Gruden optimism into delight for a competent coach.
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uhhhh he was building his brand _IN_ the gruden thread.
 
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CladInOrange said:
Calling Showmeyourtd's - what do you think of Pruitt hire?
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Hey Clad.... Like I have said before, I will not jump off of the Gruden Train until someone else is on that podium. I have spent way way too many hours researching and talking to people... mostly off of this board... to jump off now....When that day comes (yes, I am afraid that day will come) I will be more than glad to give you my opinion on the hire. I will only say this....

I will always be a VFL and support my players on the field and the orange on my sleeves.
 
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