Official Jon Gruden Thread XIII

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Hey! Glad we're all 7 years old here. The fate of Big Orange Football hangs in the balance, so...

let's ask questions we don't really mean and trick people.

Congratulations.

AV

Dude...please lighten up. Believe me, I've been here the whole time...and it's getting old for everyone. Laugh a little. The sky isn't falling....
 
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I am a "preponderance of evidence" kind of guy and do not like the way today is unfolding. By the end of the day today I am planning to take a firm stance. Logically speaking I can say I am no better then 50-50. Say what you want, the VQ article is very very bad and I read it as a quasi-press release. I expect UT to address it further today through an official release if the VQ story is spot on.

I haven't talked to anyone today but the mood among other believers at work is somber right now at best.

I keep thinking about what Basilio said...we could have had him as little as two weeks ago and backed off
 
Ok,
I hear it's done but Hart wants it to look like it's a legitimate interview process and hire that He's responsible for And not something the boosters did. I'm now not confident when the announcement will be.

Harts really pissing me off.

Just make the D@mn announcement for the love of all things Holy!!!!

Wow. This makes the most sense of all this mess to me...two camps, power struggle, etc.
 
What is there to lose?


In the end, if its not Gruden, I fear that not a single soul will be happy with what me might have to end up with.

The saddest of affairs is if we hang out so much money and not a single top notch coach wants it, then UT Football is done. We are not as great of a destination as we all want to believe.
How do you know how much was hung out? We know UTAD inside sources say 2.9 mil to pay. That want get you a Gruden or Stoops or Saban
 
Been a member for a while...hardly ever post though. Been reading and following this thread for 2 weeks now non-stop. I want to pose a question for the OG's or anyone that been around for a bit...

If the Gruden deal has in fact fallen through, who would be the absolute best possible and most realistic candidate that we could pursue, that would not only succeed at UT, but also that us fans would accept? I'm trying to think of others beside Golden or Strong (which have been mentioned a lot) because I just don't think they could be the answer. I'm still all Gruden though until I hear from Hart or Gruden that's its not happening. I'll hang up and listen...

Larry Fedora IMO
 
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I am a "preponderance of evidence" kind of guy and do not like the way today is unfolding. By the end of the day today I am planning to take a firm stance. Logically speaking I can say I am no better then 50-50. Say what you want, the VQ article is very very bad and I read it as a quasi-press release. I expect UT to address it further today through an official release if the VQ story is spot on.

I haven't talked to anyone today but the mood among other believers at work is somber right now at best.

Yeah, I agree. I don't blame insiders, because Knoxville press has had no consistency, and only come out and say they know something if they get scooped. It's no wonder everyone is confused.

Still, with the VQ article, I can't help but think that we wont see John Gruden on our sidelines. Maybe Hart was in Oklahoma last night, and there are two really good coaches there. Still, it ain't Gruden. Knoxville isn't going to be happy.
 
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Gruden removing name helps Hart avoid an angry fan mob. Now on to a list of better fits.
 
Anybody seen a fat lady or horses mouth? It ain't over yet. GVX article said nothing about CJG actually saying no... only the title. No sources, no nothing. Just an attack on CFT. Woodbury should be fired.
 
Last night I saw someone post a qoute by leonard little and i totally agree with him. If gruden really wants to be a vol then he would work with us and become the coach. But everything we have heard from gruden side is pay this pay that meet my demands. it seems to be more about tha money and control than just wanting to be the next head football coach at TENNESEE!!! Freakin get somebody in here who want to kick some ass with ut and has our back to tha end. If your to big for my university I dont want your ass anyway. theres some coaches out there i will take anyday. I saw strong gettin fired up last jumpin up and down smackin kids on the helmet and beat a good rutgers team at there house last night. if he was at UT he would recruit better players more often and get them! And i gurantee no other coach is gonna talk trash to em cuz he would probly lay somebody out. just sayin im supporting tha next coach because he wants to be here!!:gun:
 
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I still concur something odd is going on:

1. Gruden backed out at the 11th hour.

2. There is some internal rumbling going on between the UTAD and boosters.

3. Gruden is still coming, and the strangest misdirection campaign of all time is being conducted which will leave a lot of explaining to do behind closed doors.

At this point, I have no idea which of the three options is true, but I am concerned.

Me too, I agree with your breakdown here. Afraid it is #1. Heard a few things I havent wanted to post. A HUGE booster yesterday told me personally it was off and was not likely to be revived. Had conflicting info from a former member of the AD but the booster story was very similar to what is going around today.
 
Leonard Little said this: if they haven't announced a coach by Monday, he was getting Al and the old school van and just going to kidnap Gruden. Ainge could be lookout.
 
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He may be, but he said he is 100% through the announcement. If everyone believes him, why do they have to keep asking? My problem isn't with Boro, it's with the whiney babies that need their pacifier for some reassurance. He isn't wavering until a coach is signed.

You have no idea what you're talking about. He could get a text/email at any point that could reduce his confidence to 80%. My point is, you don't control me, or Boro. He don't need you running around behind him sweeping and dusting.
Let him answer.
 
How do you know how much was hung out? We know UTAD inside sources say 2.9 mil to pay. That want get you a Gruden or Stoops or Saban

If they low ball, no sense in even trying

If they low ball, the entire Administration needs to get the hell out of dodge

A used car salesman could run a better program
 
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