Official Jon Gruden Thread XIII

[photovol]

This just my personal opinion but I've felt like the boosters have wanted to move and take back the university for awhile just me though nothing to support it

By God they should after the last few years..."Tennessee Pride" by God

 

[TheMayja]

This is not hyperbole; Hart is getting dangerously close to being public enemy #1 for Vol fans.

 

[crazyguy]

That is the ultimate question:

If true, why does Dave Hart not want Jon Gruden?

Dave Hart isn't an idiot.

Gruden wants too much control.

 

[SagginVawls]

I want more links! (No homo)

 

[esarmstrong]

That is the ultimate question:

If true, why does Dave Hart not want Jon Gruden?

Dave Hart isn't an idiot.

I must admit, this is a question that is troubling me right now, too.

 

[Dudleys87]

You? Man surely not. I thought you were full Gruden?

I am, I was pissed earlier cause I evidently read a bad leak.
Something along the lines of "Gruden no longer interested Golden #1 target" and every jumped all over me...

 

[zjcvols]

But he's an FSU (Fisher) and Bammer (Smart) guy....

Think about it.

I could get wanting Fisher over Gruden. I wouldn't but get it.

Smart would be stupid (see what I did there?).

 

[wbailey7]

I don't think we get Gruden without Hart's support, though. That awkward feeling when a guy who was responsible for hiring you resigns because he didn't want you there. I think that would be enough to scare Gruden away.

IDk. This is taking a toll on me.

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

This dynamic between the AD/Dave Hart is interesting as hell.

It is, but boosters have always signed off on all hires, and essentially approve or disapprove of them. My guess, they weren't going to go after anyone else, because they KNOW Gruden will make back all the money lost in the past season, probably before the season is half over. Gruden's economic impact just doesn't stop at the football level, but at the school level as well. Think about how many kids want to go to school where Gruden is coaching football.

 

[VolFan32]

Rucker is so mad right now. Love it.

 

[jdogvol]

I agree, but Hart's whole deal was that he wanted to do this his way.

He can do it his way as long as it's also the boosters' way.

 

[Catbone]

I'm going to write a book on this Thread.

 

[VolNExile]

Anyone buying this angle? I heard something about it 2 weeks ago, but thought it was just another silly rumor.

(about Hart supposedly quitting if Gruden were hired)

He'd be a fool. Stay, and take all the credit. Memories are short, and can often be out-shouted.

 

[peelwonder]

again, how was Hargis the lucky one that got to break the story......

 

[zjcvols]

Gruden wants too much control.

And that's a scary thought right there.

 

[Dudleys87]

Gruden wants too much control.

That and maybe hes thinking hes trying protecting the University from a one year and out deal?

 

[golf]

KNS finally came out with a report...

LMFAO!!!

My friend is literally gasping for air every time I call her.

That's what they get for being in the AD's pocket.

Did they come out with it in time for this morning's paper? If so, they will save some face.

 

[VolFan32]

I don't think we get Gruden without Hart's support, though. That awkward feeling when a guy who was responsible for hiring you resigns because he didn't want you there. I think that would be enough to scare Gruden away.

IDk. This is taking a toll on me.

Not when the guys footing the bill made you their one and only choice.

 

[Unknown Muppet]

This is not hyperbole; Hart is getting dangerously close to being public enemy #1 for Vol fans.

I'll wait on the hate.

I wanna see how the next 48 hours go. He still has a part in this whole deal.

 

[warrior]

Talking about dominating the news cycle. Friday Sportscenter, Saturday on College Gameday and SEC championship game, Nfl guys would discuss Sunday, plus MNF. Please let it be!

And an avalanche in recruiting next week. Jay Graham gets much credit. This thing could not have turned out better.

 

[VFL1]

Shocker. What we have been saying for a month now is finally getting out.

But I thought the local media said this couldn't happen?

We have seen through this all along. The money is running this thing. Nice try Hart. Nice try Hyams. The Vols are coming back an there's nothing you can do or say to stop us.

 

[govols10302bb]

I agree. Right now I think it's unwise to judge Hart. No way of knowing what the real deal is or even if he's really upset. For all we know it could be a ruse or another rumor thrown out there for more smoke. Hell, this whole thing is so damned confusing. Heck, maybe (if this turns out good) Hart *is* a hero in all this, or the boosters, or hell, I give up. Just hope they land him. Then again, the way this whole thing has gone down so far who knows what could happen.

Agree..To believe anything we have read anywhere in the last two weeks would be a mistake.

 

[bam15]

And that's a scary thought right there.

It's not to me.

Every single person from the Niners org was that way. Every one.

 

[OrangeShadeOfDoom]

I don't think we get Gruden without Hart's support, though. That awkward feeling when a guy who was responsible for hiring you resigns because he didn't want you there. I think that would be enough to scare Gruden away.

IDk. This is taking a toll on me.

I agree.

Thin ice.

 

[TechnoVol]

From my perch, this is all somewhat strange. So I'll just tell you what I have been through the last two hours and see what you think.

1. At 10p, I got two simultaneous, unsolicited texts from a primary source (booster side) telling me the deal was off. No details. Nothing. I've still got nothing else from that end. But I held off because of crap like this.

2. TFP publishes article saying legit offer was on table for Gruden, directly quoting sources close to the deal.

3. At 12a, Babyvol says "It's done!"

4. At 12:30a Someone points me to a discussion on TOS where John Brice insinuates Hart may not stick around if Gruden is hired, and that he wants to go another direction.

You tell me?

Hence we have the new term you coined earlier tonight... information "Pretzel". Perfectly describes the situation. :hi: