Official Jon Gruden Thread XII

[rkvdg]

Just now on VQ

Legitimate Gruden Info, w/ Sources Reply
For starters, because I know many of you will look at my history, look up the name bustedplaycom. I was a member for a little over three years, cancelled my membership, and have since come back (just a few months now). I've never once claimed to have any "inside information" or even a clue of what's going on within UT or any of its coaching searches. Having said that, I have a friend out in Los Angeles (who graduated from UT with me) that works for Landmark Sports Agency, and used to work at PSR, where Bob Lamonte is President and Founder. I've been nagging him for the last 5-7 days for any info, but he hasn't had any. Today he called me, and this is what he had to say:

UT has done everything on its end to try and make Gruden their next coach. He doesn't know the exact details, but he said (from what he's heard) that UT has reached out to Gruden and has offered him an 8 year, $58m deal.They offered him $4.2m for a staff, and he came back wanting more; they counted with $4.9m for a staff, and this number, according to him, is still a bit of an issue, and is yet to be resolved.

Gruden is very worried about NCAA rules, recruiting, and violations -- that sounds like a very little thing on the surface, but it's apparently one of the major things that's keeping him from pulling the trigger to coach college ball. In the NFL, all the guy has to do is worry about a draft (which is mostly up to the GM); in the NCAA, he has to worry about what types of spreads can be given for bagels at a breakfast event.

Bob Lamonte, according to my friend, is addicted to getting his clients power -- he said if anyone questions this, please Google Mike Holmgren, Andy Reid, Mike Sherman, and our very own Jon Gruden.

Jon Gruden's wife is HUGE in this -- supposedly, and I quote, "she's much more of a driving force than you'd ever imagine in making a decision that decides the next 8 years of their life." I will tell you my friend was a bit of a drama queen at UT -- I lived w/ the guy, and he has a knack for dramatics -- but he said this deal wouldn't even be close without her.

There is an ownership at stake for this with the Cleveland Browns. I don't know the numbers, and I actually mocked the OP who put this out there, but it's time for me to apologize for that. I thought it was completely absurd, but from what he's told me, it's 100% legitimate. He suspects it's a very small number, but any ownership stake in an NFL team to coach a college team would certainly be a first.

On the cancellation: My friend has no inside scoop on that. I asked him to text me if he heard anything, but at the time we spoke (a little over two hours ago), he didn't have any information.

His overall thoughts: He, unlike myself, doesn't think the deal is dead in the water. He said what separates the two sides is a few million dollars (over the course of 8 years, not PER year) and a legitimate control issue over football operations (per him, Gruden wants ALL power when it comes to football decisions, as far as who's brought on, who's fired, etc., and there's a different side of opinions between the two parties). The money for Gruden is where he wants it, but there still seems to be a gap in the money he wants for assistants -- this is big to Gruden, being new to the college game, and he wants to make sure he has the best staff in place, from both a coordinating and recruiting standpoint.

That's what I know. You can call me a troll, much like I have everyone else. I didn't trust anyone because I have a friend in the industry who has very close connections, and he himself hadn't heard anything. I'm not claiming it's a done deal, not claiming there's any ink to dry, not saying it's dead, not saying it's close. Just telling you about a conversation I had with an old roommate.

If I hear anything else, I'll be sure to post.
11/28 8:27 PM | IP: Logged

damn fine post

 

[Burhead]

Seriously how is $4.9 million not enough?

 

[bcartervol98]

If this goes South I will be right here for You to mock. The guys I'm lucky enough to know don't miss often.
this morning I was told all is well. And if Hart can work it all out we will still have an announcement friday.
Tifwiw

I would totally listen to this.

 

[Face]

View attachment 52722

Nice picture of Hart

 

[orangepeopleeater]

 

[LameLefty]

Just now on VQ

Legitimate Gruden Info, w/ Sources Reply

(SNIPPED)

I negotiate deals for a living every single day and have for the better part of 2 decades. This smacks of truth to me, even though I have ZERO specific information one way or another. The devil truly is in the details and it ALWAYS is.

 

[GmanTN]

Resurrect my Stadium

Gruden 2012!!

 

[smokeyhuntsgators]

Just finished watching Christmas in Rockefeller Center..

How's it going?

 

[Orangeslice13]

You being wrong certainly won't be celebrated by me. I am just the guy nobody cares what I think according to you. Not sure why I keep getting quoted by you since I am so irrelevant

Cause I like you.

 

[patrick]

I am over this garbage.

Either Gruden wants to be the next HC of the Vols or he doesn't, everything else is window dressing! Don't get me wrong I want Gruden here and think he would he a great hire.

However, there are other coaches out there who can get the job done and I do not mean Golden or Fedora and any other lackluster average football coach!

 

[Elvis68Vol]

This is all a smokescreen to make everybody look like heros.....Hart, Gruden, Boosters, Cheek.....And everybody in Volnation lived happily ever after.....Soon....but the Drama getting there......sheez.....

Is your avatar naked? no, no don't tell me. I'm just going to pretend she is.

 

[qb19]

Ah, the daily bi-polar paradigm shift.

Time for my nightly dose of Seroquel.

Ah yes, the old circadium rhythm kicks in. Those adrenal glands have a job to do and by God, they do it come hell or high water. :yes:

 

[VolMaster14]

Just now on VQ

Legitimate Gruden Info, w/ Sources Reply
For starters, because I know many of you will look at my history, look up the name bustedplaycom. I was a member for a little over three years, cancelled my membership, and have since come back (just a few months now). I've never once claimed to have any "inside information" or even a clue of what's going on within UT or any of its coaching searches. Having said that, I have a friend out in Los Angeles (who graduated from UT with me) that works for Landmark Sports Agency, and used to work at PSR, where Bob Lamonte is President and Founder. I've been nagging him for the last 5-7 days for any info, but he hasn't had any. Today he called me, and this is what he had to say:

UT has done everything on its end to try and make Gruden their next coach. He doesn't know the exact details, but he said (from what he's heard) that UT has reached out to Gruden and has offered him an 8 year, $58m deal.They offered him $4.2m for a staff, and he came back wanting more; they counted with $4.9m for a staff, and this number, according to him, is still a bit of an issue, and is yet to be resolved.

Gruden is very worried about NCAA rules, recruiting, and violations -- that sounds like a very little thing on the surface, but it's apparently one of the major things that's keeping him from pulling the trigger to coach college ball. In the NFL, all the guy has to do is worry about a draft (which is mostly up to the GM); in the NCAA, he has to worry about what types of spreads can be given for bagels at a breakfast event.

Bob Lamonte, according to my friend, is addicted to getting his clients power -- he said if anyone questions this, please Google Mike Holmgren, Andy Reid, Mike Sherman, and our very own Jon Gruden.

Jon Gruden's wife is HUGE in this -- supposedly, and I quote, "she's much more of a driving force than you'd ever imagine in making a decision that decides the next 8 years of their life." I will tell you my friend was a bit of a drama queen at UT -- I lived w/ the guy, and he has a knack for dramatics -- but he said this deal wouldn't even be close without her.

There is an ownership at stake for this with the Cleveland Browns. I don't know the numbers, and I actually mocked the OP who put this out there, but it's time for me to apologize for that. I thought it was completely absurd, but from what he's told me, it's 100% legitimate. He suspects it's a very small number, but any ownership stake in an NFL team to coach a college team would certainly be a first.

On the cancellation: My friend has no inside scoop on that. I asked him to text me if he heard anything, but at the time we spoke (a little over two hours ago), he didn't have any information.

His overall thoughts: He, unlike myself, doesn't think the deal is dead in the water. He said what separates the two sides is a few million dollars (over the course of 8 years, not PER year) and a legitimate control issue over football operations (per him, Gruden wants ALL power when it comes to football decisions, as far as who's brought on, who's fired, etc., and there's a different side of opinions between the two parties). The money for Gruden is where he wants it, but there still seems to be a gap in the money he wants for assistants -- this is big to Gruden, being new to the college game, and he wants to make sure he has the best staff in place, from both a coordinating and recruiting standpoint.

That's what I know. You can call me a troll, much like I have everyone else. I didn't trust anyone because I have a friend in the industry who has very close connections, and he himself hadn't heard anything. I'm not claiming it's a done deal, not claiming there's any ink to dry, not saying it's dead, not saying it's close. Just telling you about a conversation I had with an old roommate.

If I hear anything else, I'll be sure to post.
11/28 8:27 PM | IP: Logged

I want to believe this. If this is a troll job, you sir should be a writer.

 

[bcartervol98]

Just finished watching Christmas in Rockefeller Center..

How's it going?

Hey it's VolReporters source?

Haha jk, read his last post and you will get it.

 

[TechnoVol]

Just now on VQ

Legitimate Gruden Info, w/ Sources Reply
For starters...

Gruden is very worried about NCAA rules, recruiting, and violations -- that sounds like a very little thing on the surface, but it's apparently one of the major things that's keeping him from pulling the trigger to coach college ball.

If Gruden is really worried about this and it's one of the major things keeping him from pulling the trigger then I suggest CJG hire the best compliance person he can find and delegate. It's simple, he comes to UT and the recruits will too.

 

[fwbpastor]

Just came in from church, saw a picture of a naked fat man...... going back to church...

 

[jdogvol]

who is RIGA a poster in the cliff notes ?
he posted this.


There's a rumor out there that Gruden actually told Hart "to come with a contract or don't come at all..."

Predictably, Hubbs says he has heard the rumor but can't confirm it, says he's comfortable in saying that Gruden has never been offered a contract by Hart or TN.

Could have simply meant:
"Wait until the final contract is drawn up and ready for signatures before you come."

 

[Jake]

They weren't created by the media. They are issues that came to light doing due diligence.

Possible binding contractual issues?

If that's the case, then perhaps this saga goes on til after MNF is over?? Thoughts

Or does the issue involve the Browns/Tampa/UT circle?

I was told today that the cancellation by Gruden is in fact real, not a perception deflector or political smokescreen.

 

[MFL]

Dont get why some are so worried about right and wrong. None of you have anything to do with the work actually going on behind the scenes to make this happen. Some of you act like your talking to Gruden and making this happen. Dang, enjoy the entertainment aspects of this. We all want the same end result.

 

[BruinVol]

I would totally listen to this.

Carter your last post that I remember being very relevant info was your source said they were going to close the deal in Tuesday(?).

Have you heard anything from that source since that meeting especially since the nonsense this afternoon?

 

[Coastypop]

If this goes South I will be right here for You to mock. The guys I'm lucky enough to know don't miss often.
this morning I was told all is well. And if Hart can work it all out we will still have an announcement friday.
Tifwiw

would they have been aware of the reported cancelled meeting at that time????

 

[InVOLuntary]

Please quit posting/quoting the fat guy pics!

 

[Captainzach1]

I want to believe this. If this is a troll job, you sir should be a writer.

Good punctuation and spelling. Unlike Vol Reporter and his usage of there/their/they're

 

[tastycar]

Possible binding contractual issues?

If that's the case, then perhaps this saga goes on til after MNF is over?? Thoughts

I was told today that the cancellation by Gruden is in fact real, not a perception deflector or political smokescreen.

Dang it...now that's a downer.....

 

[Dr H Lecter]

Possible binding contractual issues?

If that's the case, then perhaps this saga goes on til after MNF is over?? Thoughts

I was told today that the cancellation by Gruden is in fact real, not a perception deflector or political smokescreen.

It's a little more personal/work issue. I believe your info is correct about the meeting.