Official Jon Gruden Thread IV

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BJWeeks said:
Best thing we can do is to not show up for the Troy game. Tell Everyone you know that plans on going not to go. Wait until Hart see Neyland with only 50000 people show up.
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Had a chance to. As a birthday present. Turned it down. I'll go camping with my boy instead.
 
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daj2576 said:
Anyone who has ever negotiated contracts or brokered high-stakes deals in the corporate or political arena would know that the professionals involved don't generally leak out information as any hiccup could end the deal prematurely. IF you accept that as true, and I do in general, which of the two options below makes more sense?

1) Very wealthy boosters (many of whom are corporate big-wigs and also politicians) are working a deal with Gruden behind closed doors, by back channel communications, yet apparently more than a handful of them are whispering details to their good friends, who are then turning around and posting this on message boards, OR

2) We are either being intentionally or negligently mislead. As C.L. said last night on the radio, Gruden loves media attention. Maybe the fans are having incorrect info leaked to them knowing that the crescendo of noise will get picked up by the media so when negotiations do start in earnest the AD can say "See Coach Gruden, the fans already love you". Or, maybe it is just like the telephone game, X said to A who said to B who said to C. The message C gets is nothing close to what X told A.

I am not trying to micturate in anyone's breakfast cereal of choice, I am just trying to rationalize all of the data that comes and goes through these hallowed walls. I do not know any insiders, nor do I know anyone who knows any insiders (and I don't mean to question people who have laid out insider sources) but none of this makes any sense to me.

The sad thing is that of the "big news" that has happened at UT (such as coaches leaving/being hired) or disciplinary problems and concurrent dismissals and other real goings on inside the program I heard on the news before I ever read so much information about them on here. I am just dubious.
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This is exactly why I choose to believe Boro and only Boro on anything regarding Gruden. Since his connection deals directly with Jon Gruden and only Jon Gruden.

I respect most (with the exception of a few) but doubt them regardless.

During the Randy Shannon debacle I actually knew someone who was working in the AD. He know longer works there, but I didn't hear a peep from him except that he was hearing the same rumors I was.
 
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1world1love said:
i can't speak for anybody else, but this sums it up for me.

As I said, I am just going to pretend that Gruden is our coach no matter what happens.
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Lol. This where these "insiders" get people. Posters have sooooooo much hope Gruden will become the next UT head coach and want it so badly, when someone comes with info saying Gruden is the next UT coach they latch onto to it. They take it as truth, and forget that some of these so called "insiders" have been completely wrong multiple times. Where's Randy Shannon at? Let's bring up some of those old posts guaranteeing he would be the next DC. That sure worked out.
 
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Oh well, have to face the music this morning. Bama fan has been running his mouth non-stop about this situation. Had all I could take and spouted off "just wait until Monday when DD is fired". Dread this. I deserve it though.
 
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daj2576 said:
Anyone who has ever negotiated contracts or brokered high-stakes deals in the corporate or political arena would know that the professionals involved don't generally leak out information as any hiccup could end the deal prematurely. IF you accept that as true, and I do in general, which of the two options below makes more sense?

1) Very wealthy boosters (many of whom are corporate big-wigs and also politicians) are working a deal with Gruden behind closed doors, by back channel communications, yet apparently more than a handful of them are whispering details to their good friends, who are then turning around and posting this on message boards, OR

2) We are either being intentionally or negligently mislead. As C.L. said last night on the radio, Gruden loves media attention. Maybe the fans are having incorrect info leaked to them knowing that the crescendo of noise will get picked up by the media so when negotiations do start in earnest the AD can say "See Coach Gruden, the fans already love you". Or, maybe it is just like the telephone game, X said to A who said to B who said to C. The message C gets is nothing close to what X told A.

I am not trying to micturate in anyone's breakfast cereal of choice, I am just trying to rationalize all of the data that comes and goes through these hallowed walls. I do not know any insiders, nor do I know anyone who knows any insiders (and I don't mean to question people who have laid out insider sources) but none of this makes any sense to me.

The sad thing is that of the "big news" that has happened at UT (such as coaches leaving/being hired) or disciplinary problems and concurrent dismissals and other real goings on inside the program I heard on the news before I ever read so much information about them on here. I am just dubious.
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Has anyone thought about the 2008 Bucs season? Monte Kiffin announced he was leaving for Tennessee and the Bucs went from 9-3 to 9-7 and missed the playoffs and Gruden was fired. Anyone worried that he is mad at us and is getting his revenge?
 
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How are people not bringing up next year schedules as a point to how we are looking at another long season ? I don't see a win at Florida at Alabama or at Oregon but that's just me .
 
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MSCE09 said:
Has anyone thought about the 2008 Bucs season? Monte Kiffin announced he was leaving for Tennessee and the Bucs went from 9-3 to 9-7 and missed the playoffs and Gruden was fired. Anyone worried that he is mad at us and is getting his revenge?
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Interesting point, I do not follow pro football much.

However, I think that once you get into the upper echelons of sports management (or any management in general) that grudges are trumped by the almighty dollar. These are dispassionate business decisions being made, or so I would like to believe.
 
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While I can't wait for Dooley to be fired, Has anyone gave a thought to the fact that our Chancellor is from University of Florida, our AD is from the University of Alabama and our Head Coach is from the University of Georgia....Some of our problem may be deeper than the Head Coach.
 
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anybody just hear that last call on Ainge's show?
about Dooley turning down a kid wanting a photo
 
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murz said:
anybody just hear that last call on Ainge's show?
about Dooley turning down a kid wanting a photo
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Yes.

The one thing I have continued to hear from people, on the outside looking in, is that Dooley is a good guy, just not a good coach.

Starting to see more and more of how he is also a jerk as well as a sucky coach.
 
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