Official Jon Gruden Thread 34

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#106
Cutcliffe looks like an elderly homeless person. Senile. No offense. I will say IF Gruden truly has no interest in UT than he can go to hell for letting this drag on like this. I have always said he enjoys the speculation and platitudes about him. He loves to be loved and wanted. ..but he could have stopped all this a long time ago if not interested. I still want him as coach...but my excited anticipation is starting to turn to anger.
 
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steve328 said:
I was at about 98 but since the Swain tweet, I'm down to 40. I'm just going to ride it out and see what happens.
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swains info comes from ut, I am sure the article was written from somebodys info from UT, The boosters are in charge of this. So that is the information we need to be holding on to. from people who has boosters info not Ut info.
 
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newyorkvol said:
So do you believe football scoop guy who hasn’t talked to Gruden himself or Knox media guys who haven’t talked to Gruden themselves. Again, until it’s PJ Fleck standing at the podium, there’s not one bit of media information that should be believed, either good or bad, until the actual press conference.
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If PJ Fleck comes to the podium for any reason other than to fill Jon Gruden's water glass I'm jumping off of the Henley Street Bridge.
 
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HorusHawk said:
This is what Hubbs put out this morning...

As we enter Day 2 of Football Coaching Search Time at Tennessee, here's a collection of notes and nuggets from @Brent_Hubbs, @Austin_Price, @Jesse_Simonton and @Rob Lewis.

Rumors continue regarding Jon Gruden — so let's start there.

Despite other reports, multiple sources close to Tee Martin, Terry Fair and Jay Graham tell VolQuest.com that those three have not had any contact with Gruden.

It's no secret that in years past that Gruden (in November and December) has called coaching friends and spoken to them about possibly joining him if he goes back into coaching, and sources tell VolQuest, that Gruden has reached out to a coach or two about the possibility of working together in the near future. That doesn't mean he's inquired with them about coaching in college.

There is continued talk about Gruden and Tampa Bay. NFL Insider Jason LaCanfoa noted Gruden to the Bucs as a possibility, and Tuesday morning, Michael Smith of Pro Football Talk said talk of Gruden's return to Tampa is heating up. This jives with some scuttle we were hearing Sunday.

Gruden called the Monday Night Football game in Carolina and continues to be very limited in talking to the media. Last week on the Rich Eisen Show, Gruden once again further fueled speculation on a possible return to coaching, saying, “You never know.”

As for John Currie, it seems pretty clear that Currie and those helping him worked the phones hard on Monday. There was a report that Tennessee had reached out to former Vol and defensive coordinator Kacy Rodgers. It's been indicated to us that there is truth to that report, but no one believes Rodgers, who last coached in college in 2002, is going to be a real candidate.

With the new early signing period, the timing is going to be very difficult for NFL coaches. When then Patriots offensive coordinator Charlie Weis was named the Notre Dame coach that announcement came on Dec. 12th and Weis balanced both jobs until the end of the NFL season. But that's a rare case and there was no early signing day to contend with. As someone in the NFL told VolQuest last night, “The early signing day is a game changer for sure.”

This impacts a guy like Doug Marrone. The Jags head coach has expressed third-party interest in Tennessee, seeing the Vols as true destination job. However, the timing has never been quite right for Marrone, and that seems especially true right now with his current success at Jacksonville + the new signing period deadline.

As for college coaches, there’s been contact with Mississippi State’s Dan Mullen, but talks are far from serious yet. Interestingly, one person told VolQuest that Mullen isn’t too keen on the idea of Florida and is definitely intrigued by Tennessee. A wild card could be FSU, though. If Jimbo Fisher leaves Tallahassee, Mullen could be in play there.

Chad Morris is another name who definitely has interest in Tennessee. The former Clemson OC and current SMU head coach is responsible for recruiting and developing Deshaun Watson and has turned around a dormant program in Dallas. Morris is a Texas A&M alum and has coached a longtime in the Longhorn State, and he could be a candidate for A&M if the Aggies don’t land a big fish.

Meanwhile, another name that has popped up in relation to Tennessee is Auburn's defensive coordinator Kevin Steele. Steele is a veteran assistant who was once with the Vols. He's another name that someone close to Tennessee has checked on, but again the feeling from everyone right now is that Tennessee is looking for a current head coach. However, Steele, who is currently engineering a Top 10 Tigers defense, could be a coordinator option for the next head coach.

Finally, what remains to be seen at this point is what financial waters is Tennessee going to swim in? Currie is on the record saying Tennessee has the resources, but does that mean they will pay someone $7-8 million dollars a year — nearly double what Jones was making? People we’ve spoke with on Tuesday seemed to reaffirm Currie’s stance regarding resources: i.e. appears Tennessee to have some real money to play with this year.
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1) I'd trust Brice over Hubbs any day.

2) This is basically saying Tennessee doesn't have a coach locked down, which, again, runs contradictory to the entire 'no search firm' and 'days not weeks' Currie has put forth. Like seriously? ALL of the coaches we're going after have declined or aren't viable?

3) Currie doesn't have a choice about the money. He HAS to spend big this go around and has made clear so. $7mil will be necessary and it has been widely accepted the boosters are footing this bill. We aren't bargin bin diving because we can't with the MASSIVE renovation coming to Neyland. It HAS to be a splash hire, no choice, or Currie knows it will be his head.


Basically this update is a farce. There are other things coming out to get worried about, this not being one of them. I'm not saying the talks aren't cooling off with Gruden, maybe they are. But if anything, this shows NO ONE has any idea what's actually happening except Currie. And even Currie said this would be the case.
 
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djohnnyg said:
Cutcliffe looks like an elderly homeless person. Senile. No offense. I will say IF Gruden truly has no interest in UT than he can go to hell for letting this drag on like this. I have always said he enjoys the speculation and platitudes about him. He loves to be loved and wanted. ..but he could have stopped all this a long time ago if not interested. I still want him as coach...but my excited anticipation is starting to turn to anger.
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That statement may come in the morning on M&M.
 
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Chatt Vol said:
Did Jon Gruden say that?
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Nope. This is all part of the negative media campaign. People got burned on Gruden last time. Additionally, there are quite a few national media members that view the Tennessee position as a 2nd tier job. They are the ones who are typically infatuated with UF, Bama, and tOSU. They generally don't have any real information, just strong opinions.
 
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djohnnyg said:
Cutcliffe looks like an elderly homeless person. Senile. No offense. I will say IF Gruden truly has no interest in UT than he can go to hell for letting this drag on like this. I have always said he enjoys the speculation and platitudes about him. He loves to be loved and wanted. ..but he could have stopped all this a long time ago if not interested. I still want him as coach...but my excited anticipation is starting to turn to anger.
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Agree. Honestly ... if he had NO interest, I think we'd know by now.
 
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revjayp said:
Best thing about Swains misinformed tweet is all the pearl clutchers are leaving and we can get back to normal in here.
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I can’t speak on the other two but Coach Cut is not an option. If he were to be approached and accept the job you could knock me over with a feather. I know for a fact he enjoys his quality of life and with his heart issues the stress of TN is too much at this point in his life. He gets to play a lot of golf, get out of the office early and deal with no drama.
 
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Here is my take on the media types like Tony B and Swain.

Let me step back and say that I don't listen to either of their shows, I only have to go on by what's posted on here.

Neither one seems connected or seems to have legit sources within the program.

It seems Tony B just grasps at info wherever he can get it, here, other journalists, and maybe 3rd or 4th hand info from a few people.

Swain seems connected to the AD side and he is getting crumbs.

I don't think either of them know what is going on for sure, and there are some on here that seem way better connected than either of them.

I'll take what they say with a grain of salt just the same as I do with what a posted on here.

Soon...
 
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#123
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People I believe with relevant info to Gruden and the hire:

Currie
AV
DTO
Boro
Wallace
Gruden Himself.

Everyone else claiming to be in the know, I just keep on scrolling.

Edit: Oh and the occasional pause to give The Comb a like :)
 
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newyorkvol said:
So do you believe football scoop guy who hasn’t talked to Gruden himself or Knox media guys who haven’t talked to Gruden themselves. Again, until it’s PJ Fleck standing at the podium, there’s not one bit of media information that should be believed, either good or bad, until the actual press conference.
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You really shouldn’t put stock in the Scoop.
It’s the Wikipedia of Sports rumors
 
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