Official Jon Gruden thread 32.

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I agree with this..... but DTOs post all of a sudden giving us a new obstacle here at the last minute seems to come at very strange time and also convenient time if you want to have a reason to say that your 100% confidence was right but you need wiggle room

I have less hope today than I ever did and must say I look for us now to hire Frost

Okay?
 
Because you are just being a **** because you are hurt by this season like so many of us on here.

MOST of us come here for a little bit of hope and all I've seen of you tonight is seizing an opportunity to **** people off. That's a **** move.

So it's not more sensible to drop a little good info if your an insider rather than say he's meeting with Tampa?

Being a dick is spewing info that is or isn't any more credible than what they report? Come on. I'm not taking any opportunity it's a fact of let's jump and lock in but jump back out when **** happens
 
The only answer is Gruden. Anything else and all the people involved in the process are going to come out drenched in stench. There will be no acceptable spin.

The best answer in a lot of peoples minds is gruden. But it’s not the only answer.

Lots of great options. Butch is a clown and was still able to sniff 10 win seasons but found ways to systematically come up short.

A guy without his problems wins the east the last 2 years and probably beats bama in 2015.
 
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I think Frost is a very good coach his resume is fantastic but I don't think we get him. I think he goes to Florida because the recruiting can be done in state that is part of what he likes about UCF.

That is interesting ... I had Mullen penciled in at Florida
 
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So frustrating every time this thread is going in one direction, dto always finds the best time to "throw out some vague info" that is contrary to that direction, regardless of how insignificant it is. Why? He is now the most important person on volnation.

What's the point. The info is useless. "Maybe a hurdle". Tampa might be contacting him? It's been the mainstream news for two weeks that Tampa is talking to gruden. Who gives a crap?

Gruden takes ut job or he doesn't. He takes the Tampa job or doesn't.

Why say what we already know as new info. Because a "insider" said it. If you can't be much more specific, this is all about attention. Creating doubt with known hurdles in hiring gruden at this specific time is bs. Spill it with specifics or keep it your self. Otherwise, it's so vague and bleeds ego boosting
 
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Anyone got a feel for what's happening on TOS?

Anything fun?

This place is a nightmare right now, everyone should just chill. Go to bed and reconvene in the morning.
 
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I agree with this..... but DTOs post all of a sudden giving us a new obstacle here at the last minute seems to come at very strange time and also convenient time if you want to have a reason to say that your 100% confidence was right but you need wiggle room

I have less hope today than I ever did and must say I look for us now to hire Frost

No offense but do you always whine ? Why cant you form an opinion without someone telling how to feel. Read whats out there and make an educated decision.
 
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I am here because I want Gruden as our next coach but I am on the learning side of that equation and not on the blind following side .... Many good people have their doubts ...

This is the boat I'm in. I'm trying to stay detached and use my head this time instead of my heart like last time.
 
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And his QB camp. He won't be able to run that if he were coach at Tennessee. Pretty sure that would be an NCAA violation, but per the Corona contest he is obligated to do it next spring. I'm sure there is a workaround for that tho.

Unless a future Hall of Fame QB and Corona agreed to terms.
 
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I would put more stock in VN insider info if I knew how close to the circle of power they really were. As it is, you have have to take their opinions and impressions as they come and give them as much weight as you see fit.

I wonder how close our top insider really is? 3rd hand info maybe? I will say I really give credence to Atlanta VOL and it is my belief that RockTopSC is very reliable and informative.

Atlanta Vol has still been silent, correct? I think, or hope, that we'd hear from him if something has potentially changed.

I'm just trying to keep my hopes up.
 
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I will State a fact to you. I know nothing. And my source on that is everyone I know. The people who are “in the know “ on here probably don’t know what’s in their fridge. If they did and they told you it was from 7 days ago and they couldn’t tell you who told them.

Interesting take, however, incredibly hard to follow. 6/10 for less than desirable flow of storyline.
 
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Yikes. Tough crowd in here tonight. For the people who are bringing information they’ve heard and believe to be of importance, I️ know there are many who appreciate what you bring.. don’t understand the pitchforks in here, these guys are bringing what they’re hearing, no one is claiming to be John Currie himself.

This same thing happened in 2012...when we didn't get Gruden a bunch of whiny *****es all went off on DTO and Boro like it was their fault that we missed out when all they did was bring info that they were getting and try to keep us in the loop and some of us are thankful that they are bringing what info they share.
 
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