Official Gruden Thread 39

[ClintStoerner]

So I was just sent this from a family member who is at Beaty Chevrolet this morning. It’s a Corvette C7 Z06. They’re either trolling or know something... it’s an $80,000 car.

Juicy Grumor

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Yeah...that reasoning worked great with the last two coaches we hired.

Edit: Sorry if that came off snarky...didn't mean to. Just my opinion.

Neither of the last 2 coaches did it at P5 schools.

 

[OSVolFan]

They cannot announce Mullen (Most likely imo), Patterson (possible but not super likely) or Norvell (vomit, not likely I HOPE) without first tempering fan expectations.

Enjoy reading alternative view points, but serious questions..

If we have the ability, and are likely to pay SERIOUS money to our next head coach and staff, are we really prepared to spend 6+M for Mullen? Seems 6M or more could get you so much more.

Also, why even mention the likes of Norvell? I guess the way I feel is either we are swinging a big stick or we aren't. Not sure why the discussion always goes to the bottom of the barrel so quickly.....

FTR - I am 100% Gruden until Currie tells me otherwise.

 

[robbymoore94]

This kind of stuff goes on. Help me out here and i will help you out later.

It really makes sense after reading multiple people in different places say that the Haslam's are tight with Sexton. IF you believe the power shift narrative, this could be a way to appease people loosing their power hold. In most negations, concessions are made to make the side not getting their desired outcome feel like they have won a little.

 

[bcartervol98]

If we go from being willing to pay out big for Gruden and drop to he bottom of the barrel with Mullen without even attempting to go after Patterson, Peterman, Franklin, or Harbaugh with the big money, then Tennessee is still Tennessee and will continue to be mediocre at best.

Patterson yes, a HUGE yes. Not sure if the smoke about him contacting UT is real but I hope it is.

Peterman threw 5 interceptions in the first half this weekend, not sure we want him. (LOL jk) Peterson is not reality imo but would be irresponsible not to contact him

Franklin is another huge YES for me but very unattainable. He is where he wants to be

Harbaugh is another unknown asset but not largely realistic imo.

Sure I would take ANY of these over Mullen but I am speaking in terms of who I think would be a long term success AND are attainable for us at this time.

 

[luthervol]

A name isn't a home run hire, a home run hire is someone who comes in and wins ball games and championships...No matter what that name may be.

A home run hire is one that puts 80,000 + at the Spring Game, causes an instant spike in ticket requests, and causes 4 and 5 stars to seek you out. A home run hire is one that's recognized immediately as such. If you have to wait for the results to evaluate the hire, then by my definition, it's not a home run hire.

 

[BJWeeks]

I nearly wretch everytime I hear any of those four names mentioned in reference to this job.

What about Tee or Jim bob

 

[Vol_4_Life94]

Disagree, respectfully. This thought that Gruden is the only person that can bring UT back to relevance among a large portion of the fan base can and probably has had adverse effect on the search process imo

Then why not come out and say something before it gets to this point. This is the part that I do not understand unless you have him

 

['Boro-vol]

Neither of the last 2 coaches did it at P5 schools.

I understand the difference. But they each were touted as having lower level success, and people suggested widely that it would translate to the SEC.

Obviously there is a difference.

 

[tlester3672]

BC just said JG will parachute into the stadium during halftime of the Vanderbilt game wearing nothing but an orange tie, whilst guzzling a bottle of gentleman jack and playing the solo to stairway to heaven one handed on a makeshift guitar made of the old blue and orange beer barrell from the UK series!

You forgot the flamethrower I mentioned a few threads back!!

 

[vol.E]

If it's not Gruden, this fanbase will not recover for a long, long time. There will be fractured support for whoever the new coach is. That would be Currie's or Gruden's fault (or both) for stringing this out so long. It it is Gruden, then no problem. I'm on the Gruden train, even if it leaves town. Just can't stand any more mediocrity or disappointment. Enough is enough.

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I agree with you here on the disappointment. But people need to realize that Gruden may simply NOT WANT THE JOB. Regardless if UT offers him $20 mil and changes the name of the Tennessee river to the Gruden river.

I hope that isn't the case...but...

 

[Los-Osis]

To quote a country song "I am here for the Party!" LOL

I am not going to bash anyone, say their beliefs are stupid or use any abbreviations for vulgar slams like some. Just want to join in because, regardless, this is the most entertaining thread in VN history and has passed 2012 and is about to lap it!

I agree whole heartedly .

 

[Behr]

So I was just sent this from a family member who is at Beaty Chevrolet this morning. It’s a Corvette C7 Z06. They’re either trolling or know something... it’s an $80,000 car.

That is....

Awesome!

 

[cwells52]

Thanks for stating the obvious. Do you think that was profound? Do you think people don't care if the person wins when they get here?

Someone stated that Harbaugh is a home run hire, if he comes in and loses 6 games is that a home run or a name hire? Thanks for caring tho :hi:

 

[allstar34bd]

So I was just sent this from a family member who is at Beaty Chevrolet this morning. It’s a Corvette C7 Z06. They’re either trolling or know something... it’s an $80,000 car.

No disrespect ... buuuut he backed out and I sold him a New 2018 GMC Sierra @ Bill Smith Buick GMC

 

[KingtUT]

Enjoy reading alternative view points, but serious questions..

If we have the ability, and are likely to pay SERIOUS money to our next head coach and staff, are we really prepared to spend 6+M for Mullen? Seems 6M or more could get you so much more.

Also, why even mention the likes of Norvell? I guess the way I feel is either we are swinging a big stick or we aren't. Not sure why the discussion always goes to the bottom of the barrel so quickly.....

FTR - I am 100% Gruden until Currie tells me otherwise.

It will take at least 6 to get Mullen and in my opinion he will be worth it.

Especially If people think Gruden is worth 10

 

[UTVolinExile]

Did you do an evening update last night?

 

[andywilson001]

For me, that is a great parallel. The people who think that being an 8-win coach at State directly translates to being a (dsisppointing) 8-win coach at Tennessee are as hopelessly lost as the people saying that Gruden was a .500 coach in the NFL, so he won't succeed at Tennessee.

NFL Gruden and Tennessee Gruden are playing two entirely different games. State Mullen and Tennessee Mullen are, at the very least, playing with two different hands.

MSU is at a terrible disadvantage in the sense of competing with a bigger instate school, terrible location, competing with Bama, Auburn, and LSU annually, and limited resources. Tennessee is the state's flagship program, has an improving instate talent base, unlimited resources, and a much more attractive physical location. And they currently compete in an easier division.

The idea that Mullen can't show better results with more/better resources is a little silly. He's done more at MSU, and against stiffer competition, than any other coach there in the last 35 years. He has five 8-win seasons in nine years. Before him, you have to go back to 1982 to come up with five 8-win seasons.

Said the same about Butch at Cincinnati.

"Imagine what he could do with Tennessee's resources"

5 years later: 0-6 in the SEC, fired mid season

 

[midtnvol2]

Hold Tag says "Gruden."

Do you honestly think that a loosely laid tag dropped on a car and photographed is legit?? lol:lol:lol:

 

['Boro-vol]

What about Tee or Jim bob

Sure....but it's not happening.

Besides, do we really want to give the job to somebody that hasn't been a long term, successful coordinator and has never been a HC...even if they used to wear Pantone 151?

 

[superdave1984]

Disagree, respectfully. This thought that Gruden is the only person that can bring UT back to relevance among a large portion of the fan base can and probably has had adverse effect on the search process imo

If anyone thinks that only Gruden can do the job, then those folks really need to wake up. There are other guys who can do the job. Whether they would take the job is the question. There's a long list of coaches who could.

That being said, UT needs the splash. We need the instant energy that comes with it. We need the name recognition that brings recruits. Gruden brings those things, but there are other names that would as well. Maybe not the names that we speculate.

 

[BearCat204]

Then why not come out and say something before it gets to this point. This is the part that I do not understand unless you have him

Either malpractice or he hasn't said no

 

[76vol]

Yesterday I posted the story I was being told about Gruden, but accidentally left out one part.


Evidently Gruden's quarterback camp stuff is part of Madden 18. This supposedly complicates a UT contract to some degree and was having to be worked out. I'm assuming it has to do with NCAA rules also. Maybe this has been mentioned before and I missed it.

I certainly do not know if any of this is true, but it does seem a realistic possibility.

 

[Stoked]

No disrespect ... buuuut he backed out and I sold him a New 2018 GMC Sierra @ Bill Smith Buick GMC

Seems legit to me.

 

[Air_Force_Vol27]

So THIS is where we're getting that John Harbaugh "reached out to UT"? A writer in Cleveland, TN with a tweet that says UT and Harbaugh are on a crash course. That says NOTHING about Harbaugh reaching out.

It was brought up a few weeks ago and JAV said he had heard about it but couldn't confirm at the time