Official Gruden Thread 39

[VolFreakJosh]

Could not agree more!

If Mullen gets another raise & extension after this season, you’re possibly looking at around 7-8 Million to hire a coach who has a losing record in the SEC.

Our Administration cant be this stupid for even giving this in consideration.

 

[VolFan32]

To clarify the pic I posted, the Hold Tag says "GRUDEN."

 

[volforlife98]

So THIS is where we're getting that John Harbaugh "reached out to UT"? A writer in Cleveland, TN with a tweet that says UT and Harbaugh are on a crash course. That says NOTHING about Harbaugh reaching out.

His name was floated weeks ago as being interested in the job. Way before Butch was fired.

 

[WB4LBJ_4_UT]

the Hold tag says GRUDEN

Tells me two things:

1- I need a better monitor
2- troll at work

 

[Paper_Towel]

Look at the name under ‘HOLD’ lol

What does it say??? Can't see it

 

['Boro-vol]

Look at the name under ‘HOLD’ lol

Aaaahhh...ham-fisted troll job by Beaty Chevrolet.

 

[DenverVol01]

Mullen is a 9-4 coach at Tennessee. At Best. Not OK with that anymore.

Betting it won't be Mullen. Sounds like he's getting a raise and extension and I think that's exactly what his wife wants. Just my $0.02.

 

[Ten_Titans]

So I was just sent this from a family member who is at Beaty Chevrolet this morning. It’s a Corvette C7 Z06. They’re either trolling or know something... it’s an $80,000 car.

If I worked at a car dealership, I would put that sticker on there. That's a good one.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Doyle, the proof of the error in your thinking is this: expectation management.

The UT administration are not dumb, and they're not blind. They know that the fan base are excited about Gruden. And they know that disappointment from not getting Jon will be a powerful, and maybe destructive, reaction. Far, far better to dissipate that reaction early than late. Do not give it time to grow further. And especially do not allow it to come just when the announcement of the real coach is being made.

They know all that.

They haven't said a word.

That's as close as you can get to proof that Gruden is still in play. He may be a lock, or it may still be a negotiation, but it is certain that he's still in play.

No question about it.

They're not going to come out and say he didn't accept the offer, so them not saying a word so far proves absolutely nothing.

 

[VFL92]

okay, sorry for the ugly quotes here, but the quote button is out of commission at the moment, so here's a line of quotes you and i had last night:

you said:
Honestly I’m still at 50/50. A lot of things are in play but I really feel if it doesn’t work it is on him not us. I also believe that if it is not him that we will be ok. I am honestly not worried at this point in the process.

I asked:
okay, just to kick back and forth, by "we will be okay" do you mean a mullen, campbell, norvelle type hire?

you replied:
I would not be pleased with those names. I don’t think they will give us what we need. I think we need a statement hire to show we mean business.

now you are saying mullen would be "a solid hire."
so, he'd be a solid hire, but one you'd not be pleased with, one that would not give us what we need.

i'm confused. not trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand.

Sorry preacher, you're confusing me with someone else. I never said any of those quotes. You can check my post history if you think I'm off-base. :hi:

 

[cncchris33]

Pretty comparable to Franklin at Vandy. What's he done at PSU?

For me, that is a great parallel. The people who think that being an 8-win coach at State directly translates to being a (dsisppointing) 8-win coach at Tennessee are as hopelessly lost as the people saying that Gruden was a .500 coach in the NFL, so he won't succeed at Tennessee.

NFL Gruden and Tennessee Gruden are playing two entirely different games. State Mullen and Tennessee Mullen are, at the very least, playing with two different hands.

MSU is at a terrible disadvantage in the sense of competing with a bigger instate school, terrible location, competing with Bama, Auburn, and LSU annually, and limited resources. Tennessee is the state's flagship program, has an improving instate talent base, unlimited resources, and a much more attractive physical location. And they currently compete in an easier division.

The idea that Mullen can't show better results with more/better resources is a little silly. He's done more at MSU, and against stiffer competition, than any other coach there in the last 35 years. He has five 8-win seasons in nine years. Before him, you have to go back to 1982 to come up with five 8-win seasons.

 

[Face]

If we hire Mullen then Currie flat out lied to boosters when he said "Big, Expensive and Explosive".

Grounds for termination imo

Your trust in that statement from Rutherford is WAY too high.

 

[BearCat204]

So I was just sent this from a family member who is at Beaty Chevrolet this morning. It’s a Corvette C7 Z06. They’re either trolling or know something... it’s an $80,000 car.

Trollolololololol

 

[VolFanHenry]

I am 'Boro-Vol, not Google.

Saucy...I like it.

 

[LAVol1]

I like CP at Washington, Venables wouldn't make me wretch. Les Miles would be worthy....a lot of people poo-poo that idea, but he did nothing but win 10-11 games, compete for the SEC and win a Natty. He knows the SEC landscape. With a worthy set of coordinators he could be special here. He's certainly more accomplished than Mullen and the rest of the squad of mediocrity.

You make a compelling argument, but if he's that good, why hasn't some quality program reached out to him before now? I like Miles, think the kids love to play for him. IMO, he's almost a carbon copy of Fulmer--conservative hard-nosed coach, quality person, kind of guy you want your kid to play for. But, like Fulmer, sadly, his time has passed. And, he can't compete with Saban. That, unfortunately, is where the bar rests.

 

[Coastypop]

Everyone has their own opinion and I certainly have mine and also agree that they should be allowed to have theirs...

Having said That: I refuse to entertain any other candidate for head coach at the University of Tennessee as long as Gruden is in play.... and I see no evidence nor do I hear any that indicates (other that some posters speculation) that Gruden is out!

Gruden to the HILL!

 

[BearCat204]

What does it say??? Can't see it

It says "Soon MFer"

 

[bcartervol98]

I hope you're wrong, otherwise TN is looking at another decade of irrelevant mediocrity.

Disagree, respectfully. This thought that Gruden is the only person that can bring UT back to relevance among a large portion of the fan base can and probably has had adverse effect on the search process imo

 

[UT PaulVol]

Sure, we'd all get on board with Harbaugh. But let's use some common sense, folks. Harbaugh is in the midst of trying to make the playoffs in the NFL right now. Do you REALLY think he's going to quit mid-season and become the head coach at UT? Currie said we'll have a coach by Dec. 20 or UT will have a new AD.

We'd all love it, but come on. There's a higher chance Brady Hoke is the HC next year.

Speaking of dates, I did overhear (many times) Dec. 10th being thrown around. I was never really part of the convo just kept hearing that date. I’m really hoping we don’t have to wait that long but I’m assuming that’s the deadline that’s been given.

 

[JoshsVols]

Hold Tag says "Gruden."

Great advertising, will get their name out there as soon as it hits social media

 

[KingtUT]

100% agree. It has been allowed to progress to Grunden or Bust status. Why in the world would that be allowed? Only one answer makes any sense.

I guess the university of Tennessee should be able to control the thoughts and opinions of the fan base? Its not like the university has done anything to make the fans think its Gruden and only Gruden. The AD said he wasn't going to say anything until the hire is made and that's exactly the way it should be. His job isn't to shoot down every ridiculous rumor that comes out. Just saying.

 

['Boro-vol]

For me, that is a great parallel. The people who think that being an 8-win coach at State directly translates to being a (dsisppointing) 8-win coach at Tennessee are as hopelessly lost as the people saying that Gruden was a .500 coach in the NFL, so he won't succeed at Tennessee.

NFL Gruden and Tennessee Gruden are playing two entirely different games. State Mullen and Tennessee Mullen are, at the very least, playing with two different hands.

MSU is at a terrible disadvantage in the sense of competing with a bigger instate school, terrible location, competing with Bama, Auburn, and LSU annually, and limited resources. Tennessee is the state's flagship program, has an improving instate talent base, unlimited resources, and a much more attractive physical location. And they currently compete in an easier division.

The idea that Mullen can't show better results with more/better resources is a little silly. He's done more at MSU, and against stiffer competition, than any other coach there in the last 35 years. He has five 8-win seasons in nine years. Before him, you have to go back to 1982 to come up with five 8-win seasons.

Yeah...that reasoning worked great with the last two coaches we hired.

Edit: Sorry if that came off snarky...didn't mean to. Just my opinion.

 

[Paper_Towel]

It says "Soon MFer"

*SOON OR GTFO intensifies*

 

[RockCityVol]

Everyone has their own opinion and I certainly have mine and also agree that they should be allowed to have theirs...

Having said That: I refuse to entertain any other candidate for head coach at the University of Tennessee as long as Gruden is in play.... and I see no evidence nor do I hear any that indicates (other that some posters speculation) that Gruden is out!

Gruden to the HILL!

Very well said. Smack me in the face then I will believe otherwise.

 

[andywilson001]

So I was just sent this from a family member who is at Beaty Chevrolet this morning. It’s a Corvette C7 Z06. They’re either trolling or know something... it’s an $80,000 car.

Definitely trolling...