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Pete Carpet said:
Good morning Queen Sugarvol of East Ridge. As your trusted servant I must warn you. The world history books or full of fallen crowns. What the history books don't tell you is they all didn't deliver on the Gruden ancestry.
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Good morning, Pioneer Pete.
 
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rjd970 said:
Why is it telling?

Has Gruden denied any other opening he’s been rumored to?

Has Currie denied any other candidates?

The only reason it is “telling” is because people want to believe it. Again, I would love Gruden here, but objectively speaking I’m just not seeing it.
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It is called expectation management, RJD. And its absence can be very telling indeed.

Put yourself in John Currie's shoes. You are in the middle of making the most important decision of your tenure as AD. Decades from now, your reputation will be defined by what choice you made here.

You know that. You also know that a significant portion of the fan base are really, really--no, I mean really--excited at the possibility of Jon Gruden.

Each day is an opportunity to manage those expectations. To take the sting away now, let the disappointment dissipate, so that it's not a sudden and potentially violent tidal wave on the day you announce.

Managing expectations isn't just a coping mechanism for the AD's personal benefit, though. It is also the right thing to do for the next coach. If he's not Gruden, you gotta manage those expectations early, or you're setting him up for failure with the fan base from Day 1. It is also the right thing to do for Jon Gruden and his family, if he's not coming. Including a son who is a UT student, on campus now.

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So yeah...the lack of comment from Currie is significant. I agree with you that Gruden's silence can not be read in any particular way, but the UT administration's silence is telling.


p.s. Good morning, everyone. :hi:
 
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VFLnSFD said:
Except in 2012 he publicly stated a no on Mike and Mike. And his agent publicly stated no after talks ended. So, in fact, there is tremendous precedent.
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I don’t know if he did or not in 2012. I do know he isn’t denying ANY job right now. Currie isn’t saying anything about ANY candidate right now. If it is “telling” then it is “telling” for every candidate and every job out there. The quiteness from both sides isn’t unique at all.
 
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rjd970 said:
I don’t know if he did or not in 2012. I do know he isn’t denying ANY job right now. Currie isn’t saying anything about ANY candidate right now. If it is “telling” then it is “telling” for every candidate and every job out there. The quiteness from both sides isn’t unique at all.
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I'm telling you that he did. I was here. I remember it vividly. The fact that hasn't happened is, in fact, telling as there is a precedent for it.
 
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rjd970 said:
Why is it telling?

Has Gruden denied any other opening he’s been rumored to?

Has Currie denied any other candidates?

The only reason it is “telling” is because people want to believe it. Again, I would love Gruden here, but objectively speaking I’m just not seeing it.
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The only reason I feel like it's telling is because of how out of control some people are getting out there when it comes to the Gruden phenomenon. At this point, I feel that if it isn't Gruden, a lot of our non sensible fans, and there are a lot of them out there, will go bonkers. So to do justice to the next HC, if it isn't Gruden, I feel one of them needs to come out and say so. Otherwise, there will be a division in the fanbase and that's not a good thing to have when you get a new guy on board. The reason I say that it's telling is because neither Currie nor Gruden are morons. So clearly they see this potentially occurring too. Thus, with not one but BOTH of them saying nothing, I feel that is a telling sign. But we shall see.
 
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rjd970 said:
I don’t know if he did or not in 2012. I do know he isn’t denying ANY job right now. Currie isn’t saying anything about ANY candidate right now. If it is “telling” then it is “telling” for every candidate and every job out there. The quiteness from both sides isn’t unique at all.
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He's been more public about Tennessee in nearly every way other than saying "I'm giving my all for Tennessee and will be the nxt HC"
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
It is called expectation management, RJD. And its absence can be very telling indeed.

Put yourself in John Currie's shoes. You are in the middle of making the most important decision of your tenure as AD. Decades from now, your reputation will be defined by what choice you made here.

You know that. You also know that a significant portion of the fan base are really, really--no, I mean really--excited at the possibility of Jon Gruden.

Each day is an opportunity to manage those expectations. To take the sting away now, let the disappointment dissipate, so that it's not a sudden and potentially violent tidal wave on the day you announce.

Managing expectations isn't just a coping mechanism for the AD's personal benefit, though. It is also the right thing to do for the next coach. If he's not Gruden, you gotta manage those expectations early, or you're setting him up for failure with the fan base from Day 1. It is also the right thing to do for Jon Gruden and his family, if he's not coming. Including a son who is a UT student, on campus now.

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So yeah...the lack of comment from Currie is significant. I agree with you that Gruden's silence can not be read in any particular way, but the UT administration's silence is telling.


p.s. Good morning, everyone. :hi:
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That is, again, a lot of conjecture. We’ll see I guess. I want Gruden as much as the next guy and there may be reasons it makes sense he would be coming here. But silence certainly isn’t unique to this situation.

Good morning to you too.
 
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TeacherVol007 said:
The only reason I feel like it's telling is because of how out of control some people are getting out there when it comes to the Gruden phenomenon. At this point, I feel that if it isn't Gruden, a lot of our non sensible fans, and there are a lot of them out there, will go bonkers. So to do justice to the next HC, if it isn't Gruden, I feel one of them needs to come out and say so. Otherwise, there will be a division in the fanbase and that's not a good thing to have when you get a new guy on board. The reason I say that it's telling is because neither Currie nor Gruden are morons. So clearly they see this potentially occurring too. Thus, with not one but BOTH of them saying nothing, I feel that is a telling sign. But we shall see.
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There's only two ways this ends...

Currie and Gruden are instant heros or they'll be hated forever. A lot of the reason Peyton will never be a coach at UT
 
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rjd970 said:
That is, again, a lot of conjecture. We’ll see I guess. I want Gruden as much as the next guy and there may be reasons it makes sense he would be coming here. But silence certainly isn’t unique to this situation.

Good morning to you too.
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It is only conjecture for those of us outside John Currie's head.

For him, there's nothing soft or undefined about it. Just cold, hard facts of the situation. He either knows he has Gruden, or he knows he needs to nip the Grudemania in the bud. There are no other logical choices, if you're wearing John's skin.

And that's why his silence is telling.
 
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