Official Greg Schiano thread

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Volsfaninva917 said:
I think Greg is a fantastic, defensive minded football coach with a blue collar attitude. However I worry about what kind of fit he would be here having never really coached in the south. I just don't think it would work, you can take a great coach and put him in the wrong environment and have a disaster. Reference the Dave Serrano situation here, great coach but a horrible fit.
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Nick Saban had the same concerns taking the LSU job.

Intresting how similar the two are.

Has to do with being in Belichick's close inner circle of friends with Urban Meyer and Nick Saban. The 4 of them are close! And respect each other's opinion's and learn from each other.

And don't worry about him recruiting in the South. Schiano has great ties in Florida & is a force recruiting in Miami area. Tennessee needs those south Florida boys.
 
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vols1707 said:
Once again...... We don't know the situation and what absolutely happened with Schiano at Penn State.

How about let Currie do his job and investigate this?

Not just "he did that!!!"
If Currie finds out it was nothing he would win BIG at Tennessee.

But how about we let the people doing the hiring and writing the check investigate this?

A very real possibility he is the next HC at Tennessee.
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The fact Schiano would even be considered casts serious doubt about Currie's capacity to perform his duties. Kelly and Petrino have too much baggage, yet Currie is warming up to a guy who may have made it possible for dozens more children to be brutally raped? It's unspeakable. If Currie interviews Schiano, he should be fired immediately.

If Schiano is hired, recruiters at other SEC schools wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't bring a copy of that newspaper article to every recruits house for whose services they are competing with Tennessee. UT's reputation is already suffering for being linked to Schiano. It will only get worse. How many people will show up to support a head coach who ignored seeing an old man raping a young boy in the shower, which resulted in the old man continuing to victimize many more children? Surely we're better than that as a fan base. Surely we aren't that desperate to win. Let Schiano stay right where he is. Meyer shielded Hernandez and is now providing safe harbor for Schiano. Let's not sink to that level.

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peytonmanningwoo said:
The fact Schiano would even be considered casts serious doubt about Currie's capacity to perform his duties. Kelly and Petrino have too much baggage, yet Currie is warming up to a guy who may have made it possible for dozens more children to be brutally raped? It's unspeakable. If Currie interviews Schiano, he should be fired immediately.

If Schiano is hired, recruiters at other SEC schools wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't bring a copy of that newspaper article to every recruits house for whose services they are competing with Tennessee. UT's reputation is already suffering for being linked to Schiano. It will only get worse. How many people will show up to support a head coach who ignored seeing an old man raping a young boy in the shower, which resulted in the old man continuing to victimize many more children? Surely we're better than that as a fan base. Surely we aren't that desperate to win. Let Schiano stay right where he is. Meyer shielded Hernandez and is now providing safe harbor for Schiano. Let's not sink to that level.
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Dude your still taking one side of a story as absolute fact..... not even considering what Schiano has said.

Not going to discuss this with someone who uses children that were abused as a tug at the heart strings to try and make a point. When you don't even know the facts......

Classless.

Don't do that to yourself let Currie investigate this. Don't just sling mud
 
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vols1707 said:
Dude your still taking one side of a story as absolute fact..... not even considering what Schiano has said.

Not going to discuss this with someone who uses children that were abused as a tug at the heart strings to try and make a point. When you don't even know the facts......

Classless.

Don't do that to yourself let Currie investigate this. Don't just sling mud
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It is sworn testimony from a source so reliable a man got an effective life sentence from it.

Sandusky denies McQueary too, do you believe him?
 
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vols1707 said:
Dude your still taking one side of a story as absolute fact..... not even considering what Schiano has said.

Not going to discuss this with someone who uses children that were abused as a tug at the heart strings to try and make a point. When you don't even know the facts......

Classless.

Don't do that to yourself let Currie investigate this. Don't just sling mud
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You are morally bankrupt. You have a win at all costs mentality. Pull for Ohio State. Tennessee fans are better than that.

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Wii60 said:
It is sworn testimony from a source so reliable a man got an effective life sentence from it.

Sandusky denies McQueary too, do you believe him?
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Your talking one story on Schiano vs multiple confirmed reports on Sandusky and the true POS there.

All I'm saying is let Currie investigate. Not just say any of us know for certain about Schiano.

And if it is true..... what if he did approach someone? And if he didn't and it's true I'm out too...

But we don't know.... let people do their jobs to investigate this
 
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vols1707 said:
Your talking one story on Schiano vs multiple confirmed reports on Sandusky and the true POS there.

All I'm saying is let Currie investigate. Not just say any of us know for certain about Schiano.

And if it is true..... what if he did approach someone? And if he didn't and it's true I'm out too...

But we don't know.... let people do their jobs to investigate this
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It’s not some news report. It’s testimony from a court proceeding where only one guy was brave enough to come forward.

I hear you, I do. I’m a big believer in not going on witch hunts but this is more than just some guy on the street.

Also, Currie can’t investigate. He doesn’t have the power to supeona and interview witnesses. There’s no way for this to come together in a way that a Blue Blood program can hire him right now.
 
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I think this is your problem. You are conflating being convicted of a crime with being hired for a job. If there were even a 20% chance Schiano is innocent, he shouldn't be convicted of covering up what happened at Penn State. There is reasonable doubt.

If you are pulled over for drinking and driving and then the charges are dropped when you go to court, the mere appearance of impropriety is still enough to get you fired or to prevent you from being hired. The same burden of proof does not exist, especially in the competitive world of college football recruiting.



vols1707 said:
Your talking one story on Schiano vs multiple confirmed reports on Sandusky and the true POS there.

All I'm saying is let Currie investigate. Not just say any of us know for certain about Schiano.

And if it is true..... what if he did approach someone? And if he didn't and it's true I'm out too...

But we don't know.... let people do their jobs to investigate this
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Wii60 said:
It’s not some news report. It’s testimony from a court proceeding where only one guy was brave enough to come forward.

I hear you, I do. I’m a big believer in not going on witch hunts but this is more than just some guy on the street.

Also, Currie can’t investigate. He doesn’t have the power to supeona and interview witnesses. There’s no way for this to come together in a way that a Blue Blood program can hire him right now.
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I know I was talking about investigating Schiano himself. Talk with him, friends, family, and other coaches. And make a judgement on Schiano based on that.
 
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vols1707 said:
I know I was talking about investigating Schiano himself. Talk with him, friends, family, and other coaches. And make a judgement on Schiano based on that.
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Besides the pedophile enabling what about giving up 55 to Iowa w his self proclaimed " better than any DL he ever had in the NFL " u know the exact same offense that 7 days later could manage 66 yards TOTAL !
 
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thegasman54 said:
Besides the pedophile enabling what about giving up 55 to Iowa w his self proclaimed " better than any DL he ever had in the NFL " u know the exact same offense that 7 days later could manage 66 yards TOTAL !
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What does that have to do with his ability as a Head Coach?

If Tennessee is looking at Schiano as a DC that would be relevant.

Tennessee is looking at him as a head coach so how about looking at that?

There have been plenty of good coordinators that have been average HC's
McElwayne and Dan Mullen are two good ones to look at that are good OC's and average HC's

Schiano is a proven EXCELLENT HC.
 
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vols1707 said:
What does that have to do with his ability as a Head Coach?

If Tennessee is looking at Schiano as a DC that would be relevant.

Tennessee is looking at him as a head coach so how about looking at that?

There have been plenty of good coordinators that have been average HC's
McElwayne and Dan Mullen are two good ones to look at that are good OC's and average HC's

Schiano is a proven EXCELLENT HC.
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Uh his supposed expertise is on Defense ... u do know this right ?

And if he were an EXCELLENT HC , he would BE a hc not a DEfensive coordinator right now ... but he isn't , why do you think that is ?
 
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thegasman54 said:
Uh his supposed expertise is on Defense ... u do know this right ?

And if he were an EXCELLENT HC , he would BE a hc not a DEfensive coordinator right now ... but he isn't , why do you think that is ?
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Then you just don't understand football if you don't understand the difference in having complete control over a team or being an assistant on a team.
 
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Schiano was definitely a top candidate for multiple jobs since getting fired from Bucs. For Pitt and Wisconsin (2014) and then for USC, UCF and Miami in 2015, prior to getting the Ohio St. DC job and then last off-season (2016) for the USF and Oregon jobs.

Former Rutgers coach Greg Schiano impresses in Miami interview, per report | NJ.com

Greg Schiano an answer in Pittsburgh search for football coach, athletic director?

Offered two jobs this past off season:
Why Greg Schiano Decided to Stay at Ohio State | Eleven Warriors

A quick history on Schiano:
OhioStateBuckeyes.com Greg Schiano Bio :: The Ohio State University Official Athletic Site The Ohio State University Official Athletic Site :: Football

Article Advocating for him to get a Head Coaching Job:
Sullivan: Schiano on coaching carousel, deserves a stop

Now the Penn State Stuff:
Schiano and Bradley were interviewed and were on a preliminary witness list in the Sandusky trial but were not called because the state had made its case against Sandusky without their testimony and they were still building their case against Graham Spanier (former Univ Presidient) and Time Curley (former AD) and did not want to tip their hand. This article does state prosecutors believed McQuery to be credible however in his claims that Bradley and Schiano “as coaches how he believed had suspicions about Sandusky.”

http://www.pennlive.com/news/2016/07/why_didnt_prosecutors_call_tom.html

Schiano ‘s denial.

http://onwardstate.com/2016/07/12/schiano-bradley-completely-refute-mcqueary-allegations/

Bottom line, right now. McQueary ‘s comments are purely hearsay and cannot likely be proven or disproven.
We Report. You Decide
 
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I said it earlier. We hired a guy who lost to Dooley. Now some people want to hire a guy who lost to the guy who lost to Dooley. Let me speak more clearly: butch put up 69points on Schiano in league play.

Now I know that in the grand scheme of things it’s a minor point, but For all the criticism Butch (and I am no Lyle defender) took for getting blown out by Dooley- now people want to hire a guy who got blown out by Butch.
 
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1)68-67 at Rutgers
2)28-48 in the Big East (37 percent win percentage)
3)After he "turned the corner" with that 11-2 2006 team, his record was 16-19 in the big east.
4)In his eleven years at Rutgers not once did they play a strength of schedule greater than 50th in the nation. His average SOS was 69.
5)30 of his 40 non conference wins came against teams from non-BCS conferences. In case you can't math that's 44 percent of his wins at Rutgers.

The above isn't opinion, it's fact. There is zero way in hell you can look at that and rationally view Schiano as a good option.
 
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I just don't understand, with all of the candidates out there, why anyone would want to pursue a coach that could even possibly be linked to a scandal of this magnitude.
 
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DaddyChad said:
1)68-67 at Rutgers
2)28-48 in the Big East (37 percent win percentage)
3)After he "turned the corner" with that 11-2 2006 team, his record was 16-19 in the big east.
4)In his eleven years at Rutgers not once did they play a strength of schedule greater than 50th in the nation. His average SOS was 69.
5)30 of his 40 non conference wins came against teams from non-BCS conferences. In case you can't math that's 44 percent of his wins at Rutgers.

The above isn't opinion, it's fact. There is zero way in hell you can look at that and rationally view Schiano as a good option.
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Totally concur. Don't want no Schiano. :bad:
 
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DaddyChad said:
1)68-67 at Rutgers
2)28-48 in the Big East (37 percent win percentage)
3)After he "turned the corner" with that 11-2 2006 team, his record was 16-19 in the big east.
4)In his eleven years at Rutgers not once did they play a strength of schedule greater than 50th in the nation. His average SOS was 69.
5)30 of his 40 non conference wins came against teams from non-BCS conferences. In case you can't math that's 44 percent of his wins at Rutgers.

The above isn't opinion, it's fact. There is zero way in hell you can look at that and rationally view Schiano as a good option.
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Take out his first 4 years there having to recruit players that he needed to win then look at the numbers.

Tampa Bay didn't hire him as their HC based on the total record

It was based on what he built it to
 
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vols1707 said:
Take out his first 4 years there having to recruit players that he needed to win then look at the numbers.

Tampa Bay didn't hire him as their HC based on the total record

It was based on what he built it to
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Read #3. Outside of one season he is totally unremarkable. He took a terrible team and made them mediocre in the big east. Most of his career wins are padded with cupcake wins, 44 percent outside of the crappy conference schedule he played against.
 
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vols1707 said:
Take out his first 4 years there having to recruit players that he needed to win then look at the numbers.

Tampa Bay didn't hire him as their HC based on the total record

It was based on what he built it to
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Butch Jones 69
Greg Schiano 38
 
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