Official Greg Schiano thread

Take out the Washing Post article and lets focus on his coaching record. It is not impressive! He would have been an unmitigated disaster here and that is a fact. If he was the coaching genius that ESPN made him out to be then all other P5 coaching vacancies would be beggging for him. The fact that they aren’t speaks volumes about his coaching acumen,
 
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It's interesting, many of you defended AJ Johnson and victim blamed, but criticize Schiano. Someone was just TOLD Schiano saw something, he didn't actually see Schiano see it. Big difference. We can (and it looks like we will) do a lot worse than Schiano.

Let me remind you, AJ Johnson raped a woman. Don't give me any "he isn't guilty yet" crap after already finding Schiano guilty in your minds off hearsay.

AJ was arrested.

Schiano was rejected by fans/boosters.

Terrible analogy
 
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It's interesting, many of you defended AJ Johnson and victim blamed, but criticize Schiano. Someone was just TOLD Schiano saw something, he didn't actually see Schiano see it. Big difference. We can (and it looks like we will) do a lot worse than Schiano.

Let me remind you, AJ Johnson raped a woman. Don't give me any "he isn't guilty yet" crap after already finding Schiano guilty in your minds off hearsay.

BVS has affected your reasoning.
 
AJ was arrested.

Schiano was rejected by fans/boosters.

Terrible analogy

AJ was arrested and accused.
Sehiano was associated with a scandal at Penn State.
Neither should be allowed to be associated with UT given our recipient history.

We, at UT, need to have a zero tolerance policy with anyone associated in any way with a sexual scandal for the foreseeable future
 
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AJ was arrested and accused.
Sehiano was associated with a scandal at Penn State.
Neither should be allowed to be associated with UT given our recipient history.

We, at UT, need to have a zero tolerance policy with anyone associated in any way with a sexual scandal for the foreseeable future

I agree.
 
He should've been arrested. She should be rotting in prison. Don't you remember? He was accused, that's all we need.

Big difference in sending someone to prison and not paying them millions of dollars. Not sure you get that.
 
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I think the Penn State connection, especially with the sworn accusation, will haunt Schiano as a recruiter for the rest of his career. I don't know if he is guilty or innocent of that accusation. But I guarantee that Kirby and Dabo and Nick would bring it up to every recruit that might consider Tennessee. I don't know why anyone would want a coach who had to overcome that stigma in every recruiting battle. Mammas don't care about the legal standard of proof. They just see smoke, and it raises doubt. It isn't fair. But it would affect his ability to do his job.
 
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If there is a lesson here for Schiano in my opinion it’s clear your damn name and leave no doubt. Until he does that it will always hang over him.
 
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Come on guys, don't resurrect this thread. This guy is so awesome, remember? He's gonna be on every school's list. No way we can get such a vaunted name.
 
If anyone thought Les was worth a damn, he would have gotten hired already.

How do you know Les just hasnt been holding out for the right job? Dont answer that because its rhetorical.

So no proof that Miles is worse than Schiano? Thats what I thought. Class dismissed.
 
I want this thread to stay up until we see if anyone else hires Schiano. If he doesn’t get hired by anyone else, everyone who said we were stupid for rejecting him can eat s***.

He’s not a good coach.

No one wants him.
 
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I want this thread to stay up until we see if anyone else hires Schiano. If he doesn’t get hired by anyone else, everyone who said we were stupid for rejecting him can eat s***.

He’s not a good coach.

No one wants him.

Doesn't Ohio State want him?:popcorn:
 
I didn't want him either, I've made it clear who I want. Both on here and to Fulmer through a message with his secretary. I'm just saying, all the defenses of AJ Johnson before and now this.

Are you suggesting we hire AJ Johnson? He’s been charged with rape! :eek:hmy:
 
I think the Penn State connection, especially with the sworn accusation, will haunt Schiano as a recruiter for the rest of his career. I don't know if he is guilty or innocent of that accusation. But I guarantee that Kirby and Dabo and Nick would bring it up to every recruit that might consider Tennessee. I don't know why anyone would want a coach who had to overcome that stigma in every recruiting battle. Mammas don't care about the legal standard of proof. They just see smoke, and it raises doubt. It isn't fair. But it would affect his ability to do his job.

Good summation.
 
Nope, we use the Schiano standard. It was alleged so it must be true. I don't dispute he isn't a home run coach, I simply hate how his name was connected to the PSU scandal because someone told Mcqueary that Mcqueary had no direct knowledge of.

First thing I do when these potential coach names get thrown out I don't recognize (the PSU was a long time ago, eh?) is the same thing everyone does - google what I know about them. So, highlight the line below and do a search on it.

Schiano fired Tampa Bay Buccaners

Here's the first article I got.

Greg Schiano loses Tampa Bay Buccaneers with autocratic style - NFL.com


..."TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS

Published: Oct. 24, 2013 at 09:48 a.m.
Updated: Oct. 25, 2013 at 05:00 a.m.
Greg Schiano loses Tampa Bay Buccaneers with autocratic style

Michael Silver
NFL.com columnist

TAMPA, Fla. -- Greg Schiano arrived with a bang, ticking off Tom Coughlin in just his second game as an NFL coach and unrepentantly puffing out his chest in response.

Barring a shocking and almost inconceivable turnaround during his second season of running the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' ultra-tight pirate ship, he'll likely leave with a whimper, dashing back to college football during or after the conclusion of this miserable campaign.

With an 0-7 record in 2013 and 12 defeats in his past 13 games dating back to last November, Schiano is underperforming in an unforgiving industry, which is reason enough for the Glazer family to fire him. Yet this coaching faceplant transcends losing.

As the Bucs stew in the aftermath of a 31-13 loss to the Carolina Panthers on NFL Network's "Thursday Night Football," it's abundantly clear that Schiano and the NFL are as poor a fit as Yasiel Puig and the NLCS, on so many levels. Most glaringly, the autocratic Schiano operates with an inherent deficit of respect, both for America's preeminent sports league and for the men he's trying to lead.

And yes, you'll notice I used the word men. That's because I've spoken to enough people who've played for Schiano during his two NFL seasons to conclude that he treats his players like children, which is a major reason he has lost his locker room.

"How bad is it there? It's worse than you can imagine," says one NFL player who spent 2012 with the Bucs. "It's like being in Cuba."

Several current Bucs players describe a similarly bleak environment in which the all-powerful, unyielding Schiano spews tone-deaf platitudes while demonstrating the personal charm of "Homeland" character Nicholas Brody.

None of this is a surprise to people in NFL scouting circles, who came to dread their visits to Rutgers when Schiano was coaching there from 2001 to 2011. As I wrote last September, such encounters were, in the words of one NFC personnel executive, "pure misery."...

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There's more. Look up "Schiano Man"

So a resounding NO! I did not want Schiano.
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On to the Penn State stuff.

Given. In court hearsay is disallowed.

I'm not a juror in court.

The judge allowed the following testimony, and did not have it stricken from the record.

McQueary's willingness to stand up and give testimony led to the uncovering of what was going on.
Google that and you get headline after headline after headline of news accounts referencing the recently unsealed court records of McQueary's testimony when asked about what other employees knew.

Like this one.

Former Rutgers coach Greg Schiano was aware of Sandusky allegations, court documents say | NJ.com

Former Rutgers coach Greg Schiano was aware of Sandusky allegations, court documents say

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McQueary -- who testified during Sandusky's trial that he had seen Sandusky in a shower with a boy in 2001 -- said he had discussed what he saw with Bradley, and Bradley, according to McQueary, was "not shocked" and said he "knew of some things" involving Sandusky."...sic..."Here is the direct question-and-answer session between McQueary and Paul Gagne, the lawyer representing Pennsylvania Manufacturers Association Co. over reimbursement for civil settlements paid to 32 people who presented themselves as Sandusky victims, that pertains to Schiano:

Q: "Did he tell you that he had information concerning Gerald Sandusky and children?''

McQueary: "He said he knew of some things.''

Q: "And did he tell you what he knew of?''

McQueary: "Yeah.''

Q: "What did he tell you?''

McQueary: "He said another assistant coach had come to him in the early '90s about a very similar situation to mine, and he said that he had -- someone had come to him as far back as the early '80s about seing Jerry doing something with a boy.''

Q: "Did he identify who the other coaches were that had given him this information?''

McQueary: "The one in the early '90s, yes.''

Q: "And who was that?''

McQueary: "Greg Schiano.''

Q: "Greg Schiano?''

McQueary: "Yes.''

Q: "And did he give you any details about what Coach Schiano had reported to him?''

McQueary: "No, only that he had -- I can't remember if it was one night or one morning, but that Greg had come into his office white as a thost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower. And that's it. That's all he ever told me.''

Q: "Did he tell you what, if anything, he had done about that.

(Following an objection) McQueary said: "No, he didn't share that with me."...
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At the time it all broke, Schiano refused to comment.

When the records were unsealed, Schiano and Bradley finally said it didn't happen.

Bradley and Schiano would now lose their positions in NCAA CF if they admitted Schiano knew and did nothing. They have everything to lose by that.

I'm NOT a juror sitting in a court of law. I can look at the material before me and make my own decision. In this instance I choose to believe the man who had the courage to stand up and be counted in a court of law under oath. Not Schiano or Bradley.
 
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