Official Gramps' Memorial Eternal OT Thread

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Yall see what happened last night when Jake Paul finally fought a boxer his own size ? Joshua knocked him down in 3 different rounds, knocked him out in the 6th with his jaw broken in 2 places.

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I cant stand Jake but have to give him credit...i never thought he would actually make it to the fight. Also give him crwdit for getting up off the canvas twice. Joshua is a killer though. Was a title contender 5 years ago. Paul is a punk but I have to give credit to him for going 6 rounds with a murderer. Search "Anthony Joshua knockouts" on youtube. He has a lightning fast right hand that puts people to sleep.
 
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Orangeburst said:
I had my uvula removed many years ago..before being put under, I asked the surgeon if I would still be able to uvulate.

Told a buddy that other night and he laughed, Dr not so much.
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Before a surgery - can't remember if it was rotator cuff or heart, I asked the doc if I'd be able to play my bagpipes after surgery. He fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

My normal doc was listening to my heart one day when I went in for a normal checkup. I told him I was in A-fib, and he definitely agreed. He said "You just ain't got no rhythm." My answer was any musical instrument I've ever tried to play would completely agree - no reason why my heart would be any better synchronized.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Bama vs Indiana is very intriguing to me. Bama is likely the lowest remaining seed after tomorrows games at #9 but they are very dangerous. If Indiana can actually beat them...it would be the 3rd time this year that IND beat a team with a roster talent ranked top10 and theirs is ranked 72nd. If they beat Bama they are legit and may win it all. Winning at ORE and beating OSU is impressive. If they can beat this Bama squad then they're definitely legit. What do yall think about IND being favored by 6pts over the gumps?? I think a lot of $$$ is gonna come in on bamas side and that line is gonna move.

Edit: OSU roster rank 3...ORE is 5. Our VOLS roster is 16th. IND is 72

14 (!!!) Of the top 25 most talented rosters are SEC schools. Only UK and Vandy fall outside the top25 and UK is like 27th. The big10 only has 6 teams ranked top25 compared to our 14.

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I guess it's part of my perverse nature; but as much as I despise Bama, I hope they beat IN like a drum. I just don't like the idea of a championship playoff - demeans the rest of the year and absolutely trashes bowl games as a reward to guys who worked hard all season. There are too few games and too little opportunity during the season to really rank football teams (they don't get around), and now teams have no incentive to play a real season because it could ding the chances for getting into the playoff. So I'll root for a three loss team like Bama to upset the people who believe that a non-existent sample size really means anything, and point out the idiocy of a conference championship game was what put Bama into the 3 loss category. In fact, I'll go farther and hope that a 3 loss team wins the playoff just to ruffle feathers of all the people who think the CFP has any meaning at all ... other than a chance to gouge more people in the name of "entertainment".

With the incestuous nine game conference schedule - especially in the big10 where a couple of teams spend the season beating up their little sisters - there's almost no chance of good OOC games. The football season really falls into the category that like life "it's all about the journey, and not about a destination".
 
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hog88 said:
The fact G5 teams are in the playoffs cheapens the entire system. The SEC needs to withdraw from this farce.
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Valid opinion.

Imagine being Vandy. Go 10-2 in the SEC, with a heistman finalist dirtbag QB. Best season and team from Vandy in over 50 years and your last game is a 21pt beating on Tennessee at Neyland which may never happen again literally ever. They STILL leave you out of the playoffs and instead put a SECOND G5 school in the tournament instead of you. Then BOTH G5 schools of course get skulldrug by 40 points in the 1st round like everyone knew they would. Texas also went 6-2 in the SEC this year and was more deserving of a playoff spot than the G5 schools...because theyre a better team and like Vandy would beat down either of those G5 schools.

All the rest of the playoff games should be decent. This format sucks though. It should be the best 16 teams. No byes for anyone, ever. No auto bids. No ND unless they join a P4 conference in football (they already play an ACC basketball schedule. Its redamndickulous that theyre allowed to NOT do so in other sports.)
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Valid opinion.

Imagine being Vandy. Go 10-2 in the SEC, with a heistman finalist dirtbag QB. Best season and team from Vandy in over 50 years and your last game is a 21pt beating on Tennessee at Neyland which may never happen again literally ever. They STILL leave you out of the playoffs and instead put a SECOND G5 school in the tournament instead of you. Then BOTH G5 schools of course get skulldrug by 40 points in the 1st round like everyone knew they would. Texas also went 6-2 in the SEC this year and was more deserving of a playoff spot than the G5 schools...because theyre a better team and like Vandy would beat down either of those G5 schools.

All the rest of the playoff games should be decent. This format sucks though. It should be the best 16 teams. No byes for anyone, ever. No auto bids. No ND unless they join a P4 conference in football (they already play an ACC basketball schedule. Its redamndickulous that theyre allowed to NOT do so in other sports.)
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Reality is Vandy still wouldn’t have gotten in.
ND and Texas would have
Edit: maybe BYU.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I’m good with either.
Do away with or they’re irrelevant to the CFP.
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Yep. But the current scenario where b10 fans are gonna be squawking that the SECG loser shouldn't be in the playoff with that extra loss because....random other b10 team OR ND should be in is ridiculous. B10 fans have SEC penis envy syndrome so bad that they dont really care WHO makes the playoffs as long as an SEC team that should be in doesnt...

As I recently posted in here 14 out of 16 SEC teams have roster talent ranked in the top 25 and Kentucky is 27th. Its not black magic or Jedi mind tricks that SEC teams are far more athletic, bigger, and faster than B10 teams on average. Its that old mysterious Southern trade known regionally as "Recruiting".

I looked and its also a misnomer that IND roster is #72 in talent. Thats technically true but slanted greatly because half their team was never ranked at all in HS...no star ratings...but IND got them all from the portal before last season or before this season when they had already produced at other schools. So on paper, it looks like they manage to pull off the impossible and beat 2 teams already this season whose rosters are top5 in talent by the 247 composite in ORE and OSU while their roster is 72nd. In reality, they beat 2 very talented teams built primarily of highly rated HS players with a roster that is overwhelmingly made up of portal transfer players who are proven producers and older than the rosters from the other 2 schools. They are the best example ever of using proven guys from the portal to beat talented but inexperienced players from HS. They also managed to have probably the best QB in FBS this year which helps greatly, and obviously have good coaches on both sides of the ball...for now. Cignetti isnt going anywhere but those Coordinators on both sides of the ball will be head coaches elsewhere soon.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Yep. But the current scenario where b10 fans are gonna be squawking that the SECG loser shouldn't be in the playoff with that extra loss because....random other b10 team OR ND should be in is ridiculous. B10 fans have SEC penis envy syndrome so bad that they dont really care WHO makes the playoffs as long as an SEC team that should be in doesnt...

As I recently posted in here 14 out of 16 SEC teams have roster talent ranked in the top 25 and Kentucky is 27th. Its not black magic or Jedi mind tricks that SEC teams are far more athletic, bigger, and faster than B10 teams on average. Its that old mysterious Southern trade known regionally as "Recruiting".

I looked and its also a misnomer that IND roster is #72 in talent. Thats technically true but slanted greatly because half their team was never ranked at all in HS...no star ratings...but IND got them all from the portal before last season or before this season when they had already produced at other schools. So on paper, it looks like they manage to pull off the impossible and beat 2 teams already this season whose rosters are top5 in talent by the 247 composite in ORE and OSU while their roster is 72nd. In reality, they beat 2 very talented teams built primarily of highly rated HS players with a roster that is overwhelmingly made up of portal transfer players who are proven producers and older than the rosters from the other 2 schools. They are the best example ever of using proven guys from the portal to beat talented but inexperienced players from HS. They also managed to have probably the best QB in FBS this year which helps greatly, and obviously have good coaches on both sides of the ball...for now. Cignetti isnt going anywhere but those Coordinators on both sides of the ball will be head coaches elsewhere soon.
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Announce the CFp bracket before the CCG and it’s irrelevant. Or play 10 minutes quarters so it’s not an official game. Either way it should not factor into the CFP
 
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Slice, hog, and marcus all are making great points. As much as I despise Bama and would absolutely hate for for them to have another "crown" to crow about, I'll hope for Bama to win the CFP this year just to illuminate what a farce the whole system is. My "support" for Bama probably damns them, so there is that at least.

Marcus has a great point that IN's "subpar" team is not in anyway meaningful because of the talent pulled in from the portal - just another misleading measure used to make one team seem aberrantly great and especially the coach seem a genius when it's more about infusing portal talent than tactical coaching genius. There's a lot of poor ranking coming from erroneous strength of schedule and overrated wins (as usual), and it completely skews the CFP invites and placement. ATM's wins vs schedule seems to have caught up with them as one measure of that. Even looking at SOS (as seen by ESPN) it would appear that some teams like IN and ND, for example, are gifted stronger schedules than they actually played.
 
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AM64 said:
Slice, hog, and marcus all are making great points. As much as I despise Bama and would absolutely hate for for them to have another "crown" to crow about, I'll hope for Bama to win the CFP this year just to illuminate what a farce the whole system is. My "support" for Bama probably damns them, so there is that at least.

Marcus has a great point that IN's "subpar" team is not in anyway meaningful because of the talent pulled in from the portal - just another misleading measure used to make one team seem aberrantly great and especially the coach seem a genius when it's more about infusing portal talent than tactical coaching genius. There's a lot of poor ranking coming from erroneous strength of schedule and overrated wins (as usual), and it completely skews the CFP invites and placement. ATM's wins vs schedule seems to have caught up with them as one measure of that. Even looking at SOS (as seen by ESPN) it would appear that some teams like IN and ND, for example, are gifted stronger schedules than they actually played.
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The entire SOS system is a complete farce because the B10 teams are ranked artifically high other than the 4 good teams. Even those 4 good teams benefit from that false ranking and inflated SOS value though. OSU PSU ORE ...none of those teams play more than 2 games in 2026 or 2027 vs teams that recruit/talent level in the top 25. REAL ranked teams. Teams who actually have talented rosters because they recruit and get good players from HS (or the portal for that matter).All the top 4 or 5 teams in the big10 have to do to make the playoffs is not lose to an unranked b10 team. They can drop both their games to the only good teams on their schedules which actually recruit...beat the 10 unranked...finish 10-2 or better and theyre in. Its ridiculous.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Yup.
12-16 teams
No special consideration.
Ranked seating……


And maybe……
Conference championship games are played after the CFP bracket is set.



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8 teams. there are pretty much never 12 teams that have a chance, yet alone deserve it. if you can't even be top ten you don't deserve a shot. no special considerations.
 
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LouderVol said:
8 teams. there are pretty much never 12 teams that have a chance, yet alone deserve it. if you can't even be top ten you don't deserve a shot. no special considerations.
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I’m good with that but honestly ND who I hate could have won the whole thing at 12 and Bama can still win it at 9. 8-16 adds one game and if you’re a championship team you should be able to win that game.

Basically you have to rank based on the entire season but I also recognize that some teams can get their shot together later in the season and I’m a fan of who was the best at the end instead of who was the best on average over the whole year. 8 might leave that team out. 12-16 with no special consideration doesn’t
 
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If that kills the rest of the bowls then so be it. The bowl system was never that great to begin with.
If anything we should switch to a basket ball type system. Have the CFP and the NIT. The mat covers 32 teams. If small schools want to have a “bowl game “ because they failed to make the 32 then let them schedule something on their own
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I’m good with that but honestly ND who I hate could have won the whole thing at 12 and Bama can still win it at 9. 8-16 adds one game and if you’re a championship team you should be able to win that game.

Basically you have to rank based on the entire season but I also recognize that some teams can get their shot together later in the season and I’m a fan of who was the best at the end instead of who was the best on average over the whole year. 8 might leave that team out. 12-16 with no special consideration doesn’t
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my issue is where do you draw the line on giving free passes or "weighted considerations" to the early season? game 1 only? 2 games, 3 games etc.

same thing at the end of the season teams are beat up, and considering the bye weeks have a chance to get healthy and maybe return to form.

far too subjective imo to give preference to the back end. everybody had an early season. everyone has injuries.

I definitely think there needs to be only be one CFP ranking. too much of what they do is sitting there trying to justify past rankings or getting in team A over team ND. no initial rankings, just once at the end.
 
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hog88 said:
The fact G5 teams are in the playoffs cheapens the entire system. The SEC needs to withdraw from this farce.
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Here's the thing. P4 or G5 are both D1-A. And there are rules to allow them in if they qualify. For it to be a legit playoff you can't bar them just cause they're G5. You can't create their own playoff either. What do you do with FCS.
 
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LouderVol said:
my issue is where do you draw the line on giving free passes or "weighted considerations" to the early season? game 1 only? 2 games, 3 games etc.

same thing at the end of the season teams are beat up, and considering the bye weeks have a chance to get healthy and maybe return to form.

far too subjective imo to give preference to the back end. everybody had an early season. everyone has injuries.

I definitely think there needs to be only be one CFP ranking. too much of what they do is sitting there trying to justify past rankings or getting in team A over team ND. no initial rankings, just once at the end.
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I’m on board with your rankings plan
 
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@Freak

did you add a new function for quoting and replying, or am I an idiot?

I have always quoted or replied by clicking the buttons down at the bottom of the post. but I just accidentally discovered you can highlight parts of the text and it pops up with a quote/reply option to just that selected text.

either way, mind blown.
 
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