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BigOrangeTrain said:
Graph desigend on Barts computer is on its way.
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That graph was from the National Snow and Ice Data Center’s most recent update. The source was also on the figure. Anyway, I’ll take your non-answer as a tacit admission of guilt vis-à-vis cherrypicking.

I do have some more graphs for ya though:

Global Temperatures Continue To Surge In Record-Breaking October
How hot was October globally? It was not merely the hottest October — by far — in the 135-year temperature record of NASA (see chart above). Or the hottest October — by far — in the 125-year temperature record of the Japan Meteorological Agency (JMA):

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It was the highest anomaly — the highest divergence from the mean temperature — ever recorded in the 1,600-month temperature record of NASA.

Why is it so hot? On top of the long-term warming trend caused by man-made carbon pollution is the short-term warming caused by a very strong El Niño. This is the biggest event since the super El Niño of 1997-1998 — and it may even turn out bigger

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Significantly, the 12-month running mean global temperature tends to lag the Niño 3.4 region temperature by four months, as a 2010 NASA study explained. If NOAA is right that the Niño 3.4 region won’t peak until early winter, the record for the hottest 12-month period would probably not be set until spring 2016.

That means 2016 has a very good chance of beating the record 2015 is about to set.
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Sandvol said:
That's not what I said. That's what Dr. Richard Muller said. Mann tried to deceive the public and other scientists. Bad scientist.
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Well I quoted you saying it, and I don't recall you citing Richard Muller. Can you provide a link? And was that before or after Richard Muller converted to the dark side? Speaking of, it looks like another famous Richard is going the way of Muller...

Even a noted climate contrarian is now worried about global warming
Sandvol said:
Here it is Bart. UAH has been acknowledging the warming since 1983. They just say it is much less than IPCC models.
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Progress! You’ve finally accepted that UAH has a warming trend. It’s on the low end of IPCC model projections, sure, but it’s also on the low end of measurements. Now will you go so far as to agree that UAH has a warming trend even since 2000?

[Remember though, UAH hasn’t always shown a warming trend. Back in the ‘90s Spencer and Christy were predicting global cooling (kind of like you are 20 years later…)]
 
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BartW said:
:birgits_giggle:

Well I quoted you saying it, and I don't recall you citing Richard Muller. Can you provide a link? And was that before or after Richard Muller converted to the dark side? Speaking of, it looks like another famous Richard is going the way of Muller...

Even a noted climate contrarian is now worried about global warming

Progress! You’ve finally accepted that UAH has a warming trend. It’s on the low end of IPCC model projections, sure, but it’s also on the low end of measurements. Now will you go so far as to agree that UAH has a warming trend even since 2000?

[Remember though, UAH hasn’t always shown a warming trend. Back in the ‘90s Spencer and Christy were predicting global cooling (kind of like you are 20 years later…)]
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Progress, Geez, you don't pay attention. Spencer and Christie have been saying the warming is much less than IPCC models or surface data and man's contribution is small. I disagree, I think man's contribution is insignificant. However, they do say there is currently a pause.
 
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BartW said:
:birgits_giggle:

Well I quoted you saying it, and I don't recall you citing Richard Muller. Can you provide a link? And was that before or after Richard Muller converted to the dark side? Speaking of, it looks like another famous Richard is going the way of Muller...

Even a noted climate contrarian is now worried about global warming

Progress! You’ve finally accepted that UAH has a warming trend. It’s on the low end of IPCC model projections, sure, but it’s also on the low end of measurements. Now will you go so far as to agree that UAH has a warming trend even since 2000?

[Remember though, UAH hasn’t always shown a warming trend. Back in the ‘90s Spencer and Christy were predicting global cooling (kind of like you are 20 years later…)]
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Who keeps liking your posts? You must log in with another account and like your own posts :eek:lol:
 
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BartW said:
:birgits_giggle:

Well I quoted you saying it, and I don't recall you citing Richard Muller. Can you provide a link? And was that before or after Richard Muller converted to the dark side? Speaking of, it looks like another famous Richard is going the way of Muller...

Even a noted climate contrarian is now worried about global warming

Progress! You’ve finally accepted that UAH has a warming trend. It’s on the low end of IPCC model projections, sure, but it’s also on the low end of measurements. Now will you go so far as to agree that UAH has a warming trend even since 2000?

[Remember though, UAH hasn’t always shown a warming trend. Back in the ‘90s Spencer and Christy were predicting global cooling (kind of like you are 20 years later…)]
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Well you conveniently forgot that I linked his youtube lecture about Mann.
 
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Sandvol said:
Not according to UAH.
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Yes, even according to UAH. NOAA's new data shows hottest October, too. It's unanimous
Sandvol said:
Well you conveniently forgot that I linked his youtube lecture about Mann.
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I vaguely remember Muller’s Nature trick to hide the decline video. Is that what you’re referring to? If so, that was indeed before he actually began studying climate change (i.e. back when he was speaking out of his ass). I wonder how much he regrets that now. Talk about taking quotes out of context…

On a related note, Judith Curry (who briefly worked on Muller's BEST project) is unfortunately sliding in the opposite direction of Muller. She recently regurgitated that thoroughly debunked denier meme, losing what little modicum of respect she still had. Michael Mann, on the other hand, is better-known and better-regarded than he ever would have been without the defamation. The hockey stick has been reproduced dozens of times since his work in the ‘90s. It isn’t remotely controversial anymore (among scientists, anyway…)
 
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.1 degree increase. Is it too late to head to Mongolia where those giant arks are being built so humanity can ride out the climate shift depicted in the John Cusack joint "2012"?

/sarcasm
 
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Senate Votes to Block Obama’s Climate Change Rules

Republicans make second bid to weaken Obama's hand at Paris climate talks


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BartW said:
Republicans are becoming the party of climate supervillains

Republican Party leaders have often argued that the United States shouldn’t take action to curb its carbon pollution unless China and other countries do as well.

Now these countries are working to reach an international agreement in which all cut their carbon pollution, and Republican leaders are trying to undermine it. It’s as though they’re just looking for excuses to prevent the United States from reducing its fossil fuel consumption. As Jonathan Chait wrote,

"In any case, the old conservative line, with its explicit or implicit promise that international agreement to reduce emissions might justify domestic emissions cuts, has suddenly become inoperative. The speed at which Republicans have changed from insisting other countries would never reduce their greenhouse-gas emissions to warning other countries not to do so — without a peep of protest from within the party or the conservative movement — says everything you need to know about the party’s stance on climate change."
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yup
 
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Bart.... Since you know everything there is to know about global warming, will you tell us all about the ice ages and how the earth warmed to melt them away?..... Before man even dreamed of an internal combustion engine
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Both weak and lame
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Yes, the "climate has changed before" argument is both weak and lame. It's true, but it has no bearing on whether human activities are presently causing global warming. Non sequitur: it does not follow. Just like BOT's quote below.
BigOrangeTrain said:
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2015/1...tback-ancient-tropical-forest-found-in-norway

"Continents shift, temperature rise and fall. And man has absolutely nothing to do with it. What arrogance, what presumption -- and mostly, what greed!

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My satire was spot on, lol. But here's the serious answer to Carl's question.

Your article is about research that indicates a drop in atmospheric CO2 led to a drop in global temperature. Mr. Walsh's commentary makes no sense. Why would you interpret this as evidence against climate change?
 
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