Official Global Warming thread (merged)

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MG1968 said:
so?
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The divestment movement is picking up steam and leaders, particularly of religious groups, are increasingly framing climate change as a moral issue. I think that’s a positive step. Science has done its job describing the situation. How we respond is ultimately up to values and morals.
 
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BartW said:
The divestment movement is picking up steam and leaders, particularly of religious groups, are increasingly framing climate change as a moral issue. I think that’s a positive step. Science has done its job describing the situation. How we respond is ultimately up to values and morals.
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They also believe in burning bushes that talk.
 
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BartW said:
Enlighten us already oh wise SandVol. I'm waiting to see if you think what I think you think

:question:
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No, I wouldn't want to deprive you of the challenge of figuring it out. It really isn't rocket science. Mostly just reading comprehension.
 
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I tell you what Bart. Why don't you tell me what you think I think and I'll tell you if you're correct?
 
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Sandvol said:
I tell you what Bart. Why don't you tell me what you think I think and I'll tell you if you're correct?
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But then it won't be as fun when I mock your hubris :)

You launched the unsubstantiated offensive. Back it up! I am giving you the opportunity to go first. Blow my mind and claim intellectual victory.

If you do keep dragging this out, I will eventually tell you what I think you think and why you're wrong.
 
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BartW said:
But then it won't be as fun when I mock your hubris :)

You launched the unsubstantiated offensive. Back it up! I am giving you the opportunity to go first. Blow my mind and claim intellectual victory.

If you do keep dragging this out, I will eventually tell you what I think you think and why you're wrong.
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I don't need to. It is too obvious like the hair at the end of your nose.
 
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KentheOrange said:
Why is that concerning? Do you think they will run out of seawater?

They are not running out of options. They still have all the options they have always had along with the poor management skills not to implement them.

There are ways of fixing the problem but none they can finish implementing tomorrow, and they would take funds away from the bullet train to nowhere.
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I thought one of the global warming worries was desalination of the ocean. With Cali pulling fresh water out of the ocean, thereby making it saltier, won't that solve the problem of the ocean currents reversing and all?
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
I thought one of the global warming worries was desalination of the ocean. With Cali pulling fresh water out of the ocean, thereby making it saltier, won't that solve the problem of the ocean currents reversing and all?
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Please wait while Bart shakes his al gore magic eight ball
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
I thought one of the global warming worries was desalination of the ocean. With Cali pulling fresh water out of the ocean, thereby making it saltier, won't that solve the problem of the ocean currents reversing and all?
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No, it's that whole ocean acidification thing even though CO2 levels are near historical lows.
 
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BartW said:
The divestment movement is picking up steam and leaders, particularly of religious groups, are increasingly framing climate change as a moral issue. I think that’s a positive step. Science has done its job describing the situation. How we respond is ultimately up to values and morals.
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Are they divesting because of climate change? Or because they think mining coal and tar sands is incredibly destructive to the local environment and it goes against their message of being "good shepards"?
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
I thought one of the global warming worries was desalination of the ocean. With Cali pulling fresh water out of the ocean, thereby making it saltier, won't that solve the problem of the ocean currents reversing and all?
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Not sure if you are serious or not. We really need a sarcasm font for this site.

All desalination does is help nature out in the distribution of fresh water. Fresh rainwater is the result of evaporation of seawater and fresh water that then falls back to earth and eventually goes back to the ocean and dilutes the salt once again.
 
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Sandvol said:
No, it's that whole ocean acidification thing even though CO2 levels are near historical lows.
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Oh no, the poles will melt causing a massive change in the salinity (what drives the great ocean currents like the gulf stream) which in turn stops or even reverses them. This will create the post warm up ice age that will freeze everyone north of Miami in about 36 hours. Didn't you watch Day After Tomorrow? It was a global warming bastion of information and fact.
 
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KentheOrange said:
Not sure if you are serious or not. We really need a sarcasm font for this site.

All desalination does is help nature out in the distribution of fresh water. Fresh rainwater is the result of evaporation of seawater and fresh water that then falls back to earth and eventually goes back to the ocean and dilutes the salt once again.
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Oh, I thought the whole thread was sarcastic, my bad. Quick synopsis in the past above.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Oh no, the poles will melt causing a massive change in the salinity (what drives the great ocean currents like the gulf stream) which in turn stops or even reverses them. This will create the post warm up ice age that will freeze everyone north of Miami in about 36 hours. Didn't you watch Day After Tomorrow? It was a global warming bastion of information and fact.
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I could only watch about the first ten minutes of it. I guess I deprived myself.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Oh, I thought the whole thread was sarcastic, my bad. Quick synopsis in the past above.
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Don't disagree with that at all. I normally peruse this thread for entertainment and limit my replies to the most egregious (in my opinion) posts that totally defy logic and reason. I do have to exercise some control or I would spend entirely too much time replying to several of the regular posters.
 
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Sandvol said:
No, it's that whole ocean acidification thing even though CO2 levels are near historical lows.
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BS.

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From NOAA.
 
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Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures - Telegraph

Last month, we are told, the world enjoyed “its hottest March since records began in 1880”. This year, according to “US government scientists”, already bids to outrank 2014 as “the hottest ever”. The figures from the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) were based, like all the other three official surface temperature records on which the world’s scientists and politicians rely, on data compiled from a network of weather stations by NOAA’s Global Historical Climate Network (GHCN).

But here there is a puzzle. These temperature records are not the only ones with official status. The other two, Remote Sensing Systems (RSS) and the University of Alabama (UAH), are based on a quite different method of measuring temperature data, by satellites. And these, as they have increasingly done in recent years, give a strikingly different picture. Neither shows last month as anything like the hottest March on record, any more than they showed 2014 as “the hottest year ever”.
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