Official Global Warming thread (merged)

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BartW said:
These financial institutions are warning against risky fossil fuel investments because they know some sort of regulation is inevitable. But we could cut emissions through legislation without loaning specific companies billions (Solyndra) or favoring one industry over another (nuclear)…

The Conservative Case for a Carbon Tax
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Look, there is no problems favoring one industry over another. The government has been doing it for years. But as a minimum, before someone goes running out with a checkbook, they really do need to slow down and do a bit of research before throwing billions at an company like Solyndra. Here's the problems as I see them...

The environmental crowd needs to understand, as a whole, that it will take decades to ween our economy off fossil fuels. What has been built in decades will not be dismantled and replaced in a few years. And that's everything from your gas lawn mover to coal fired power plants.

The environmental crowd needs to understand the EPA can (and is) causing more harm than good by amassing power it shouldn't rightfully have. I like Tweety Bird and Bugs Bunny and all, but they have no right to come onto my private property and declare it wetlands or any other nonsense. Unless they are paying the bills and taxes on said property, they don't have that right and can bite my butt. And the environmental crowd alienates those very same people by cheering on the EPA when they do.

The environmental crowd needs to stop looking for problems in each and every alternative energy source. I've listed them time and time again and the "problems" that arise not long after they go into mainstream use. You want us off fossil fuel sources for power? Stop whining about migratory birds getting smacked around by the wind turbines you wanted in the first place.

The environmental crowd also needs to understand that until alternate energy engines come down in price, people will continue buying gas vehicles and motors. I applaud Elon Musk for breaking the mold on electric vehicles, but they still are a novelty and still too expensive for most Americans. And until they are priced comparably with gas vehicles, they are spinning their wheels. (both figuratively and literally) People don't care about tax credits, they care about the figure following the "$" symbol on the sticker in the window.

There's just a few things off the top of my head with my first cup of coffee that needs to be cleaned up in the environmental movement before many will take them seriously.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Look, there is no problems favoring one industry over another. The government has been doing it for years. But as a minimum, before someone goes running out with a checkbook, they really do need to slow down and do a bit of research before throwing billions at an company like Solyndra. Here's the problems as I see them...

The environmental crowd needs to understand, as a whole, that it will take decades to ween our economy off fossil fuels. What has been built in decades will not be dismantled and replaced in a few years. And that's everything from your gas lawn mover to coal fired power plants.

The environmental crowd needs to understand the EPA can (and is) causing more harm than good by amassing power it shouldn't rightfully have. I like Tweety Bird and Bugs Bunny and all, but they have no right to come onto my private property and declare it wetlands or any other nonsense. Unless they are paying the bills and taxes on said property, they don't have that right and can bite my butt. And the environmental crowd alienates those very same people by cheering on the EPA when they do.

The environmental crowd needs to stop looking for problems in each and every alternative energy source. I've listed them time and time again and the "problems" that arise not long after they go into mainstream use. You want us off fossil fuel sources for power? Stop whining about migratory birds getting smacked around by the wind turbines you wanted in the first place.

The environmental crowd also needs to understand that until alternate energy engines come down in price, people will continue buying gas vehicles and motors. I applaud Elon Musk for breaking the mold on electric vehicles, but they still are a novelty and still too expensive for most Americans. And until they are priced comparably with gas vehicles, they are spinning their wheels. (both figuratively and literally) People don't care about tax credits, they care about the figure following the "$" symbol on the sticker in the window.

There's just a few things off the top of my head with my first cup of coffee that needs to be cleaned up in the environmental movement before many will take them seriously.
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The problem with the environmental movement is most of the people in the movement are just being used as tools in the statist agenda.
 
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mrorange211 said:
This is concerning, but I guess they are running out of options?
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Why is that concerning? Do you think they will run out of seawater?

They are not running out of options. They still have all the options they have always had along with the poor management skills not to implement them.

There are ways of fixing the problem but none they can finish implementing tomorrow, and they would take funds away from the bullet train to nowhere.
 
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Sandvol said:
Some people just can't see the forest for the trees.
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now i am completely lost, all i saw was a beautiful woman. completely missed the bandaid, forest and the trees. next you are going to tell there is George Washington smoking a bowl in the background. :)
 
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Sandvol said:
So you're saying it is a conspiracy? Really? That the entire scientific community conspired? Or at least you're saying dozens of scientists conspired? Is that really what you're saying?
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Dozens of scientists conspired and that means the entire peer review process is suspect. Is that so difficult to grasp?
 
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Sandvol said:
What the hell do you mean? I don't need to go on.
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Well you could’ve tried explaining your objection to trout’s post instead of just poopoo-ing it. But you’re right, you don’t need to go on. It’s honestly hard to watch. You must be embarrassing the halfway serious skeptics at this point.
Sandvol said:
Just now read your Guardian article. That's a really dumbass article. For instance, all the points Booker made about Evolution are legitimate and haven't been answered.
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Exhibit A
 
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OrangeWayOfLife said:
Oh no, that's impossible. Ask Bart or trout
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Trout is completely clueless and Bart will just link the article to the tobacco industry. Everything can be traced back to the tobacco industry and human beings. Nature has absolutely nothing to do with #globalwarmingglobalcoolingclimatechangeorwhateverthehellitsbeingcallednow.
 
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BartW said:
Well you could’ve tried explaining your objection to trout’s post instead of just poopoo-ing it. But you’re right, you don’t need to go on. It’s honestly hard to watch. You must be embarrassing the halfway serious skeptics at this point.

Exhibit A
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Well you could have read the article and read the Wiki and if you've gotten through about 5th grade you can figure it out.
 
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