Official Global Warming thread (merged)

How many effing global warming threads do you have to start? IPO hasn't even started a single one.

You're quite a curmudgeon for someone who is still wet behind the ears.

Actually there is one thread about weather, one thread about the properties of CO2 and this thread is, intended at least, to address the politics of environmentalism.

You've popped my bubble, I thought you were the master of the nuance. :focus:








He has started this exact thread before and doesn't even remember.
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Did you note the date in the link?? :search:





Corn might need back on the table but the sammich maker looks like she might have a UTI. Cranberry juice with dinner? Don't give all us WASPS a bad name brotha..

Did you note the multi million dollar earmark about breeding in cranberry bogs???

I didn't even know one could breed cranberries.

I'll never eat carnberry sauce again, yech! :scare:






GS, I'm not sure why you continue to state your case against corn ethanol when pretty much everyone that doesn't own a farm in Iowa or isn't an elected representative from a corn-growing state agrees with the points you make and has corvettes some time. I started my PhD program 5.5 years ago. I remember hearing profs railing against corn ethanol in my first few days here...and the had been doing so for a while.

I can understand pointing it out as an example of alarmism policy if you want (though I see it more as subsidy policy than alarmism policy); however, why overkill with the unneeded supporting information? Who are you trying to convince?
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For starters I'd like to see at least some talk of repealing the ehanol mandates from some legislator.

When Patrick Moore says that “'alarmism' is driving politicians to create bad environmental policies", he is right on the money.

There is no 'overkill' as long a we keep making bad public policy decisions at the urging of environmental groups and we've been doing just that for over forty years.

I just gave three good examples to illustrate that point. :zeitung_lesen:
 
http://blog.eyeblast.tv/2011/01/van-jones-environmentalism-is-really-all-about-social-justice/#

..... so the entire green movement is really just about forwarding a radical leftist agenda in order to restructure society.

http://blog.eyeblast.tv/2011/01/green-indoctrination-at-its-finest-kids-for-climate/

Climate change alarmists are really, really, good at one thing: and that’s indoctrinating children. Whether it’s playing An Inconvenient Truth in schools for young kids, to launching ridiculous videos on YouTube such as the “Story of Stuff”- they never cease to amaze.

Now, 1SkyCampaign is using kids to churn out global warming talking points, and not surprisingly, bash climate change skeptics. The 1SkyCampaign board of directors includes Van Jones, Obama’s former Green Jobs Czar, who is a self-admitted communist and 9/11 Truther.
 
I have another 2 inches of global warming laying on the ground outside my house. I've lived here all my life and i can't remember a year with this much snow.
 
I have another 2 inches of global warming laying on the ground outside my house. I've lived here all my life and i can't remember a year with this much snow.

Can't remember a year with this much snow, eh? So you are saying things have changed?*

* weather and climate are not the same thing, but couldn't resist an easy shot
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Can't remember a year with this much snow, eh? So you are saying things have changed?*

* weather and climate are not the same thing, but couldn't resist an easy shot
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Average temp have risen what 1 degree over the last couple hundred thousand years? I think we're going to make it. I'm sure Al Gore has a hot line waiting on your donation now. He might even send you a few carbon credits to heat your house with.
 
Average temp have risen what 1 degree over the last couple hundred thousand years? I think we're going to make it. I'm sure Al Gore has a hot line waiting on your donation now. He might even send you a few carbon credits to heat your house with.

We are already committed to about 1.5C with just what's in the pipeline.

We might make it, but much of the biosphere will not. We risk not making it, because our 1.5C commitment assumes we stop everything today.

No one is suggesting we stop cold, but we must start doing something.
 
We are already committed to about 1.5C with just what's in the pipeline.

We might make it, but much of the biosphere will not. We risk not making it, because our 1.5C commitment assumes we stop everything today.

No one is suggesting we stop cold, but we must start doing something.
When man starts doing more than the earth can handle mother nature will take care of you and I. This place has purged itself of nuances before and will again. Man doesn't control as much of it as you would like to believe and others may tell you. When we're doing more than it can handle it will simply get rid of us like scratching fleas off a dog. We don't control it so i'm not worried about it.
 
speaking of volcanic eruptions, check out the pictures of the current eruption occurring in Japan:

Japan raises alert following volcano's biggest eruption in 50 years | Mail Online

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Global warming: a classic case of alarmism « JoNova

The global temperature has been rising at a steady
trend rate of 0.5°C per century since the depths of
the little ice age in the 1700s (when the Thames River
would freeze over every winter; the last time it froze
over was 1804). On top of the trend are oscillations
that last about thirty years in each direction:

1882 – 1910 Cooling
1910 – 1944 Warming
1944 – 1975 Cooling
1975 – 2001 Warming
----------------------------

The IPCC predictions simply extrapolated the last
warming as if it would last forever, a textbook
case of alarmism.

akasofu_graph_little_ice-age.gif


There is no actual evidence that carbon
dioxide emissions are causing global warming.

Note that computer models are just concatenations
of calculations you could do on a hand-held calculator,
so they are theoretical and cannot be part of any
evidence. Although the models contain some well-
established science, they also contain a myriad of
implicit and explicit assumptions, guesses, and gross
approximations—mistakes in any of which can
invalidate the model outputs.
-------------------------------

Furthermore, the missing hotspot in the atmospheric
warming pattern observed during the last warming
period proves that (1) the IPCC climate theory is
fundamentally broken, and (2) to the extent that
their theory correctly predicts the warming signature
of increased carbon dioxide, we know that carbon
dioxide definitely did not cause the recent
warming
(see here for my full explanation of
the missing hotspot).

The alarmists keep very quiet about the
missing hotspot.
 
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American Thinker: The Nazi Origins of Apocalyptic Global Warming Theory

Schwab had been a strong nature lover since boyhood,
and by the 1920's he became very active in the emerging
environmental movement in Austria. Later, he joined the
Nazi Party. While this may sound odd to many who
have bought into the Marxian propaganda over
the years that the Nazis were right wing capitalistic
extremists, greens who signed up for the Nazi Party
were actually very typical of the day.
The most
widely represented group of people in the Nazi Party
was the greens, and Guenther Schwab was just one
of among many.
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Long before Al Gore's "Inconvenient Truth," green Nazi
Guenther Schwab played a large role in catalyzing the
frightening theory of global warming. With no small
thanks to Schwab, the Great Tribulation of Global
Warming was ushered into the modern consciousness
behind the collapse of the Millennial 1,000 year Third
Reich.
 
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Whether man is doing it or not, no one will do anything about it so why worry?

If brevity is the soul of wit, I'm not sure there is a shorter, more concise statement on why we richly deserve history's censure.

Thank goodness for the Jews: If not me, who?
 
Speaking of censure:

Quadrant Online - Lysenkoism and James Hansen

This conversion to honesty came too late,
however, for in the intervening years thousands
of other climate scientists had meanwhile climbed
onto the Hansenist funding gravy-train. Currently,
global warming alarmism is fuelled by an estimated
worldwide expenditure on related research and
greenhouse bureaucracy of more than US$10
billion annually.

Scientists and bureaucrats being only too human,
the power of such sums of money to corrupt not
only the politics of greenhouse, but even the
scientific process itself, should not be underestimated.

In recognition of these events, the term Hansenism
is now sometimes used to describe the climate
hysteria which had, until recently, gripped western
media sources and political, business and public
opinion in a deadly grasp.
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Lysenkoism damaged mainly Soviet science
and society, whereas Hansenism has now been
exerting its pernicious influence worldwide for
more than twenty years. The climate alarmism
involved has long been undermining the precious
public trust from which science draws its
traditional influence and sustenance, and now
Climategate has opened up new sinkholes all
over the place.

Hansenist climate alarmism has also damaged
the standing of many leading science journals
and science organizations, which have replaced
their formerly careful editorial and organizational
balance with environmental alarmism and naked
global warming advocacy.

Future historians of science are likely to judge
the 1988-2009 frenzy of climate change alarmism
as even more damaging than Lysenkoism, because
of the distrust that collapse of the global warming
paradigm has already inculcated about using science
to inform modern policy making.

There are those who will hang on the agw alarmism
like it were a childhood teddy bear they are unwilling
to part with under any circumstances.

The big question is whether the US govenment will
come to it's senses and cease and desist in the
destruction of American energy production to
achieve these alarmist goals based on false science
and hidden political philosophy??

Not under the current regime led by a CIC that
is a socialist idealogue who has appointed the
wierdest assortment of fringe characters the
world has ever seen, at least since the days
of Adolph Schickelgruber.

Adolph Hitler said it well: “When an opponent
declares, "I will not come over to your side," I
calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already...
What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants,
however, now stand in the new camp. In a short
time they will know nothing else but this new
community.”

Deprograming the youth who have been indoctrinated
in this false science their whole lives will not be an
easy task but it can be done.
 
First it was "what happened the alleged global cooling of the 70's?" Which was shown to have been a media construction not a scientific one. Now it is, "Nazis originally raised the specter of global warming."

Which is it?

It was "The Earth isn't warming, it's cooling!" Now it's, "The Earth is warming since 2001."

Which is it?
 
First it was "what happened the alleged global cooling of the 70's?" Which was shown to have been a media construction not a scientific one. Now it is, "Nazis originally raised the specter of global warming."

Which is it?

It was "The Earth isn't warming, it's cooling!" Now it's, "The Earth is warming since 2001."

Which is it?

Modern day agw theory has it's roots in naziism,
the purpose being for the state to be all powerful
and to control everything, especially energy and
land use.

The media is always touting something controversial
in order to market itself, did you read the wapo excerpt
about the arctic melting dated 1922??

The Earth has been gradually warming since the middle
of the little ice age with cycles of about 30 years in
which it warms then cools and we are not yet as warm
as it was about 8 or 900 years ago. After the previous
30 warming we are now due to see mild cooling for
about 30 years.

Alarmist claptrap about runaway warming because of
fossil fuel use is just that, alarmist claptrap.

Alarmists say the polar ice caps are melting at an
alarming rate, this just isn't true.

Construction_Crane_Buried_in_Ice.htm


In the mid 1960s, ITT built a power transmission
line in Antarctica. The transmission towers stood
115 feet tall.
As you can see in these photos, all but the top
30 feet of the towers are now buried in ice.

And the crane used to build the towers will soon
be totally covered by ice.

Not only are the power transmission towers being
buried, so are the Antarctic research stations
themselves.

The old Byrd Station has been shut down because
it is buried beneath 40 to 50 feet of ice and snow
and is slowly being crushed.

The old South Pole station is also buried beneath
the ice.

So is the old Siple station.

The current South Pole station is also slowly being
buried. A new station is now being built on top of
the ice to replace it.
 
Climate Audit

It’s therefore evident that they had, at one time,
plotted the Science 1999 spaghetti graph showing
data before 1550, but elected to delete the pre-
1550 data as well as the post-1960 data.

I presume that there is another version of this
program (with the corresponding line reading
perst=1550) that was used to generate the
figure in the Science article.

It’s odd that it isn’t in the Osborn archive.

OBAMASPRING.jpg
 

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