Official Global Warming thread (merged)

#476
#476
gsvol, I've got to say, you overdo it to the point where you shut people down and they just ignore your Adobe Photoshop, but post 233 is funny.
 
#477
#477
IPorange said:
That's not what every investigation into his work has found, despite constant scrutiny by your ilk: Penn State Live - Investigation of climate scientist at Penn State complete





You don't want to elaborate because it would undermine your knee-jerk conclusion. It takes 100 years for a carbon atom to totally cycle through to the deep ocean or lithosphere. It may leave the atmosphere relatively quickly, but it doesn't actually leave the larger cycle (it can end up right back in the atmosphere) for much longer. Otherwise, we'd struggle to have any CO2 in the atmosphere at all.
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The fact that some academians gave Mann a bye
doesn't make him any less the liar.

Mann may be a highly respected member of the PSU
faculty but hey, Ayers and Dohrn have been highly
respected academians also but that doesn't mean
they are innocent of the crimes they committed
just because they havn't been prosecuted so far.

Mann's hockey stick has been so widely and embarrassingly
discredited one whould think he would just go ahead
and retire instead of continuing to try to perpetuate
the hoax.

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We'll see if the state of Virginia or the US congress
brings him to justice.

And 95 of that hundred years is spent beneath the
ocean, not only that plants absorb a large percentage
of atmospheric CO2 and that portion may very well be
stored for thousands of years.

You couln't exist without carbon atoms.

You're ilk isn't so silky itself. :)

Michael Mann of the “hockey stick” fraud is about to be exposed..bigger than Climategate? Follow The Money

Today three Virginia taxpayers including one state lawmaker, in conjunction with the American Tradition Institute Environmental Law Center, are asking the University of Virginia to produce important ‘global warming’ records under the Commonwealth’s Freedom of Information Act.

These emails and other documents relate to claims made by Dr. Michael Mann to obtain, and claim payment under, certain taxpayer-funded grants.
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In response to a previous FOIA request, UVA had denied these records existed. But during the course of Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli’s pre-investigation under the Virginia Fraud Against Taxpayers Act (“FATA”), a 2007 law passed unanimously by Virginia’s legislature that clearly covers the work of taxpayer-funded academics, UVA dropped this stance.
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Even the UN IPCC has had to drop the promotion of Mann's so-called work.

UVA has spent upwards of a half million dollars fighting
FOIA requests but is now court ordered to produce the
documents within one week.

Let's just say Mann's smoking gun is full of wet powder
and he is going to end up in court trying to defend
himself no matter how you cut it.

The University of Virginia administration can protect
him no longer and their denial has been exposed for
the public to see.

Spare me your knee jerk reaction.
 
#481
#481
IPorange said:
gsvol, you don't know what the carbon cycle is, then.
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You yourself are a part of the carbon cycle, albeit
apparently on the dumb side of the cycle.

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Mull some of that over and then come back with
your kneejerk reaction that is so indicative or your
ilk.
 
#482
#482
The co2 AGW trumpeters predicted a mild winter, the real scientists predicted a very cold winter.

It's 8 degrees at the AFL game now.

It's been down it the teens here most nights this month, that's pretty danged cold for this region.
 
#484
#484
Greenpeace Founder Questions Man-Made Global Warming | The Blaze

Patrick Moore, co-founder of the environmental organization Greenpeace, isn’t too hot about global warming. Appearing on Fox Business Network with Stuart Varney on Thursday, he said global warming is a “natural phenomenon,” there’s no proof of man-made global warming, and suggested that “alarmism” is driving politicians to create bad environmental policies. He also said he’s not the only environmentalist that believes like him.
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Example A would be the ehtanol mandates that are literally insane on several levels.

Example B might be the banning of the incandescent light bulb and guess what, it too dangerous to manufacture the madated flourescent bulbs in America so they are manufactured in China.

Example C and the worst of the lot is that now the EPA, without congressional oversight is attempting to regulate every co2 molecule produced in this country.
:crazy
 
#486
#486
How many effing global warming threads do you have to start? IPO hasn't even started a single one.
 
#488
#488
VOLatile said:
The real scientists?
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Yep!

Arctic air blast prompts warnings - Bangor Daily News

An arctic blast from Canada is bringing brutally frigid air and wind chills expected to dip to 50 below zero to northern New England, prompting officials to warn residents to take precautions against the cold.
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Northern New England is used to cold winters. A remote site in northern Maine recorded a minus 50 reading on Jan. 16, 2009, that tied a 1933 record set in Vermont for the coldest temperature recorded in New England.
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Upstate NY has predicted lows of -39 degrees tonight and it was a minus 46 in Minnesotta yesterday.

Real global warming isn't it??
 
#489
#489
I heard it was going to be a cold winter from agw folks... Links otherwise?
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#494
#494
Ihatethebuckeyes said:
Cue Patrick Moore character by IPOrange in 3 ... 2 ...
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:eek:lol:

Right on cue, preceded by his trained camel!!

Considering the bad governmental programs brought on by the AGW alarmists mentioned by Patrick Moore who said he would have never started Greenpeace if he had known it some day would be taken over by 'scientific illiterates.'

Ethanol’s ROI not just bad for MPG’s | Across the Back Fence

America’s food and energy policies are severely twisted. How else can you explain the fact that America refuses to mine its own energy sources, choosing instead to import most of our oil, while arguing that to meet our needs for something to power our cars and trucks, we ought instead to simply use a food staple used the world over?
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On the human side, the cost of everything in the grocery store, particularly those products with corn in them, have skyrocketed over the past several years.
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Other studies have reported that the ethanol-blended fuel requires approximately 1.5 gallons of fuel to power a car for every mile that gasoline will power the same car. More trips to the fueling station can’t be good for one’s pocket book, not to mention the environment that the ethanol proponents claim their product is helping.

So, what’s the point? Why are we even going down this road when we can see that food-based ethanol products harm car engines, don’t burn as efficiently as fossil fuels and cause food prices to rise unnecessarily?
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This whole thing should be in the script of 'Idiocracy!'

Corn prices have already increased by 300% for those who buy it to feed to their animals.
 
#495
#495
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Photo from gsvol's link..

Corn might need back on the table but the sammich maker looks like she might have a UTI. Cranberry juice with dinner? Don't give all us WASPS a bad name brotha..
 
#496
#496
GS, I'm not sure why you continue to state your case against corn ethanol when pretty much everyone that doesn't own a farm in Iowa or isn't an elected representative from a corn-growing state agrees with the points you make and has corvettes some time. I started my PhD program 5.5 years ago. I remember hearing profs railing against corn ethanol in my first few days here...and the had been doing so for a while.

I can understand pointing it out as an example of alarmism policy if you want (though I see it more as subsidy policy than alarmism policy); however, why overkill with the unneeded supporting information? Who are you trying to convince?
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#497
#497
IPorange said:
I heard it was going to be a cold winter from agw folks... Links otherwise?
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The only link I've seen otherwise would be from the Met(?) for England....I don't remember any US forecasts. Besides, and this may be what you are getting at, why would climate guys be forecasting this winter's weather? I assume he means forecasts from organizations that also do AGW modeling - though that likely throws a chink in the "real scientist" argument if it isn't the same group of people doing modeling and forecasting.
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#499
#499
Ditto. The biggest agw professor I ever had spent an entire lecture discussing how bad of an idea it was, and how mathematically you get more of an energy return by eating it.
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