Official Debate I Thread

[n_huffhines]

BTW, Trump won me over a bit. Not that I'd vote for him, but if it comes down to 2 POS candidates I will prefer the one that will entertain me for at least 4 years.

 

[Silence Dogood]

She was just honest with trump and called him out on his lies and inconsistencies.

And why would you never vote for Paul?

Paul has some really strange views on foreign policy, that seem to change the deeper he gets into his presidential campaign. He will cut off American aid to Israel, which I believe is profoundly wrong.

Another reason I will not vote for Paul, and many of the other candidates, is because he wants Amnesty for illegal aliens.

The third major reason I will not vote for Paul, is because he, along with others, wants to release hundreds if not thousands, of convicted felons from federal prisons.

On many issues Paul is a waffler, a shape shifter.

 

[volfanhill]

I would never vote for Paul, but Wallace and Kelly did not give Paul or Cruz much time to speak, and Kelly and Wallace were extra mean to Trump. Lost a lot of respect for Megan Kelly, and I have seen photos of her without war paint on her face.

Extra mean? GTFO with that nonsense

 

[n_huffhines]

Paul has some really strange views on foreign policy, that seem to change the deeper he gets into his presidential campaign. He will cut off American aid to Israel, which I believe is profoundly wrong.

Another reason I will not vote for Paul, and many of the other candidates, is because he wants Amnesty for illegal aliens.

The third major reason I will not vote for Paul, is because he, along with others, wants to release hundreds if not thousands, of convicted felons from federal prisons.

On many issues Paul is a waffler, a shape shifter.

He wants to release non-violent drug offenders and I'm pretty sure you are wrong about amnesty. I am for ammesty and IIRC i almost always disagree with him on immigration.

Btw, if you are for aid to Israel can you please explain how much it is, what they get and why they need it. If you support it i hope you know what it is. I highly doubt anybody here knows.

 

[Vol8188]

He wants to release non-violent drug offenders and I'm pretty sure you are wrong about amnesty. I am for ammesty and IIRC i almost always disagree with him on immigration.

And we shouldn't be giving foreign aid to any country until we solve our debt crisis, which is exactly what Paul said.

I also don't think Israel is hurting for money.

 

[n_huffhines]

And Paul waffler?!!!! Compared to who?

 

[RockVol]

He wants to release non-violent drug offenders and I'm pretty sure you are wrong about amnesty. I am for ammesty and IIRC i almost always disagree with him on immigration.

Btw, if you are for aid to Israel can you please explain how much it is, what they get and why they need it. If you support it i hope you know what it is. I highly doubt anybody here knows.

What kind of drug offenders? Just marijuana dealers or those who deal heavier stuff like meth?

 

[Silence Dogood]

He wants to release non-violent drug offenders and I'm pretty sure you are wrong about amnesty. I am for ammesty and IIRC i almost always disagree with him on immigration.

I am not wrong about Paul and amnesty for illegal aliens. You should, then, find him more appealing.

And Paul ain't wanting to release non-violent prisoners with Federal drug convictions, simply because they were in possession of a joint of pot. These prisoners are some very hard core drug criminals.

 

[Vol8188]

What kind of drug offenders? Just marijuana dealers or those who deal heavier stuff like meth?

Why should you be in prison for selling meth?

 

[n_huffhines]

What kind of drug offenders? Just marijuana dealers or those who deal heavier stuff like meth?

Non-violent users and non-violent distributors. I don't care what kind of drugs. Makes no matter. Doctors deal meth. Supposed to be a free country.

 

[RockVol]

Why should you be in prison for selling meth?

Meth kills. People on meth ruin their lives and many end up stealing for drug money. I wouldn't want a meth dealer living on the same street as my family, and I bet 99% of people would agree.

If someone gets caught selling some marijuana, no big deal. Meth and other heavy drugs, that's a problem.

 

[n_huffhines]

I am not wrong about Paul and amnesty for illegal aliens. You should, then, find him more appealing.

And Paul ain't wanting to release non-violent prisoners with Federal drug convictions, simply because they were in possession of a joint of pot. These prisoners are some very hard core drug criminals.

Amnesty is a confusing term. I can see how someone would think he is for it.

Rand Paul Joins Ted Cruz Against Amnesty for Illegals

 

[n_huffhines]

Meth kills. People on meth ruin their lives and many end up stealing for drug money. I wouldn't want a meth dealer living on the same street as my family, and I bet 99% of people would agree.

If someone gets caught selling some marijuana, no big deal. Meth and other heavy drugs, that's a problem.

Everything kills. There are a lot bigger dangers than meth.

 

[Gramps]

I really thought Paul would have performed better than he did. I realize it was the first debate, but he needs to step it up big time.

Agree .. Rand is no Ron

 

[Vol8188]

Meth kills. People on meth ruin their lives and many end up stealing for drug money. I wouldn't want a meth dealer living on the same street as my family, and I bet 99% of people would agree.

If someone gets caught selling some marijuana, no big deal. Meth and other heavy drugs, that's a problem.

I wouldn't want a banker living on my street, but that doesn't mean they should all be in jail (only a large number of them).

It's a matter of personal responsibility. If you sell or use drugs, that's your choice. And people stealing for drug money would be much less of a problem if cops weren't taking large amounts of drugs off the streets and inflating prices.

 

[RockVol]

I wouldn't want a banker living on my street, but that doesn't mean they should all be in jail (only a large number of them).

It's a matter of personal responsibility. If you sell or use drugs, that's your choice. And people stealing for drug money would be much less of a problem if cops weren't taking large amounts of drugs off the streets and inflating prices.

I'm not worried about myself, but these type of people would prey on many young people. If you had children (not just to you, but in general), then you wouldn't want someone like that living down the street from you. I'm not talking about small drugs, but those who deal heavy drugs ruin many lives. That's not to mention other crimes big time drug dealers get involved with.

 

[orangeluvr]

Trump ! :rock:

 

[Vol8188]

I'm not worried about myself, but these type of people would prey on many young people. If you had children (not just to you, but in general), then you wouldn't want someone like that living down the street from you. I'm not talking about small drugs, but those who deal heavy drugs ruin many lives. That's not to mention other crimes big time drug dealers get involved with.

I think the idea that people are selling hard drugs to your kids is a bit over blown. Unless you're giving your kid a 200 dollar weekly allowance, I doubt they're going end up addicted to heroin or meth.

And other crimes aren't relevant because we are only talking about non violent drug offenders.

 

[orangeluvr]

Agree .. Rand is no Ron

Rand is a freaking half baked fruit cake! :yes:

 

[RockVol]

I think the idea that people are selling hard drugs to your kids is a bit over blown. Unless you're giving your kid a 200 dollar weekly allowance, I doubt they're going end up addicted to heroin or meth.

And other crimes aren't relevant because we are only talking about non violent drug offenders.

It just takes 1 kid to get the drugs then pass them out at a party or at school. Selling meth is not nonviolent, it is not victimless. These people are hurting others. People who decide to do drugs once may have a lapse in judgment, then next thing you know, they're addicted and it has ruined their lives.

 

[orangeluvr]

I think the idea that people are selling hard drugs to your kids is a bit over blown. Unless you're giving your kid a 200 dollar weekly allowance, I doubt they're going end up addicted to heroin or meth.

And other crimes aren't relevant because we are only talking about non violent drug offenders.

Kids can make their own meth for less than 200. They really shouldn't do that though ! :jpshakehead:

 

[n_huffhines]

I'm not worried about myself, but these type of people would prey on many young people. If you had children (not just to you, but in general), then you wouldn't want someone like that living down the street from you. I'm not talking about small drugs, but those who deal heavy drugs ruin many lives. That's not to mention other crimes big time drug dealers get involved with.

Think of the children. We got hundreds of thousands of missing dads because you want people in jail for their personal choices. We can still go after bad guys who prey on kids and forgive the rest.

 

[Vol8188]

It just takes 1 kid to get the drugs then pass them out at a party or at school. Selling meth is not nonviolent, it is not victimless. These people are hurting others. People who decide to do drugs once may have a lapse in judgment, then next thing you know, they're addicted and it has ruined their lives.

You can't be a victim if you knew what you were buying. You can't claim the drug dealer is hurting others if they are willingly purchasing the drugs themselves. And you can't justify laws that ruin lives on the grounds that drugs ruin lives.

 

[Vol8188]

Kids can make their own meth for less than 200. They really shouldn't do that though ! :jpshakehead:

Blue font? Because if your kid is making his own meth and you don't know about it, you shouldn't have children and no drug law is going to protect your kids from your own incompetence.

 

[Vol8188]

It's amazing how many of you would be appalled if LG said gun stores ruin lives.

Then you come out and make the exact same argument about drug dealers. What happened to being the party of personal responsibility?