Obama admin has done a good job managing the economic crisis of Bush

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Grand Vol said:
Drink your buttermilk, you're less cranky when you do...

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The big spender percent wise was FDR . he added $236 billion which was a 1,048% increase .

I just got back from Weigles with my buttermilk. :)

#ubtrollinlately

How ya like that and you thought I was too old to twerk

:hi:
 
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Gramps said:
The big spender percent wise was FDR . he added $236 billion which was a 1,048% increase .

I just got back from Weigles with my buttermilk. :)

#ubtrollinlately

:hi:
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It's generally pretty obvious when I troll. And trust me, I haven't been as of late.
 
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Cramps,
These are the actual treasury numbers that are only booked every Sept 30th. That's why I said roughly corresponding to prez terms. If you think the debt will be $21 trillion by Sept 30th, 2016, that would be an increase of 109% during the Obama years alone.
 
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Ernest T. Vol said:
Cramps,
These are the actual treasury numbers that are only booked every Sept 30th. That's why I said roughly corresponding to prez terms. If you think the debt will be $21 trillion by Sept 30th, 2016, that would be an increase of 109% during the Obama years alone.
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I think it is very possible. You are a money man, what say you?
 
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Grand Vol said:
It's generally pretty obvious when I troll. And trust me, I haven't been as of late.
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Good. I thought the arkie Piggie may have met you on the side of I-40 on your road trip and smacked what sense you had plum outta you . :)

It's all in good fun GV. I was just messing with you. You are a good poster and an asset to the politics forum. :hi:
 
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Gramps said:
You helped make my point the debt exploded under Reagan, W Bush and Obama. I look for it to be 21 Trillion by the time O leaves

Your numbers are off some the POTUS takes office Jan 20 . that is the date one should use.
Bush added a lot of debt from Sept to Jan 20. It was 10.6 the day he left office and O sworn in. That aside Obama will increase the debt as much as all the other presidents combined by the time he leaves office

I was not trying to start a big argument I was simply making the point that approx 15 trillion of our 18 trillion debt was during these three men's administration. 40 presidents accumulated approx 3 trillion in debt, 3 accumulated approx 15 trillion.
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And by Jan 20, 2019 one will have accumulated more than 10 trillion
 
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Gramps said:
The big spender percent wise was FDR . he added $236 billion which was a 1,048% increase .

I just got back from Weigles with my buttermilk. :)

#ubtrollinlately

How ya like that and you thought I was too old to twerk

:hi:
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I just threw up in my mouth.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Why cant everyone understand this? 88 what is your answer to this? 8 trillion stinking dollars we will never ever pay off....trll me again barry hasnt buried this nation in debt? What in the hell are you even attempting to defend him for? Pointing to a budget deficit that is "projected" to decline in the face of all the debt he alone is responsible for is absolutely insane. Get a grip on reality.
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He's gone. You are using real numbers.
 
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Ernest T. Vol said:
National debt as of Sept 30th of years roughly corresponding with presidential terms:

The W years
2000 5,674,178,209,887.00
2008 10,024,724,896,912.00

4,350,546,687,025.00 77% increase


The Obama years
2008 10,024,724,896,912.00
2014 17,824,071,380,734.00

7,799,346,483,822.00 78% increase

The kicker is the Obama years are for 6 not 8. Debt is increasing at increasing rates of speed.
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Bush is 01-09. Which changes that number a lot.

Edit: possibly even 02-10 depending on if those numbers are from Han 1 or Dec 31
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Why cant everyone understand this? 88 what is your answer to this? 8 trillion stinking dollars we will never ever pay off....trll me again barry hasnt buried this nation in debt? What in the hell are you even attempting to defend him for? Pointing to a budget deficit that is "projected" to decline in the face of all the debt he alone is responsible for is absolutely insane. Get a grip on reality.
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My answer is that it puts him on par with the Reagan/Bush and W. administrations.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Bush is 01-09. Which changes that number a lot.

Edit: possibly even 02-10 depending on if those numbers are from Han 1 or Dec 31
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It's been tried before, but there's no way you can honestly pin the stimulus and porkulus bills on Bush when they were bills that came out of the democrat house and signed by Obama.
 
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Gramps said:
Yeah you are wrong.
The debt rose like crazy under all 3. That is a fact.
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If I am not mistaken though, King Putt said something about promising to cut the deficit/debt in half or he would only be a one term president. I guess he thought Americans were smart enough to send his entitlement promising ass packing. Suuuuuuuuure
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
If I am not mistaken though, King Putt said something about promising to cut the deficit/debt in half or he would only be a one term president. I guess he thought Americans were smart enough to send his entitlement promising ass packing. Suuuuuuuuure
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That was an Obama lie, there are many more.
 
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MG1968 said:
It's been tried before, but there's no way you can honestly pin the stimulus and porkulus bills on Bush when they were bills that came out of the democrat house and signed by Obama.
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You can put the cost of a new cabinet department, medicare prescription D, the Iraq War, bailouts, etc while cutting taxes on W.

The fact is there was approximately $5 trillion was added to our debt during the Bush years that had 6 of his 8 years under GOP control.

There is no denying it. The records speaks for thenselves. The Reagan, W. Bush and Obama Administrations gave us approximately 15 million of our debt. Now as I have said many times Congress controls the checkbook. The spending by these administrations was done with Congress approval. Can we blame the administrations for all our debt? I say no, more blame falls on congress, imo.
 
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Why is cutting taxes a bad thing and the dems say we can afford it? THEY never have the same cry on a new social program...
 
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MG1968 said:
It's been tried before, but there's no way you can honestly pin the stimulus and porkulus bills on Bush when they were bills that came out of the democrat house and signed by Obama.
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That's not what I was saying at all. I was saying Bush wasn't even in office in 2000.

But you're still wrong. Both of these occurred during 2008.

How did you post that was 100% false get 5 likes? That's sad.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
So 6 years of your Messiah = 20 years of R's. Yeah somehow that must work out in your twisted mathematical system.
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It's called inflation, which we've already established you do not understand.

As I've shown previously: 3 of The five years obama has been in office, spending has been below that of the bush administrations last year. So it's insane that you continue to claim spending is increasing at some extradinary rate.

Yes the national debt is increasing, but is at a historical norm when compared to gdp.
 
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