No Heisman for Tennessee???

#77
#77
Rasputin_Vol said:
You could make a compelling arguement that the 5th place vote getter in 1956 (Jim Brown) and 4th place vote getter in 1997 (Randy Moss) were more deserving than the players ahead of them.
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Shhhhhh.... Peyton Manning deserved that award more than anyone has ever deserved any award, and if you don't like killing puppies, you will agree.
 
#78
#78
droski said:
woodson is a 3 time probowler. griese started a couple of seasons for denver and was completely mediocre.

and why would ESPN intentionally want to pump up tebow. a guy who plays 90% of its games on a rival network? It wouldn't have to do with the fact he had one of the greatest seasons in college football history right?
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Big Tampa Bay fan and I do believe that Griese started games for the Bucs, before Sims...
 
#79
#79
droski said:
woodsen was the best player on the #1 team in the country. peyton was not.

if you guys start competing for NC again you will get another shot at the heisman.
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That is a stretch and yes Peyton was on a team that was competing for the NC that year... this was prior to the BCS.... and we had Split Championship that year. Nebraska and Michigan. We played Nebraska and lost Michigan won the Rose...
 
#80
#80
droski said:
woodson is a 3 time probowler. griese started a couple of seasons for denver and was completely mediocre.
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I was referring to their college careers - and in specific, Greise was more important to the success of the that Michigan team than Chuck Woodson.

ESPN got behind Woodson, plain and simple.

And ESPN got behind Tebow. I think Tebow was much more deserving than Woodson.

The good thing for Tebow is that he knows he'll receive at least one first place vote next year.
 
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#82
#82
tennessee77 said:
I'm conviced that Tennessee will never win a heisman trophy. When we have finished second the most times w/o winning one(4), who needs the stupid thing. I don't want one of our players to be in the same category as andre ware, geno torretta and rashaun salaam and that will be fine with me.
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Johnny Majors was as shafted as was Peyton Manning, probably more when it was awarded to a Paul Horning on an average or below average team that year.
 
#84
#84
UT IE 95 said:
I was referring to their college careers - and in specific, Greise was more important to the success of the that Michigan team than Chuck Woodson.

ESPN got behind Woodson, plain and simple.

And ESPN got behind Tebow. I think Tebow was much more deserving than Woodson.

The good thing for Tebow is that he knows he'll receive at least one first place vote next year.
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griese was more important because he is the QB. You said he was the best player which is ridiculous.

woodson deserved the heisman over peyton
 
#85
#85
Rasputin_Vol said:
You could make a compelling arguement that the 5th place vote getter in 1956 (Jim Brown) and 4th place vote getter in 1997 (Randy Moss) were more deserving than the players ahead of them.
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Yep. Moss should have gotten it over everybody else in 97.

And Jim Brown is Jim Brown. Enough said.
 
#86
#86
droski said:
griese was more important because he is the QB. You said he was the best player which is ridiculous.

woodson deserved the heisman over peyton
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I get sick of this debate.

Mark Jones was Charles Woodson 5 years later, yet he received no mention whatsoever.

Moss should have won it in 97 anyways.
 
#87
#87
droski said:
griese was more important because he is the QB. You said he was the best player which is ridiculous.

woodson deserved the heisman over peyton
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It's not ridiculous. Griese was more important and he was the best player on that team. Thus his teammates voted him the MVP of the team for the season.

Woodson got the hype, the headshot with the Rose in his mouth, and the hypesman pose in the endzone. From a statistical standpoint Woodson wasn't even the best corner back in the NCAA.
 
#88
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UT IE 95 said:
It's not ridiculous. Griese was more important and he was the best player on that team. Thus his teammates voted him the MVP of the team for the season.

Woodson got the hype, the headshot with the Rose in his mouth, and the hypesman pose in the endzone. From a statistical standpoint Woodson wasn't even the best corner back in the NCAA.
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Nope. That was Desmond Howard. Woodson never did the pose.
 
#91
#91
UT IE 95 said:
I remember Howard after the score. But I swear I remember Woodson doing it for the camera with the Rose in his mouth after the Michigan St game.
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I thought I did too. I can't remember who, but someone linked an article on here that proved me wrong. Woodson claimed he never did it in the article.
 
#92
#92
justingroves said:
I thought I did too. I can't remember who, but someone linked an article on here that proved me wrong. Woodson claimed he never did it in the article.
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A little research has proved me to be incorrect. I don't know where I got that idea. Oh well, being wrong once a year isn't too bad.
 
#94
#94
UT IE 95 said:
I was referring to their college careers - and in specific, Greise was more important to the success of the that Michigan team than Chuck Woodson.
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I doubt Greise played QB as well las Woodson played DB. It isn't a QB only award. But what do I know I was only 6.
 
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