No chemistry - not our fault

#51
#51
Its just a lost season. It doesn't happen with Ky....Kansas....Duke etc. But North Carolina appears to be down. It sucks...but what can you do? Losing by 20 at home to Wisconsin is a scary harbinger for what's to come. Its gonna get ugly I'm afraid. It already IS ugly...just gonna get worse unfortunately. We'll get em next year hopefully.
 
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zjcvols said:
He took 2018 off. He got one player and left an open scholly all year.
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Didn’t Tyler Harris, Hunter Tyson, Amanze Ngumezi all OV?

I know for sure Filip Petrusev did and the staff felt great about him until Gonzaga offered at the last minute, what a difference he would make on this team.
 
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#53
bleedingTNorange said:
Didn’t Tyler Harris, Hunter Tyson, Amanze Ngumezi all OV?

I know for sure Filip Petrusev did and the staff felt great about him until Gonzaga offered at the last minute, what a difference he would make on this team.
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Cool, we get any of them?
 
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VolBricks said:
I said the very same thing after the last game. If you cannot shoot from outside and your big men cannot score down low, then all that is left is dribble drive. Unfortunately we really don't have the dribble drive game either.
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This team can't shoot, can't press, or get easy buckets off transitions. Going to be a very long year.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Didn’t Tyler Harris, Hunter Tyson, Amanze Ngumezi all OV?

I know for sure Filip Petrusev did and the staff felt great about him until Gonzaga offered at the last minute, what a difference he would make on this team.
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I wouldn't say Barnes "took the year off", but it is his responsibility to land recruits, not just target them.

In the end, the results are 100% his responsibility.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Didn’t realize that was what you said, I thought you were claiming they didn’t recruit at all or even try?
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They might as well not have for that class since they got exactly zero minutes for the whole 2018 class.
 
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zjcvols said:
They might as well not have for that class since they got exactly zero minutes for the whole 2018 class.
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You’re trying to make 1 thing mean another, just because they didn’t land a guy who has played doesn’t mean they didn’t “try” or “took the year off”. Their misses in the 2018 class are glaringly obvious right now, but again that doesn’t mean they weren’t trying to land some pieces.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You’re trying to make 1 thing mean another, just because they didn’t land a guy who has played doesn’t mean they didn’t “try” or “took the year off”. Their misses in the 2018 class are glaringly obvious right now, but again that doesn’t mean they weren’t trying to land some pieces.
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Yes BTO it is obvious I wasn’t being facetious and clearly meant that Rick Barnes didn’t do an ounce of recruiting and sat on his desk eating Grant Williams’ popcorn all day.

Come on man.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You’re trying to make 1 thing mean another, just because they didn’t land a guy who has played doesn’t mean they didn’t “try” or “took the year off”. Their misses in the 2018 class are glaringly obvious right now, but again that doesn’t mean they weren’t trying to land some pieces.
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Was gambling with Blackshear and Plavsic and adding an ineligible Bailey a wise move? Looks like he had chances to head off a possible disaster in year 5. This is a 30+ year coach.
 
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zjcvols said:
Yes BTO it is obvious I wasn’t being facetious and clearly meant that Rick Barnes didn’t do an ounce of recruiting and sat on his desk eating Grant Williams’ popcorn all day.

Come on man.
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Ahhh, so the over exaggeration was necessary to make said point? Got it.
 
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calban said:
Was gambling with Blackshear and Plavsic and adding an ineligible Bailey a wise move? Looks like he had chances to head off a possible disaster in year 5. This is a 30+ year coach.
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We had 3 open scholarships heading into last fall, we signed James/Gaines/Pember...as we headed out of winter it was looking more and more like Williams was gone, we added ORN, making us likely full again.

Bone leaves, Walker leaves and at that point they opt to add Bailey who is a guy they like, and then Plavsic who they like and thought for sure would win his appeal. They miss on Blackshear, Burns situation happens and he leaves and at that point the pickings are pretty darn slim.

There are a lot of things that can be questioned, I don’t think necessarily how they handled this class is a big deal, 2018 seems a bigger issue to me...add in that and some unfortunate events and this is what you get.

How much different does this team look with a healthy Lamonte Turner, DJ Burns and an eligible Uros Plavsic? Essentially you’re combining the misses in a 2018 recruiting class, with guys losing waiver appeals, and guys having season ending injuries...not a great mix.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Pointless to even reason with him.
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Here is your "reasoning"... he's coached 32 years. That averages 21 wins a year. Certainly not bad, but far from spectacular. ONE FF and a horrific tourney record.
But its OK with most of you that HIS lack of recruiting a true PG isnt his fault?
5 mill a year and we shouldn't have to ever worry about missing the tourney. This team has ZERO leadership. ZERO offense and can't shoot a lick. Didnt y'all claim that Punter got better shooting because of Barnes? Welp... where is that coaching now?
Giving Barnes a pass this year is totally disrespectful to the Seniors on this team and the fans.
But keep on kissing that ass and sparing him from accountability.
This team has plenty of talent to make the tourney, so we'll have to see how it turns out. But SO FAR.. this has been a very bad example of good coaching.
 
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JoAllan said:
Tennessee shot 35% however:
Fulk went 3 for 3 (100%)
Pons went 2 for 4 (50%)
Oliver went 2 for 4 (50%)
Pember went 1 for 2 (50%)

When the shots aren’t falling, it becomes imperative to get the ball down low. Tennessee didn’t. Some of this comes from a lack of Turner, some from a new point, some from a new starter, and some as Fulk, Pons, ect didn’t work hard enough to gain position and demand the ball.

No matter the reason for not getting it down low enough......if the outside shots aren’t falling this team must find a way to get the ball down low.....especially if they are shooting 62%.
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And Jalen Johnson was 3 for 6 with 6 rebounds! IMO, he needs more minutes and to shoot more!
 
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#73
What those whining about Barnes fail to remember is how effed up the roster was when he started at UT. He added 5 in his first class and 7 in his second. If it wasn't a dumpster fire at the beginning perhaps he could have been adding 3 or 4 each year. It's not an ideal situation to entice recruits to join a program when it is going to be heavily weighted with upperclassmen for their first few years. Barnes has upgraded the roster. He can't control injuries. He can't force players to not be dumbasses if they don't want to go with the program. Kids start getting recruited now around the 7th and 8th grade. I'm pretty happy that Keon, Springer, Walker, Vescovi, James, Gaines, Olivier, Plavsic, and the rest decided to sign with TN. I'll take those guys over perfectly balanced classes every year.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
What those whining about Barnes fail to remember is how effed up the roster was when he started at UT. He added 5 in his first class and 7 in his second. If it wasn't a dumpster fire at the beginning perhaps he could have been adding 3 or 4 each year. It's not an ideal situation to entice recruits to join a program when it is going to be heavily weighted with upperclassmen for their first few years. Barnes has upgraded the roster. He can't control injuries. He can't force players to not be dumbasses if they don't want to go with the program. Kids start getting recruited now around the 7th and 8th grade. I'm pretty happy that Keon, Springer, Walker, Vescovi, James, Gaines, Olivier, Plavsic, and the rest decided to sign with TN. I'll take those guys over perfectly balanced classes every year.
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Is the old dumpster fire reference even relevant in year 5? It's all your guys and you own it. 5 years to build or F it up. No one's complaining about next season YET. Wouldn't be as bad if Barnes didn't constantly talk about family and knowing his guys. then he's blind sided by Bone, the NCAA(Uros) and now Turner. He was 71% getting to the tourney before he got here and you expect everyone to be satisfied with 40% in year 5 here. Situation intensified by the UCLA and raise incident. That's not how this world rolls
 
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calban said:
Is the old dumpster fire reference even relevant in year 5? It's all your guys and you own it. 5 years to build or F it up. No one's complaining about next season YET. Wouldn't be as bad if Barnes didn't constantly talk about family and knowing his guys. then he's blind sided by Bone, the NCAA(Uros) and now Turner. He was 71% getting to the tourney before he got here and you expect everyone to be satisfied with 40% in year 5 here. Situation intensified by the UCLA and raise incident. That's not how this world rolls
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Criticism is fair, and warranted...however these things do happen and it seems a bit like a perfect storm. Prior to Turner’s shoulder worsening we were ranked Top 20 and appeared as a shoe in for the NCAAT, so Barnes did have us in position to make the dance yet again, unfortunately injuries do happen.
 
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