Nine programs that won a national title but never will again

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VFL-82-JP said:
I've always been taken by the weird parallels between Michigan and Tennessee. And not only between the two programs, but even more specifically between Lloyd Carr and Phillip Fulmer during the time they were our respective coaches.

Just really curious.
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Not to mention the fact that Tom Osborne, after the 1998 Orange Bowl, said that Fulmer would win a national championship at Tennessee before his tenure was done. Little did anyone know at the time that the accomplishment would be achieved the very next year.
 
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Coaching. That’s it. That’s what it takes. If you have an elite one at a school that recruits itself already like a Tennessee, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Bama, Michigan, etc get ready for domination.

I’m sure these writers thought Oklahoma and Bama were dead and buried in the late 90’s. But then they hire Stoops and Saban and look what happened.
 
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99gator said:
Since 1992, Tennessee has beaten Florida and Georgia in the same season 4 times.

It’s a problem.

That said, Tennessee is capable of winning at the highest level
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For Tennessee, Florida has been a problem. During seasons when Tennessee has made a bowl game, Tennessee's record vs Georgia since 1992 is 14-6. For the most part, Georgia only beats Tennessee when Tennessee is really bad. I understand they have a great recruiting base and a new coach... but I also have seen that when Tennessee has had it's act together and put a half way decent team on the field - they have no problem beating Georgia.

Obviously, Florida is another story.
 
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IMO 2015 just proves how asinine this is. With a competent coach who can hold a lead and a couple of breaks we could’ve easily made the playoffs that year.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
IMO 2015 just proves how asinine this is. With a competent coach who can hold a lead and a couple of breaks we could’ve easily made the playoffs that year.
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Absolutely. Tennessee held a lead in the 4th quarter of every game except for Arkansas which was only a 4 point loss. They had 14 and 13 point 4th quarter leads vs Oklahoma and Florida.
 
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jeff1vol said:
1992... The Dawn of Time.
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Well, the college football landscape changed that season. Anything prior to that timeframe is pretty much irrelevant to "today's" game and how a champion (both conference and national) is determined.

That doesn't dissolve history but going forward it's a new game. And, imo, most P5 teams can win a NC if the stars align that particular season.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Absolutely. Tennessee held a lead in the 4th quarter of every game except for Arkansas which was only a 4 point loss. They had 14 and 13 point 4th quarter leads vs Oklahoma and Florida.
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I recently watch the 1st quarter sequence from the '15 OU game.

1st down...Nice play to the TE that was ruled down at the 1.

2nd down...Hurd for barely a gain.

3rd down...Kamara for nothing.

4th down...FG

First, why not use Kamara on 2nd down instead of 3rd....or why use Kamara at all in that situation?

That's a time to go big. Cram it in there. See what Bama did vs. UT last season on 4th an goal!

Even if you don't make it on 4th down, OU gets the ball on the 1/2 yard line.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
True and how many times has Georgia beaten Tennessee, Florida and Auburn in the same regular season? As good as they were, it didn't happen last year. ... and as bad as Butch Jones was, it was just two freaking years ago that Tennessee beat both Florida and Georgia in the same season.
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Yep
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We beat GA and FLA...

And lost to SC and candy for petes sake...let that sink in a minute...if that doesn't say that Bamas ball boy was the worst coach we have had in my lifetime...then last year does.

How do you have a team good enough to beat out 2 east rivals....and can't get them fired up or executing well enough to beat 2 teams that we hold a crazy lopsided all time streak against


Because they were and are doormats for the rest of the SEC...

Amazing butch...amazing.
 
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Boca Vol said:
I recently watch the 1st quarter sequence from the '15 OU game.

1st down...Nice play to the TE that was ruled down at the 1.

2nd down...Hurd for barely a gain.

3rd down...Kamara for nothing.

4th down...FG

First, why not use Kamara on 2nd down instead of 3rd....or why use Kamara at all in that situation?

That's a time to go big. Cram it in there. See what Bama did vs. UT last season on 4th an goal!

Even if you don't make it on 4th down, OU gets the ball on the 1/2 yard line.
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That is still painful.
 
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sunnyvol79 said:
I’m most def a Vol fan but a REALISTIC one
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Never understood the whole "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" argument. Why the assumption that reality is always a negative outcome? I'm guessing the vast majority of people on here have not led a life sufficiently sh***y to warrant that way of thinking. It's a chosen approach.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Well, the college football landscape changed that season. Anything prior to that timeframe is pretty much irrelevant to "today's" game and how a champion (both conference and national) is determined.

That doesn't dissolve history but going forward it's a new game. And, imo, most P5 teams can win a NC if the stars align that particular season.
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This.

I used 1992 because Tennessee didn't play Florida and Georgia every year until then.

And it's been a problem. Doesn't mean it's a problem that can't be overcome. It has been overcome.

But, Tennessee has beaten Florida, Georgia, and Alabama in the same season twice since 1992 (1998 and 2004). While Tennessee has been "down" that also includes Tennessee's "Decade of Dominance". So, I would say schedule difficulty is a factor.

The argument centers around the potential of two theories. 1. Tennessee’s difficulties during this period of time (conference expansion) are part of a cycle and purely coincidental. Or (2) the new landscape of college football has been a cause of Tennessee’s problems.

I think it is coincidence. But, I also think it was a lot easier to win in 1981 than it is today. But, that’s true for everybody.
 
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99gator said:
This.

I used 1992 because Tennessee didn't play Florida and Georgia every year until then.

And it's been a problem. Doesn't mean it's a problem that can't be overcome. It has been overcome.

But, Tennessee has beaten Florida, Georgia, and Alabama in the same season twice since 1992 (1998 and 2004). While Tennessee has been "down" that also includes Tennessee's "Decade of Dominance". So, I would say schedule difficulty is a factor.

The argument centers around the potential of two theories. 1. Tennessee’s difficulties during this period of time (conference expansion) are part of a cycle and purely coincidental. Or (2) the new landscape of college football has been a cause of Tennessee’s problems.

I think it is coincidence. But, I also think it was a lot easier to win in 1981 than it is today. But, that’s true for everybody.
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From the years 1995-2006, Tennessee beat both Georgia and Alabama in the same season 7 out of 12 years. Once again, that was strictly a Florida problem (and sometimes an Auburn problem - not Georgia).
 
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These are usually the same sort of guys that salivate over an Oregon football program that has yet to win their first NC. And UGA? Won 1 since 1980 and due mainly to one player, Superdawg Herschel Walker. Walked into their first stadium since then to play for one last year which is a huge accomplishment for the dawgs who promptly lost. meh People kicking dirt at us that have yet to be what we were and are. Put a few rocks in the way of NCs inyour pocket folks and get back to us.
 
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Clickbait! I’m not even gonna read that trash. College football programs can go up or down in the blink of an eye.

Georgia was a train wreck two years ago. Just wait until Kirby doesn’t bring a title home with all of that talent he has. The fans will run him off too.

Alabama was a train wreck before Saban. How many years does he have left really? 2? 3? Dabo will replace him, and look at all the players we would have if that was the case today.

Florida has been all over the map since Urban. Even if Mullen does well, and I think he will, the fanbase there is totally delusional. They’ll run him out of town too, imo.

Tennessee can easily win again, but Pruitt has to build this program from the ground up. We need to give him time too.
 
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Boca Vol said:
I recently watch the 1st quarter sequence from the '15 OU game.

1st down...Nice play to the TE that was ruled down at the 1.

2nd down...Hurd for barely a gain.

3rd down...Kamara for nothing.

4th down...FG

First, why not use Kamara on 2nd down instead of 3rd....or why use Kamara at all in that situation?

That's a time to go big. Cram it in there. See what Bama did vs. UT last season on 4th an goal!

Even if you don't make it on 4th down, OU gets the ball on the 1/2 yard line.
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It was the chart Boca, the chart I tell ya....

-Lyle Jones
 
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It's hard, but it's not as difficult when high level admin, AD, coaches work at a high level. UGA didn't win it LY...but keep doing right things with right coaches and players, and you get your shots. Once we begin winning, everyone will jump on UT bandwagon fast because of the fanaticism of UT football, which actually does rival Bama, LSU, etc. in passion, fan experience, money, etc.

Maybe they should have said UT will never win another championship as long as boosters continue to meddle.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Yep
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We beat GA and FLA...

And lost to SC and candy for petes sake...let that sink in a minute...if that doesn't say that Bamas ball boy was the worst coach we have had in my lifetime...then last year does.

How do you have a team good enough to beat out 2 east rivals....and can't get them fired up or executing well enough to beat 2 teams that we hold a crazy lopsided all time streak against


Because they were and are doormats for the rest of the SEC...

Amazing butch...amazing.
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By the time we got around to the last 5 or so games of the 2016 season, the toxicity of culture that Butch had sown had fully taken hold and the team was done. The great OT effort in the loss at TAM, the 49-10 slaughter at home to Bama, and then the unforgivable loss to SCar and their HighSchool qb with the season on the line....by then, the Jones dysfunction had drained the players and they performed accordingly.
 
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sunnyvol79 said:
Tenneseee won’t ever win a SEC title let alone a east division title either.
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Okay, now you’re just straight-up trolling, just for kicks. At least I hope so anyway because if you’re not then I’ll just go ahead and clue you in to the fact that everyone you know thinks you suck to be around.
 
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