- Feb 22, 2016
Can someone start a new 2024 recruiting thread Lmao… we have recruits on campus and all I see are poster blabbering about NIL
The notion that the NCAA is "power-hungry" is nonsense. First, it's a member-driven organization. Major-college athletics has got crass, commercial, and, now, chaotic precisely because the NCAA has never had enough power to combat the commercialism that has corrupted major-college football.
I Agree with Turbo , and expect some expert Straight talker will interject how wrong Turbo and I are, and I will smile.
will be interesting to read the "honest" disclosures of universities with boosters with deep pockets.
what would be the accomplishments, education and skill to be hired as a NIL university advisor at a power school?
The case summary you quote is pretty sketchy on the court's rationales and those used by the the lower courts which the SC affirmed. A denser but more complete summary can be found here:
In January of 2021, as the coronavirus pandemic reached its peak in the United States, Alabama Crimson Tide football coach Nick Saban won his...harvardlawreview.org
The flipside of this decision is just how lame of an argument that the NCAA used to defend their "amateur" system. In brief, they claimed that NCAA sports is a business based in the distinction between amateurism and professionalism and if that distinction were blurred, consumers would have reduced choice in the marketplace since everybody would be a professional.
Kavanaugh, who is not my fave SC justice, punctured this rationale quickly and easily, stating:
"[n]owhere else in America can businesses get away with agreeing not to pay their workers a fair market rate on the theory that their product is defined by not paying their workers a fair market rate. . . . The NCAA is not above the law."
I can tell you first hand we offer recruits. The question is does an unproven hs recruit deserve what rickea or tamari earn? If you do well here, you earn pretty good NIL money. My theoretical question to all is fo you think a hs recruit ranked in the 40s should earn as much as rickea jackson who is a potential all american?
I understand a top 10 recruit wanting a big package but now a large contingency is asking for it regardless of ranking.
If a program like Tennessee is recruiting a HS player, that player has the right to ask for whatever they want. Don’t leave money on the table when the market is there.
Of course they're asking for it. There is a sub-culture of wanting things for free in America. That is why NIL is nonsense---and most especially, offering deals to prospects is corrupt, crass and should be banned. These are kids who, for starters, apparently have little respect for the idea of going to college and getting an education. The Ivies have had it right all along---treating athletics as what is is, an extra-curricular activity, one of many. They keep it in perspective.
as proven by the low GPA's?
Kellie Harper's squad posted a 3.397 GPA that stands as the highest rated of any Southeastern Conference women's hoops program for the 2021-22 school year.
The recently completed Fall 2022 semester was a record-breaking term for Tennessee Athletics, as the student-athlete population posted a cumulative 3.32 grade-point average—the highest ever recorded. The previous high—excluding terms with COVID grade-mode flexibility—was 3.27 in Spring 2022.
By marking the 20th consecutive semester in which the Vols and Lady Vols combined to post a GPA of 3.0 or higher, Tennessee Athletics has now maintained that level of academic achievement for a full 10 years.
but what about this past year:
Academically, the Spring 2023 semester saw Tennessee’s more than 550 student-athletes achieve a cumulative grade-point average of 3.38—its highest ever recorded. For the first time ever, all 16 sport programs earned a team GPA of at least a 3.0. This spring also marked the 21st consecutive semester in which the Vols and Lady Vols combined to post a GPA of 3.0 or higher
Do your homework,,,they do!
So, you see, the school DOES manage the collective NIL money (Part one of my "plan").
Not being a smartass. Really seeking information. Is Boost Her Club for wbb or for all women's sports. If for basketball, do they disclose whether all players receive an equal amount or are some players paid more than others? The Gamecocks pay a flat rate to all players. 25,000 per year whether you were the #1 prospect or the number 41. Whether you are a true freshman or an all conference transfer. Flat rate, Totally transparent. And I think every school should release that information on what their collective pays. I wanna' know what Texas pays from its NIL collective!
The Individual NIL is where it gets shady, but really only the players' business how much she makes in endorsements, social media, etc. I do believe a team advisor should be able to help enrolled players maximize their PERSONAL earnings. (It's the American way and the reason the S.Ct. smacked the NCAA around) BUT, I don't believe the advisors should be permitted to participate in recruiting or talk to prospects about Individual NIL opportunity until the player enrolls in the school. Whether we are talking hs recruiting or portal.
Just my opinion of course.
Do they have any obligations (beyond the usual team appearances, etc) to get the "base pay". Or is it just plain ole pay for play?
In the University context, 20 to 25K is around what grad students (usually PhD but sometimes masters students) get in support for being Teaching assistants (TAs) or research assistants (RAs), as well as having their tuition covered.
The demands of playing a D1 sport are quite high so that level of salary does not seem outrageous.
As you know, NILS are a way for the NCAA to avoid paying athletes from athletic departments own revenue streams. I am impressed that SC has been able to lock in this kind of base support.