Nico to UCLA?

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CAVPUT said:
No one knows how much input Nico did or didn't have in this situation. What I see is a young man who seems to be the exact opposite of his father. Combine that with the recognition of his culture and it's not so hard to imagine why his personality is how it is. Gotta wonder if the young man is even happy playing the game?
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Say all you want about his culture, but he's the one who decides where to move his feet. He's an autonomous being, not a slave.
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
We would have won. Can't remember the LSU backup Qb's name now but he was a tall kid and they went to the option running game and Chief had no idea how to stop it.
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We also broke their rb Toefield(sp) I believe was his name and the backup came in and ran all over us. I had 50 yd line second row for that debacle.
 
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wrangler said:
Say all you want about his culture, but he's the one who decides where to move his feet. He's an autonomous being, not a slave.
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Easier said than done. Hard for folks in our culture to understand, but in many others, you never go against the wishes of your parents. Family is THE most important thing other than God. In many of those cultures, the children are the parents retirement plan. They are expected to support and obey their parents until they pass away. And they don't consider a nursing home or assisted living to be options. When the parents can no longer live on their own, one of their children takes them in to care for them. I can keep going, but I think it's pretty clear that it's not so easy a thing to go against your parents in a lot of other cultures. I can imagine what Nico is feeling if things are, indeed, the way I suspect they are. I pray he's strong enough to make it through all this. What's sad is that the parents truly don't see it. They think they're guiding their kids and making decisions that will help them be successful in this life. They won't understand the importance of happiness as part of "being successful" until it's too late. Wish the kid the best.
 
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Mccage said:
Lol…he threw in double coverage and missed more wide open recievers than JG
He had 23 career TDs with 17 interceptions
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Did you actually see him play or just look up stats? Rules were much different in that era and offenses, WRs nor QBs received favorable treatment. Game plans and style of play were vastly different too. Heck Johnny Unitas who is one of the greatest players of all time had 290 TDs and 253 INTs.
 
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CAVPUT said:
No one knows how much input Nico did or didn't have in this situation. What I see is a young man who seems to be the exact opposite of his father. Combine that with the recognition of his culture and it's not so hard to imagine why his personality is how it is. Gotta wonder if the young man is even happy playing the game?
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I have this same question.
 
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Namorto1 said:
Did you actually see him play or just look up stats? Rules were much different in that era and offenses, WRs nor QBs received favorable treatment. Game plans and style of play were vastly different too. Heck Johnny Unitas who is one of the greatest players of all time had 290 TDs and 253 INTs.
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Now the excuses.

Tony Robinson was an electric player, but it mostly came from his legs. He was a marginal passer.

Peyton Manning was one of the greatest college and pro QBs of all time.

We can appreciate them both. But when it came to playing the QB position, there is no comparison. It is like saying Donovan McNabb was a better pro QB than Peyton, merely because McNabb was a better runner.
 
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EZE said:
Now the excuses.

Tony Robinson was an electric player, but it mostly came from his legs. He was a marginal passer.

Peyton Manning was one of the greatest college and pro QBs of all time.

We can appreciate them both. But when it came to playing the QB position, there is no comparison. It is like saying Donovan McNabb was a better pro QB than Peyton, merely because McNabb was a better runner.
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You are welcome to your opinion. However the
fact that cornerbacks could manhandle WRs at the line of scrimmage, down the field and re-direct their route, without pass interference isn’t an excuse. That is how the game was played in 80’s. It was worse in 70’s. QBs were not protected either.

Peyton was incredible (and I certainly agree among the greats in college and the NFL) given the 4 year resume he had in college and extended NFL career. I also recognize most see him as the best in UT history but to suggest Tony Robinson was a marginal passer isn’t credible and I would even consider disrespectful.

Yes his legs were an asset but he was a classic drop back passer. He only ran the ball 5x per game at UT, mostly on broken plays. Even John Elway ran the ball more often in college per game than T. Rob. Injuries and drugs got the better of him and we likely never even saw his best given he only had 1.5 seasons to build his resume. For the limited time I saw him I thought he was the best. Just my opinion. Most UT fans don’t agree but what does that matter.

Similarly I think Chuck Webb was the best RB I’ve seen at UT and he too was limited in games due to injuries. Many may not consider him the best RB either. Stats being what they are, Robinson’s completion % was on par and he pushed the ball downfield often as his yards per completion was high. Typically with only 3 receivers or tight ends out in a pattern.

Brady is the Goat in the NFL and he couldn’t run a lick. And no I don’t consider McNabb better than Peyton in the NFL either. But still McNabb was likewise more than a just a runner as a 6x All Pro.
 
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Namorto1 said:
Did you actually see him play or just look up stats? Rules were much different in that era and offenses, WRs nor QBs received favorable treatment. Game plans and style of play were vastly different too. Heck Johnny Unitas who is one of the greatest players of all time had 290 TDs and 253 INTs.
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I saw every game he played. Tim McGee could make a lot of QB’s look good.
Tony did get a Super bowl ring though!
 
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EZE said:
Now the excuses.

Tony Robinson was an electric player, but it mostly came from his legs. He was a marginal passer.

Peyton Manning was one of the greatest college and pro QBs of all time.

We can appreciate them both. But when it came to playing the QB position, there is no comparison. It is like saying Donovan McNabb was a better pro QB than Peyton, merely because McNabb was a better runner.
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Tony Robinson was an extraordinarily gifted passer. I was at all of his UT games. His legs? When he moved out of the pocket he looked like a stork. Not trying to be uppity, but you do not know what you are talking about.
 
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Since they still haven't signed with UCLA (if there is really even an offer), guess Club Nico's is still waiting for someone to magically swoop in at the last moment and save them from their own stupidity.
 
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ttocswob said:
That Corolla will still be going when Nico's career is over.
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Bought a used one in the military. Ice, snow and tornado alley. Front wheel drive. Thing was solid as a rock reliable. Was right there with our VW Rabbit diesel. Now that was a beater.
 
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According to College Sports Saturday Radio “Buy or Sell”…

according to this radio show, which I’m listening to as we speak, the UCLA deal with Nico is on the edge of falling through.

I know the discussion about Nico is really old and stale now, however, I thought this might be worth posting.
 
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Jake said:
According to College Sports Saturday Radio “Buy or Sell”…

according to this radio show, which I’m listening to as we speak, the UCLA deal with Nico is on the edge of falling through.

I know the discussion about Nico is really old and stale now, however, I thought this might be worth posting.
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My guess is that Nico is trying to scare off the other qbs on the roster who fear they may not get a shot at the starting position once Nico signs, and then use the fact they are gone as leverage to demand more. The other qbs will have to make a decision before the portal window closes so I do not expect Nico to sign before then.

Then the fun of increasing demands can really begin!
 
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EZE said:
Now the excuses.

Tony Robinson was an electric player, but it mostly came from his legs. He was a marginal passer.

Peyton Manning was one of the greatest college and pro QBs of all time.

We can appreciate them both. But when it came to playing the QB position, there is no comparison. It is like saying Donovan McNabb was a better pro QB than Peyton, merely because McNabb was a better runner.
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Total BS. TROB could hit his receivers in full stride 60 yards down the field. His passing effectiveness is what set up his running game.
 
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