Next Year: The East

#26
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with the top 3 recruiting classes that kirby is starting to bring in, Ga will be dominating the SEC east for years.
 
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This is exactly right. The guy is a career 170 yard per game passer. He can’t read a defense after 3 seasons. He underthrows wide open receivers downfield, unless it’s a sideline throw where he sails the ball 8 yards out of bounds. And don’t even get time started on how many times he does throws the ball to a receiver well short of the sticks on 3rd down. The guy is not an SEC QB.
 
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Florida takes a small step back next year before taking a couple of steps forward in 2020 and beyond
 
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If Mizzou has even an average QB next year we should be okay (7-8 wins)

If we land transfer QB Kelly Bryant then we could be pretty solid, but still behind Georgia in the East. This team has solid skill players. Secondary will still be easy pickings for any good quarterback, though
 
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CA_Vol said:
I can’t take anyone seriously that believes JG is good.
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I cant take anyone serious that looks at a QB who has a higher completion percentage then Peyton Manning did, but has under 2 seconds to throw the ball!, gets the living hell knocked out of him and is out there!, someone who gives there all for the Vols, and with a good surrounding cast and Oline, could win the east and possibly more for us.
 
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NomadVol said:
Ok, I'm down and need something else to talk about. I'm going to stay away from the coaching angle due to plenty of threads already listed. I will stay positive about our players today (you didnt hear me last night)...

So lets look at the East. I dont do research so this is more you giving info + opinion.

Georgia: Talented and young. Major problem for us for a while.
Florida: Seemed to take to their new staff better than ours. This frustrating since they have some of our former coaches. Starting QB is back but dont know about their trenches. Didnt seem to have many playmakers but were still effective. Due to Mullen a problem for many years.
SC: Talented but may have some players leaving (or Im hoping). Good Defense but Muscamp (sp) seems to underachieve each year. Hoping that we can finally beat him next year.
Mizz: New QB.... hopefully a win next year. Dont know much about them. Please fill me in.
Kentucky: Hopefully Snell is gone. I think they lose a lot. Another win.
Vandy: QB is gone. Seems to have some playmakers on offense though. Hopefully we never lose to them again.

Wow I thought I would feel better, lol. Year two with new recruits...S&C gains...

TENN: D line completely replaced, scary regardless of how bad they were.
Hopefully improved play out of Oline, LBs, DB's (young but looked really good at times), running backs, tight ends. I think JG is good, not great but good.

What say you and ignore my spelling...
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Added problem for TN is that ALL conference games count in the quest to win the east, not just eastern division opponents. So add Alabama and Miss State to the equation.

Sorry, I am probably just too pessimistic with the way we finished this season, but I don't see more than 3 sure wins on the 2019 schedule. Throw in BYU in Knoxville as a maybe. So, for me, a significantly improved W-L record in 2019 would be a nice surprise, but I honestly don't expect it. The most I feel I can expect from this team is more competitiveness and fight, even in losses. No more blowout games that are over before half time. That would be a good place to start having hope again.
 
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Chitlin&theDude said:
Florida will win in the East. GA will come in second. (FL will play AL in championship game... again) The SEC is so predictable it's boring.
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Beyond wrong. UGA is bringing in another historic class. Better get ready for mini-Bama to reign the East for awhile, unless something big happens.
 
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Mostly agree with OP.

Mizzou has been living off an elite rpo qb and will take a big step back.

Vandy will take a step back, but be competitive.

UK loses A LOT off that elite D.

I could see USC, UF, UGA improving, though a gator fan just came in and said small step back, so I will willfully listen to them.

I see 6 wins. Maybe 7. 4 OOCs, UK, and 1 of Mizzou, Vandy, USC. Miss St will be an enigma.
 
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MAUSERWERKE said:
Added problem for TN is that ALL conference games count in the quest to win the east, not just eastern division opponents. So add Alabama and Miss State to the equation.

Sorry, I am probably just too pessimistic with the way we finished this season, but I don't see more than 3 sure wins on the 2019 schedule. Throw in BYU in Knoxville as a maybe. So, for me, a significantly improved W-L record in 2019 would be a nice surprise, but I honestly don't expect it. The most I feel I can expect from this team is more competitiveness and fight, even in losses. No more blowout games that are over before half time. That would be a good place to start having hope again.
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I hadnt looked at the schedule. Winning the east never crossed my mind. Hoping for baby steps, literally. :cool:
 
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KCMOTIGERS said:
If Mizzou has even an average QB next year we should be okay (7-8 wins)

If we land transfer QB Kelly Bryant then we could be pretty solid, but still behind Georgia in the East. This team has solid skill players. Secondary will still be easy pickings for any good quarterback, though
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Please get Kelly Bryant
 
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backdoorcutvol said:
It may get worse before it gets better, but it will get better. We may need to pick up some jucos that might be able to contribute immediately.
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Jucos are dicey at best. Kamara, though seldom used, is the recent exception. Otherwise, Blair, Kongbo, Weatherd, Henderson, Riyadh Jones, Jonathan Johnson, Woody Quinn, Dimarya Mixon, Jeff George, etc, etc. By and large they just don’t pan out.
 
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WestTnHawk said:
I can't take anyone who thinks that seriously. Do you just not watch football? Maybe your one of those fantasy football guys that just don't get the actual game? Shame sir, shame...
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Dude doesn’t know who Coach Doug Mathews is. Only knows Peyton Manning as the guy in the insurance commercials with Brad Paisley. Jury still out if he’s ever heard of David Cutcliffe, Phil Fulmer and John Ward. Take his opinion on Tennessee football with a large grain of salt.
 
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NomadVol said:
Ok, I'm down and need something else to talk about. I'm going to stay away from the coaching angle due to plenty of threads already listed. I will stay positive about our players today (you didnt hear me last night)...

So lets look at the East. I dont do research so this is more you giving info + opinion.

Georgia: Talented and young. Major problem for us for a while.
Florida: Seemed to take to their new staff better than ours. This frustrating since they have some of our former coaches. Starting QB is back but dont know about their trenches. Didnt seem to have many playmakers but were still effective. Due to Mullen a problem for many years.
SC: Talented but may have some players leaving (or Im hoping). Good Defense but Muscamp (sp) seems to underachieve each year. Hoping that we can finally beat him next year.
Mizz: New QB.... hopefully a win next year. Dont know much about them. Please fill me in.
Kentucky: Hopefully Snell is gone. I think they lose a lot. Another win.
Vandy: QB is gone. Seems to have some playmakers on offense though. Hopefully we never lose to them again.

Wow I thought I would feel better, lol. Year two with new recruits...S&C gains...

TENN: D line completely replaced, scary regardless of how bad they were.
Hopefully improved play out of Oline, LBs, DB's (young but looked really good at times), running backs, tight ends. I think JG is good, not great but good.

What say you and ignore my spelling...
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Less than 6 wins next year if JG is the QB.
 
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I'm not going to make any guesses about Kentucky until aftet their bowl game. Mark Stoops has managed to either slowly improve or hold steady every year he's been in Lexington. The big question I have with him is, is he at his peak, or does he still have room to grow.
 
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TNfan#2 said:
I'm not going to make any guesses about Kentucky until aftet their bowl game. Mark Stoops has managed to either slowly improve or hold steady every year he's been in Lexington. The big question I have with him is, is he at his peak, or does he still have room to grow.
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It's pretty simple - the fans there have been patient, so he played the long game and finally built up to a pinnacle season, starting 13 seniors and 11 redshirts. That team will be devastated next season. But good for them having patience and their best season in 50 or 60 years iirc.
 
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njvols said:
Schedule is set up to have some success, but I just don’t know that we will be in position to capitalize...again.
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If "capitalize" means winning the East, then clearly not. But BYU and turnover amongst teams in the East should allow us to get out of the cellar and maybe create some recruiting momentum.

Will take a bunch of more talent before we will have a sliver of hope of topping UGA, especially having Bama on the schedule every year. 2015 and 2016 were our best chances, given a 10 year span, and we blew them. Hope lies 2020 and beyond.
 
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Devo182 said:
If "capitalize" means winning the East, then clearly not. But BYU and turnover amongst teams in the East should allow us to get out of the cellar and maybe create some recruiting momentum.

Will take a bunch of more talent before we will have a sliver of hope of topping UGA, especially having Bama on the schedule every year. 2015 and 2016 were our best chances, given a 10 year span, and we blew them. Hope lies 2020 and beyond.
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Capitalize, to me, means 7-5 or 8-4 for year 2...and part of that means closing out November, and not getting throttled in losses (other than maybe UGA and Bama). Pruitt will be under much scrutiny if he tanks November again. Vandy and Miz lose good QB's, KY loses a ton of players, and Miss St loses their QB. Importance of good QB play can't be under estimated, and see some regression of a few of our rivals.
 
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WestTnHawk said:
I can't take anyone who thinks that seriously. Do you just not watch football? Maybe your one of those fantasy football guys that just don't get the actual game? Shame sir, shame...
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Wait, you watched the games and thought JG was GOOD? Are you on disability?
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Georgia on top.

Probably USC and us battling it out for second place.
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You don't think UF will be a factor? I sure do. I know they may lose a bunch of players, but they live in what could honestly be called a football recruiting paradise. They won't have much fall off, if any, IMHO.
 
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NomadVol said:
Ok, I'm down and need something else to talk about. I'm going to stay away from the coaching angle due to plenty of threads already listed. I will stay positive about our players today (you didnt hear me last night)...

So lets look at the East. I dont do research so this is more you giving info + opinion.

Georgia: Talented and young. Major problem for us for a while.
Florida: Seemed to take to their new staff better than ours. This frustrating since they have some of our former coaches. Starting QB is back but dont know about their trenches. Didnt seem to have many playmakers but were still effective. Due to Mullen a problem for many years.
SC: Talented but may have some players leaving (or Im hoping). Good Defense but Muscamp (sp) seems to underachieve each year. Hoping that we can finally beat him next year.
Mizz: New QB.... hopefully a win next year. Dont know much about them. Please fill me in.
Kentucky: Hopefully Snell is gone. I think they lose a lot. Another win.
Vandy: QB is gone. Seems to have some playmakers on offense though. Hopefully we never lose to them again.

Wow I thought I would feel better, lol. Year two with new recruits...S&C gains...

TENN: D line completely replaced, scary regardless of how bad they were.
Hopefully improved play out of Oline, LBs, DB's (young but looked really good at times), running backs, tight ends. I think JG is good, not great but good.

What say you and ignore my spelling...
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Completely wrong about us. Our defense absolutely sucks. Our QB threw for 500+ yards and 5 tds Saturday against Clemsun. We lost by 3 scores. Our defense is simply horrible. Y'all even lit us up.
 
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