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SamRebel35 said:
I haven't seen effective 3rd down defense in over a decade from Tennessee. I'm ready for that to be a strength. Still isn't as of yet.
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I hear ya. The last five years have had some real low points. I would reassure myself by saying even good teams have bad games against inferior teams, but the past few years prevent that. We've had a lot of crappy games against A LOT of inferior teams.
 
#2,760
#2,760
Guys we are an inferior team. We have a pathetically slow, fundamentally unsound (which exponentially magnifies the pathetic slowness) defense. A absolutely horrid pair of QBs, and WRs that don't know what they are doing, and when they somehow do the right thing they either...A. Drop the ball... B. The horrid Qb on duty at that moment throws the ball nowhere near them.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
It is what it is and it is bad.
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You would not believe how many people in crappabama wanted to get rid of Saban his first year. Especially after LMU. They were saying the exact same stupid shizz, that our stupida$$ fanbase is saying about Butch. Butch ain't Saban, but I he is a good coach. I watched Cinci 's bowl game last year, and I saw a really well coached, fundamentally sound football team. Saban did have a little more to work with at Bammer too. That is how he was able to add just a few key pieces, and coach up the underachieving players that he already had, to win big at Bammer his second year. That ain't gonna happen for Butch.
 
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#2,763
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I'm not saying that Butch is bad, but what he inherited was a colossal mess. Two words to generally describe our fanbase. Impatient and stupid. That's not a good formula for Tennessee getting back to greatness anytime soon.
 
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#2,764
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The physical talent is there to be in the middle of the pack or maybe even the top third in sec. The problem, however, is that these guys were poisoned by Dooley and were mentally conditioned to be losers. That's our biggest hurdle right now. Once we get past that, it will all start clicking.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
The physical talent is there to be in the middle of the pack or maybe even the top third in sec. The problem, however, is that these guys were poisoned by Dooley and were mentally conditioned to be losers. That's our biggest hurdle right now. Once we get past that, it will all start clicking.
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Where is this talent on defense that you speak of? They are slow and unathletic, Plus bad football instincts, and intangibles.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
I'm not saying that Butch is bad, but what he inherited was a colossal mess. Two words to generally describe our fanbase. Impatient and stupid. That's not a good formula for Tennessee getting back to greatness anytime soon.
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I know what you meant brother. I was just posting some random thoughts. Not directed at anyone here. We have the stupidest fanbase in CFB. Or at least top 3.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Where is this talent on defense that you speak of? They are slow and unathletic, Plus bad football instincts, and intangibles.
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We lead the country in interceptions. That's something. At least half the SEC would trade up to get our starters on D for their physical abilities. They would still have to be mentally rehabbed.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
We lead the country in interceptions. That's something. At least half the SEC would trade up to get our starters on D for their physical abilities. They would still have to be mentally rehabbed.
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Yes that is something, but as far as the fundamentals of tackling, angles, setting the edge, and just plain stubborn toughness. Dude they suck. I love em for being Vols, but they suck. And they are so freaking slow at so many positions. There is some talent, but it is disjointed and non complimentary talent.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Yes that is something, but as far as the fundamentals of tackling, angles, setting the edge, and just plain stubborn toughness. Dude they suck. I love em for being Vols, but they suck. And they are so freaking slow at so many positions. There is some talent, but it is disjointed and non complimentary talent.
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I wouldn't ever say the word "sucks" to anyone who wears the orange.

Gotta remember Ruck, some of these guys have seen three different coaches and three different styles of play. It takes time to unlearn bad habits (or even learn good ones to start with) and that's a time consuming process. But I will say I have seen their stubbornness coming out. They haven't quit yet, save the Oregon game maybe. And we would have packed it in last year had we been in the same situation last year with Florida after three interceptions. But they clawed their way back into the game and continued til the clock read 0:00.

As for the talent, lot of young kids out there that tossed into the fire as freshmen and sophomores that have never seen anything by a high school stadium before. Gonna take some time to build the potential talent up.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I wouldn't ever say the word "sucks" to anyone who wears the orange.

Gotta remember Ruck, some of these guys have seen three different coaches and three different styles of play. It takes time to unlearn bad habits (or even learn good ones to start with) and that's a time consuming process. But I will say I have seen their stubbornness coming out. They haven't quit yet, save the Oregon game maybe. And we would have packed it in last year had we been in the same situation last year with Florida after three interceptions. But they clawed their way back into the game and continued til the clock read 0:00.

As for the talent, lot of young kids out there that tossed into the fire as freshmen and sophomores that have never seen anything by a high school stadium before. Gonna take some time to build the potential talent up.
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You're right I shouldn't say that they suck. I am just saying that they are just not good, and it is going to take a near miracle from this staff to wipe the stench of losing, and bad habits off of them. One thing that is just infuriating to no end to me, is they just keep giving up these big a$$ plays on third down. I know it isn't on the coaches. These guys have been taught, and shown over, and over, and over what they have are doing wrong, and how to correct it. Then they go out and do the same stupid crap again. That is just unfathomable to me. It is not on the coach when you see guys be in position to make a play, and blow it, or blow their assignments. :blink: Anyways sorry for using the word sucks. I agree that is over the line.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
You're right I shouldn't say that they suck. I am just saying that they are just not good, and it is going to take a near miracle from this staff to wipe the stench of losing, and bad habits off of them. One thing that is just infuriating to no end to me, is they just keep giving up these big a$$ plays on third down. I know it isn't on the coaches. These guys have been taught, and shown over, and over, and over what they have are doing wrong, and how to correct it. Then they go out and do the same stupid crap again. That is just unfathomable to me. It is not on the coach when you see guys be in position to make a play, and blow it, or blow their assignments. :blink: Anyways sorry for using the word sucks. I agree that is over the line.
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Meh, no biggie. All of us want to see the team rise again. I'm just as impatient as everyone else, just tend to hide it better lol
 
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