NCAA 11 Official Tournament Bracket Thread

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govols182 said:
Bass...if you end up playing him I want you to cheese the crap put of him.
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oh - I will - the problem is he's had months of playing cheese style and has perfected it - so I won't be good at exploiting the game like he will be.. so it might be better to pick and choose were I cheese. But I also may just refuse to play if the cheeser is allowed to continue - not like I'd beat volball anyway and I don't feel like wasting an hour of my life playing a cheeser in denial.
 
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Im not part of any cliche. Never played a single 360 player on here. So I consider myself unbiased in this matter.

Show blitz toggling is cheese. Pitching the option after your qb would have his arms pinned to his sides mid tackle is cheese. Rocket catching its cheese, but I'd argue that he couldn't pull that little feat off with UTs receiving corp, I dont think anyone had the stats to pull it off. The connection issues are sketchy too.

I'm not saying he's a cheeser, I'm just saying I have to wonder if he likes to be spread on crackers or cut into small cubes.
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Bassmanbruno said:
running the same play over and over and over and over and over is cheese. Ask any legit sim dynasty. Go on operation sports and ask right now. Case closed.
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Are those the rules we're going by? Sounds like he couldn't stop it but it can be for sure.
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Bassmanbruno said:
running the same play over and over and over and over and over is cheese. Ask any legit sim dynasty. Go on operation sports and ask right now. Case closed.
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I don't see him winning so it's a moot point now. You, R2P, and VolBall are supposedly the top 3. I would like to think I'm above average and there is still ColVol. He's a known suspected cheeser now so he's either gonna cut back or get caught and either way he'll probably be out when he plays you so let it happen.
 
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govols/cc said:
Are those the rules we're going by? Sounds like he couldn't stop it but it can be for sure.
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We've always considered someone who runs like 3-4 plays a game a cheeser. Especially if they run one play like 70% of the time like this guy was doing apparently on his run plays.
 
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BearCat204 said:
IP is not even in the top three broseph. You just cant get it through your head that using exploits in a sim tourney is bs and is grounds to be tossed. He provided a video of your rocket catch and you have clearly stated that "the rules" are crazy.
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The problem I have is this. If I see something and you don't adjust to it then why should I not attack it? I was what you guys call "rocket catching" him to death. I ran the ball all game. I got the momentum early and kept it. When he threw the two picks to start the game it really hurt all of his chances at winning.
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ShanMan said:
Im not part of any cliche. Never played a single 360 player on here. So I consider myself unbiased in this matter.

Show blitz toggling is cheese. Pitching the option after your qb would have his arms pinned to his sides mid tackle is cheese. Rocket catching its cheese, but I'd argue that he couldn't pull that little feat off with UTs receiving corp, I dont think anyone had the stats to pull it off. The connection issues are sketchy too.

I'm not saying he's a cheeser, I'm just saying I have to wonder if he likes to be spread on crackers or cut into small cubes.
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With the online lag it's impossible to make an option pitch by a set of silly rules. It's in the game.
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Alright, I am dropping this for now. I've said my piece. I realize that ultimately this is a he said/she said sort of deal. I just ask the decision-makers look at everything that was said in response to my accusation, and what was NOT said in response to it.

If he advances on, so be it. Go Bassman. If he is DQ'ed, I still forfeit in deference of some of the stated fears of this being a "clique" thing.
 
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Im not taking sides at all. I play in "sim" dynasties and "arcade" dynasties. The first video wasn't a quote "Rocket Catch". A "Rocket Catch" is when your wr turns facing the ball and goes up off of 2 feet completely vertical to catch the ball. It was a user catch. The pump faking, toggling the show blitz and running an option "as stated" multiple times in two consectutive games with SIMMS shows that Breaker is an arcade player. Thats not a knock. It's just saying he isn't a sim style player. Its that simple. Total and complete guidlines of what was/was not acceptable "sim" style weren't posted but expected. Good luck sorting this mess out.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
We've always considered someone who runs like 3-4 plays a game a cheeser. Especially if they run one play like 70% of the time like this guy was doing apparently on his run plays.
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So people should mix it up & not run plays YOU can't stop. Sounds smart. Any basic run play can be stopped with decent D.
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The Breakerboy said:
The problem I have is this. If I see something and you don't adjust to it then why should I not attack it? I was what you guys call "rocket catching" him to death. I ran the ball all game. I got the momentum early and kept it. When he threw the two picks to start the game it really hurt all of his chances at winning.
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You ran it in the second half except on 3rd and longs, dude. Just stop.
 
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govols/cc said:
With the online lag it's impossible to make an option pitch by a set of silly rules. It's in the game.
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It's fairly obvious when they time it - on multiple documented occasions - to wait till the QB is halfway on the ground.

I've NEVER had trouble online pitching it at an appropriate time. There has been times when legit players have accidentally pitched it late - but they apologized and it didn't happen again.. breakerboy did it atleast 4 times in the past 2 games.
 
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I ran option once or twice all game. This is what really bothers me. I was pitching the ball way before I was getting tackled. He happened to pitch it late. Probably because it's Matt Simms running it. I tried to not run the score up in this game. I play a soft defense the whole second half and I still get bashed for this crap. I post the score and got attacked.
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Return2Power said:
Im not taking sides at all. I play in "sim" dynasties and "arcade" dynasties. The first video wasn't a quote "Rocket Catch". A "Rocket Catch" is when your wr turns facing the ball and goes up off of 2 feet completely vertical to catch the ball. It was a user catch. The pump faking, toggling the show blitz and running an option "as stated" multiple times in two consectutive games with SIMMS shows that Breaker is an arcade player. Thats not a knock. It's just saying he isn't a sim style player. Its that simple. Total and complete guidlines of what was/was not acceptable "sim" style weren't posted but expected. Good luck sorting this mess out.
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How can you tell a person is toggling show blitz? Is it the same as jamming wr's. If you're in man coverage the safeties come up too.
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The Breakerboy said:
I ran option once or twice all game. This is what really bothers me. I was pitching the ball way before I was getting tackled. He happened to pitch it late. Probably because it's Matt Simms running it. I tried to not run the score up in this game. I play a soft defense the whole second half and I still get bashed for this crap. I post the score and got attacked.
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If you notice, I actually posted the first time before even half time.
 
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govols/cc said:
So people should mix it up & not run plays YOU can't stop. Sounds smart. Any basic run play can be stopped with decent D.
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Not what I said at all. But running the same play 70% of the time is cheesing and it's that simple. Having a playbook consisting of 3-4 plays is also cheese. It's not realistic.
 
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govols/cc said:
How can you tell a person is toggling show blitz? Is it the same as jamming wr's. If you're in man coverage the safeties come up too.
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Because you can see the guys freaking out and running back and forth before the snap like they have some kind of syndrome.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
It's fairly obvious when they time it - on multiple documented occasions - to wait till the QB is halfway on the ground.

I've NEVER had trouble online pitching it at an appropriate time. There has been times when legit players have accidentally pitched it late - but they apologized and it didn't happen again.. breakerboy did it atleast 4 times in the past 2 games.
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Complaining about Simms running the option is kind of silly.
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govols/cc said:
How can you tell a person is toggling show blitz? Is it the same as jamming wr's. If you're in man coverage the safeties come up too.
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The secondary constantly moves back and forth, back and forth. They don't stop moving. We aren't talking about just doing "show blitz."

His comment about the ravens doing it, or sometimes cheesers mention the Prowler of Chavis' day, is irrelevant because the problem is that in this game it makes defenders react at full top sprint speed immediately at the snap, bypassing the locomotion/acceleration time.
 
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ZWVol11 said:
I don't see him winning so it's a moot point now. You, R2P, and VolBall are supposedly the top 3. I would like to think I'm above average and there is still ColVol. He's a known suspected cheeser now so he's either gonna cut back or get caught and either way he'll probably be out when he plays you so let it happen.
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I suck man don't worry about me. lulz
 
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