Naomi White

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I’m excited for White, she really has a scorers mentality and has a bag. Scores all over the floor and rebounds well for a guard.
Her numbers are definitely going to go down here just because she won't get the playing time she got there. I just hope she can keep the efficiency cause it doesn't matter how much one person scores as long as the entire team is efficient as a group. Last year we had like two efficient players everyone else well below.
 
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Shot 200 long 2s last year, only slightly less than her 3s. Needs to greatly reduce that number, and that alone will do wonders for her offensive rating.

Actually shot worse in long 2s than in 3s. 33.5% vs 36.3%. So that's 0.67 points per long 2 vs 1.09 points per 3. [different muscle memory + more contested since the long 2 area is where the defenders will be?]
 
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I mean cool and all but her being 5'9" and never playing against the likes of UConn and South Carolina is going to be a real eye opener. Much more athletic and bigger.

I do wonder about the size (height) differences. Taller players are more difficult to shoot over.

These two new players are good 3-point shooters if open and unchallenged. Hope they can continue the trend but realize that is these percentages will more than likely go down against the talent in the SEC.

The offense needs to change to work for an open shot, not just continue to throw up a prayer.
 
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I do wonder about the size (height) differences. Taller players are more difficult to shoot over.

These two new players are good 3-point shooters if open and unchallenged. Hope they can continue the trend but realize that is these percentages will more than likely go down against the talent in the SEC.

The offense needs to change to work for an open shot, not just continue to throw up a prayer.

Tell that to all the 5’8”-5’10” guards like Blakes, McGill and Chavez tearing up the SEC. It’s not about size so much as it is heart, positioning and skill.
 
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Tell that to all the 5’8”-5’10” guards like Blakes, McGill and Chavez tearing up the SEC. It’s not about size so much as it is heart, positioning and skill.

Who you play matters - I know some don't want to consider the opponent but the opponent matters!

Example from the men's game: Miami of Ohio averaged 39% from the 3-point line as a team. That is how they ended up 33-1 as they lived by the 3-point shot. Then they played Tennessee and were 7 of 29 (24%) and basically were never in the game.

The opponent matters.
 
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That all said I hope she does great - goodness knows we will need it. Just that we need to pump the brakes on thinking these new players will make shots at the same percentage they did while playing for a mid-major team. There will undoubtedly be a drop off against the top teams with better players.
I am very happy that Naomi is a Lady Vol. I very much hope she does well, but it’s always best to take a more centered approach with expectations. As a society in general, we love to build people up just to tear them down.
 
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Tell that to all the 5’8”-5’10” guards like Blakes, McGill and Chavez tearing up the SEC. It’s not about size so much as it is heart, positioning and skill.
Okay but McGill for example was a McDonald's All-American and is the highest ranked recruit in UF women's history. NW redshirted at Grand Canyon before finally getting to play at NAU. There's a big difference, still.
 
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That all said I hope she does great - goodness knows we will need it. Just that we need to pump the brakes on thinking these new players will make shots at the same percentage they did while playing for a mid-major team. There will undoubtedly be a drop off against the top teams with better players.
Well when a freshman like 4 Star Aubery Galvan 5" 6" Vandy, SEC Freshman of the year, who a lot said yeah she put up good numbers vs high schoolers but she will be in the SEC and will hardly get a shot off playing with Blakes. Besides she wasn't a McD All American. So to come on here an accentuate the negative & eliminate any positive IMO is telling.
 
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Tell that to all the 5’8”-5’10” guards like Blakes, McGill and Chavez tearing up the SEC. It’s not about size so much as it is heart, positioning and skill.
situationally true but is there a ceiling? Meaning a point at which you do have to balance and offset it with size?

I have often wondered this when certain UT teams of old would show up and commentators and analysts would go on and on about our size and length. I could see it overwhelming the other team quickly, alongside the sheer magnitude of the talent gap. I also feel like UCLAs size really bothered several teams this year, including South Carolina. What do you think?
 
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Well when a freshman like 4 Star Aubery Galvan 5" 6" Vandy, SEC Freshman of the year, who a lot said yeah she put up good numbers vs high schoolers but she will be in the SEC and will hardly get a shot off playing with Blakes. Besides she wasn't a McD All American. So to come on here an accentuate the negative & eliminate any positive IMO is telling.
It's being realistic. UCLA, SC and UConn are so good every year because they have really talented players, and many of them are also bigger/athletic than most other players. Jimmy's and Joe's matter at the end of the day. It's great that we got a really good shooter, but we need to pump the brakes a little. Her having the best shooting percentage in the country from playing in the Big Sky is not guaranteed to automatically translate to the SEC — it probably won't.
 
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I am very happy that Naomi is a Lady Vol. I very much hope she does well, but it’s always best to take a more centered approach with expectations. As a society in general, we love to build people up just to tear them down.
Sometimes we set players up in a tough spot with outsized expectations. When those expectations aren’t grounded in reality, the letdown on the other side can be just as extreme and that’s often what drives the tear down. People feel disappointed because the player didn’t match what was projected, not necessarily what they actually are.

Meanwhile, what the player does bring can still be valuable and worth genuine excitement. Some things are still unknown and need time. Some things might be weaknesses and that’s normal too.

With more balanced expectations, there’s room for development, for growth, for real evaluation. Not every player has to be 100x better than anyone we’ve had on Rocky Top to matter. They can be valuable for what they are, right now, while still evolving.

I don’t know if it’s hype, hope, or something else but those runaway expectations don’t ever help the player or the program in the long run.
 
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Well when a freshman like 4 Star Aubery Galvan 5" 6" Vandy, SEC Freshman of the year, who a lot said yeah she put up good numbers vs high schoolers but she will be in the SEC and will hardly get a shot off playing with Blakes. Besides she wasn't a McD All American. So to come on here an accentuate the negative & eliminate any positive IMO is telling.

Doesn’t tell anything other than someone else’s opinion. Besides, this will be an experiment by Caldwell for the ages.
 
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situationally true but is there a ceiling? Meaning a point at which you do have to balance and offset it with size?

I have often wondered this when certain UT teams of old would show up and commentators and analysts would go on and on about our size and length. I could see it overwhelming the other team quickly, alongside the sheer magnitude of the talent gap. I also feel like UCLAs size really bothered several teams this year, including South Carolina. What do you think?

The game has changed terrifically since that time. Both in how it’s played and how it’s officiated. It’s a much more perimeter oriented game.

Having one talented big makes a huge difference but look at the Final Four. Guard play is what got all of those teams there, including UCLA. Betts was formidable in the paint but without Rice, Jaquez and Kneepkens they were nothing.
 
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I am very happy that Naomi is a Lady Vol. I very much hope she does well, but it’s always best to take a more centered approach with expectations. As a society in general, we love to build people up just to tear them down.

Which is exactly what we did with the players who left.
 
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It's being realistic. UCLA, SC and UConn are so good every year because they have really talented players, and many of them are also bigger/athletic than most other players. Jimmy's and Joe's matter at the end of the day. It's great that we got a really good shooter, but we need to pump the brakes a little. Her having the best shooting percentage in the country from playing in the Big Sky is not guaranteed to automatically translate to the SEC — it probably won't.
Appreciate your effort and of course what you’re saying is true. But we’ve kind of low-key agreed not to talk reality this cycle. It’s way too depressing.Lol folks working so hard towards acceptance.
The game has changed terrifically since that time. Both in how it’s played and how it’s officiated. It’s a much more perimeter oriented game.

Having one talented big makes a huge difference but look at the Final Four. Guard play is what got all of those teams there, including UCLA. Betts was formidable in the paint but without Rice, Jaquez and Kneepkens they were nothing.
Right. Versatility. Flexibility. Capable of different approaches because of a roster well balanced in size. Sounds like a winner to me. I’m so tired of a coach with tunnel vision.
The second half of the season was when Mia disappeared. Don't know for what reason, but she was turning it over going 2 for 10 in almost every game from middle of the season to the end. I guess it could be blamed on getting hit in the head in a couple of games or just a freshman wall. She is going to be a really good player freshman are always inconsistent at least most of them.
The second half of the season was a huge step up in competition. Night and day between the first and second halves. That and a hard knock on the head is what happened to Mia

Many of our incoming players will be making a similar step up in competition level. It’s a big challenge. Hopefully they’ll do well.
 
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Appreciate your effort and of course what you’re saying is true. But we’ve kind of low-key agreed not to talk reality this cycle. It’s way too depressing.Lol folks working so hard towards acceptance.

Right. Versatility. Flexibility. Capable of different approaches because of a roster well balanced in size. Sounds like a winner to me. I’m so tired of a coach with tunnel vision.

The second half of the season was a huge step up in competition. Night and day between the first and second halves. That and a hard knock on the head is what happened to Mia

Many of our incoming players will be making a similar step up in competition level. It’s a big challenge. Hopefully they’ll do well.
Hopefully they won't be so demoralized that they will be damaged when they look for a team the next year.
 
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Appreciate your effort and of course what you’re saying is true. But we’ve kind of low-key agreed not to talk reality this cycle. It’s way too depressing.Lol folks working so hard towards acceptance.

Right. Versatility. Flexibility. Capable of different approaches because of a roster well balanced in size. Sounds like a winner to me. I’m so tired of a coach with tunnel vision.

The second half of the season was a huge step up in competition. Night and day between the first and second halves. That and a hard knock on the head is what happened to Mia

Many of our incoming players will be making a similar step up in competition level. It’s a big challenge. Hopefully they’ll do well.
Apparently, you can’t even compliment a player but say you would like for them to shoot better from 3 without many coming to “well actually….” I feel sorry for some of these girls coming in if people don’t start to see a teeny bit of reality that everyone needs adjustment and to better themselves. I know the first moment these players start to shoot a little poorly, turn the ball over a few times, force a shot, or look the slightest bit uncomfortable then some of these posters will start to question their entire character.
 
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#49
Apparently, you can’t even compliment a player but say you would like for them to shoot better from 3 without many coming to “well actually….” I feel sorry for some of these girls coming in if people don’t start to see a teeny bit of reality that everyone needs adjustment and to better themselves. I know the first moment these players start to shoot a little poorly, turn the ball over a few times, force a shot, or look the slightest bit uncomfortable then some of these posters will start to question their entire character.
If the players can’t handle fans criticisms than high level basketball isn’t for them.
 

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