My vision of the New SEC after all this is done

#26
#26
No we wouldn't, VT gives us a new market, Clemson doesn't.

The Clemson market has to be about as good as the VT market. That said, I think they're both garbage. They wouldn't add enough that every member school would notice a difference.
 
#27
#27
That's actually a very balanced system right there. If there are going to be four divisions, Tennessee sets itself up very well both geographically and with rivalries to be lumped in with Vandy and UK, and therefore, an easier division.
 
#28
#28
you can forget georgia tech, clemson, florida state, miami, or louisville being a member of the SEC.

you need a 75% vote to accept a new member.

my understanding is that the athletic directors at georgia, florida, kentucky, and south carolina would have each other's back if one of those was nominated to receive an invite.
 
#29
#29
if your going to dream, dream big...
SEC WEST... TEXAS, OKLAHOMA, TEXAS A&M, OKLAHOMA STATE
SEC SOUTH... LSU, ARKANSAS, OLE MISS, MISS STATE
SEC EAST.... ALABAMA, AUBURN, FLORIDA, GEORGIA,
SEC NORTH... TENNESSEE, SOUTH CAROLINA, VANDY, KENTUCKY (not that I tried to stack the odds in favor of the vols)

Yeah, that would really work= Your divisions are really fair and balanced :lolabove:
 
#31
#31
NCAA will not allow two post season games and a bowl game except in Kick-off games. Never for a whole conference, every year.
 
#32
#32
Dan Radacovich, the AD at Georgia Tech came from working as assistant AD or something around there at LSU. I am 100% that he would want Georgia Tech in the SEC.

Now, if the SEC wants Tech in there is another story. They would be great for baseball, football, and basketball. The fan base sucks though.
 
#33
#33
Too bad Kansasisnt a little closer to the south, that would be a huge get for the b-ball side of the SEC.
 
#35
#35
Regardless of what or how many teams are added, I don't see them splitting the SEC up in 4 divisions. I believe it will remain at 2. The east and the west.
 
#36
#36
After it's all said and done, here's my prediction:

West
Miss
Miss State
LSU
Auburn
Alabama
Arkansas

East
Florida
Vandy
TN
Georgia
South Carolina
Kentucky
 
#39
#39
Its all a moot point now. With the Big 12ish officially staying together, this expansion talk is done.
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#40
#40
So the Big 12 is staying together? I've been busy moving to Dallas that I haven't had time to stay up to date on the conference expansions. Last I heard was that the Big 12 would be no more but that was a few days ago.
 
#42
#42
All because Texas is scared of the Sec.

Texas' preference was to stay in a conference where they were in control and could start their own network. They weren't scared of the SEC, they just didn't feel they could maximize their $$$ value here. There were never discussions between the SEC and Texas.

This isn't about on-field competition, it was 100% about money. If Texas thought the most money would come from being in the SEC, then they would have been here. That wasn't going to be the case.

Texas needed rid of Nebraska, that's exactly what they accomplished. They also succeeded in getting the recruiting perception advantage over the other Big12ish schools.
 
#43
#43
Its all a moot point now. With the Big 12ish officially staying together, this expansion talk is done.
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For right now the talk is done but let's not kid ourselves that the other schools see what happened, they were used as leverage to get Texas the deal that was best for them. Texas was perfectly willing to blow it up to get what they wanted and use the other schools involved as leverage. Now that the dust has settled the resentment will build, even though other schools have gotten a little more money Texas walks away with the biggest piece of the pie.

In short the problems that lead up to the resentment other schools had have been perpetuated even further, it is going to be a problem for some time to come in that conference and it will not survive it again.
 
#44
#44
Texas' preference was to stay in a conference where they were in control and could start their own network. They weren't scared of the SEC, they just didn't feel they could maximize their $$$ value here. There were never discussions between the SEC and Texas.

This isn't about on-field competition, it was 100% about money. If Texas thought the most money would come from being in the SEC, then they would have been here. That wasn't going to be the case.

Texas needed rid of Nebraska, that's exactly what they accomplished. They also succeeded in getting the recruiting perception advantage over the other Big12ish schools.

And the reason they needed to be rid of Nebraska was obvious, Nebraska was a thorn in their side because of the resentment due to inequality. That inequality hasn't been addressed, exactly it is just the opposite and it will only be a matter of time before the problem surfaces again.
 
#45
#45
And the reason they needed to be rid of Nebraska was obvious, Nebraska was a thorn in their side because of the resentment due to inequality. That inequality hasn't been addressed, exactly it is just the opposite and it will only be a matter of time before the problem surfaces again.

Yeah, Nebraska had been resentful since the Big Eight became the Big 12, and the power off the field shifted from Lincoln to Austin.

The other schools may be resentful, but you have to remember that they don't really have anywhere to go. For all of the fan speculation and wishing, the SEC wasn't ever going to do anything proactive here.

Slive did meet with Texas A&M, but told them the SEC would only consider an application for membership from them if the Big 12 had officially dissolved. The SEC wasn't going to be a driving force in realignment under any circumstances and won't be going forward.

The remaining Big 12 schools are going to get their money from this new contract and aren't going anywhere.

The ACC schools just signed an SEC-like TV deal with ESPN and they're happy with their money.

I suppose you could argue that BigEast schools are vulnerable, but not one of those programs adds anything to the SEC. Not one.
 
#46
#46
Texas' preference was to stay in a conference where they were in control and could start their own network. They weren't scared of the SEC, they just didn't feel they could maximize their $$$ value here. There were never discussions between the SEC and Texas.

This isn't about on-field competition, it was 100% about money. If Texas thought the most money would come from being in the SEC, then they would have been here. That wasn't going to be the case.

Texas needed rid of Nebraska, that's exactly what they accomplished. They also succeeded in getting the recruiting perception advantage over the other Big12ish schools.


I think Texas is more than happy to play in a BCS conference where they have one tough opponent in a season OU. Sec is a minefield every year. A team goes undefeated in the Sec they deserve to play for the BCS championship. No other conference can even come close.
 

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