Murray And Pollack

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Creamsicle82 said:
Not sure anyone is scared of a team with a first time HC that went 0-8 last year and is just .500 in the conference over the last 20 years.

Still not a good look for Pollack and Murray, tho.
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When Tennessee is any good at all - they usually beat Georgia. Tennessee has won 2 of the last 3 and the series is just 8-6 in their favor since '04. That is much better than Tennessee has done against either Florida or Alabama, obviously.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
When Tennessee is any good at all - they usually beat Georgia. Tennessee has won 2 of the last 3 and the series is just 8-6 in their favor since '04. That is much better than Tennessee has done against either Florida or Alabama, obviously.
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The better team usually beats the inferior team.

But UT is only 23-22-2 all time. That’s not “usually beating” another team. That’s about as close to even as it gets.

And 3-7 in the last decade.

And 41-0 at Neyland last year. Worse than they beat Vandy.

Pruitt needs to out recruit Smart just to get back to even right now. And UGA just pulled a number one class.
 
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Creamsicle82 said:
The better team usually beats the inferior team.

But UT is only 23-22-2 all time. That’s not “usually beating” another team. That’s about as close to even as it gets.

And 3-7 in the last decade.

And 41-0 at Neyland last year. Worse than they beat Vandy.

Pruitt needs to out recruit Smart just to get back to even right now. And UGA just pulled a number one class.
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You didn't pay attention to what I said. I said "when Tennessee is any good at all"... meaning regardless of how good Georgia might be. In a season where Tennessee wins at least 6 regular season games or more, their record vs Georgia since 1989 is 15-7.

Basically, Georgia only beats Tennessee when Tennessee is really bad. When we have our act together? We are the superior program regardless of how good they might also be (see 2004, 2007 and 2015).
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You didn't pay attention to what I said. I said "when Tennessee is any good at all"... meaning regardless of how good Georgia might be. In a season where Tennessee wins at least 6 regular season games or more, their record vs Georgia since 1989 is 15-7.

Basically, Georgia only beats Tennessee when Tennessee is really bad. When we have our act together? We are the superior program regardless of how good they might also be (see 2004, 2007 and 2015).
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To be fair when UT owned Georgia in the 90s we were pretty awful. Now Georgia has a winning record against UT this decade because UT was awful. I know people say this all the time, but college football is cyclical. I’d bet however much money I have that at some point these situations will completely flip. Also, it’s probably difficult for UGA and UT to both be “up” at the same time since historically when UT is good they recruit Georgia well. However, if there’s a coach that can have UT recruit nationally again it’s Pruitt, so hopefully we get to see a top 10 UGA and a top 10 UT play each other at some point.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You didn't pay attention to what I said. I said "when Tennessee is any good at all"... meaning regardless of how good Georgia might be. In a season where Tennessee wins at least 6 regular season games or more, their record vs Georgia since 1989 is 15-7.

Basically, Georgia only beats Tennessee when Tennessee is really bad. When we have our act together? We are the superior program regardless of how good they might also be (see 2004, 2007 and 2015).
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Like in 2001? Or 2003? Those were good Tennessee teams that lost to the Dawgs that represent half of UT’s double digit winning seasons since 2000.

And you’re leaving out pretty important context: in that 15-7 run, 10 of those wins came between 1989 and 1999 when UGA won 10 or more games only twice and won six or fewer games six times (ie, they were trash).

During that same time period, UT never won fewer than eight games and had double digit wins five times (ie, UGA was trash at the same time UT was really good).

So your assertion that a good UT team beats UGA regardless of how good they are is demonstrably false.
 
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Creamsicle82 said:
Like in 2001? Or 2003? Those were good Tennessee teams that lost to the Dawgs that represent half of UT’s double digit winning seasons since 2000.

And you’re leaving out pretty important context: in that 15-7 run, 10 of those wins came between 1989 and 1999 when UGA won 10 or more games only twice and won six or fewer games six times (ie, they were trash).

During that same time period, UT never won fewer than eight games and had double digit wins five times (ie, UGA was trash at the same time UT was really good).

So your assertion that a good UT team beats UGA regardless of how good they are is demonstrably false.
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Like hell it is! These are the last 7 seasons that Tennessee has won at least 7 games overall:

2016: Tennessee 34 Georgia 31
2015: Tennessee 38 Georgia 31
2014: Georgia 35 Tennessee 32
2009: Tennessee 45 Georgia 19
2007: Tennessee 35 Georgia 14
2006: Tennessee 51 Georgia 33
2004: Tennessee 19 Georgia 14

That is 6-1 in Tennessee's favor which was exactly my point... and Georgia was pretty good in '04, '07 and '15. When Tennessee has a good team, they beat Georgia. Go back to Dawgvent.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Like hell it is! These are the last 7 seasons that Tennessee has won at least 7 games overall:

2016: Tennessee 34 Georgia 31
2015: Tennessee 38 Georgia 31
2014: Georgia 35 Tennessee 32
2009: Tennessee 45 Georgia 19
2007: Tennessee 35 Georgia 14
2006: Tennessee 51 Georgia 33
2004: Tennessee 19 Georgia 14

That is 6-1 in Tennessee's favor which was exactly my point... and Georgia was pretty good in '04, '07 and '15. When Tennessee has a good team, they beat Georgia. Go back to Dawgvent.
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A) if you think a seven win season is good, you’re the problem with Tennessee football.

B) you’re still not taking into account whether or not UGA was any good in any of those years.

Spoiler alert: they weren’t with the exception of 2007.
 
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Creamsicle82 said:
A) if you think a seven win season is good, you’re the problem with Tennessee football.

B) you’re still not taking into account whether or not UGA was any good in any of those years.

Spoiler alert: they weren’t with the exception of 2007.
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A) I used 7 games to show my point that unless Tennessee is really bad, they do beat Georgia.

B) Georgia went 10-2 in 2004 and 10-3 in 2015. I specifically mentioned those two years along with 2007 in the post you quoted.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
When Tennessee is any good at all - they usually beat Georgia. Tennessee has won 2 of the last 3 and the series is just 8-6 in their favor since '04. That is much better than Tennessee has done against either Florida or Alabama, obviously.
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I actually saw someone on the SEC network say we couldn't compete with Georgia because of how they have dominated us in recent years.

Like, I understand they are a much better team right now, but people act like they have a Florida type Streak in us.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
I actually saw someone on the SEC network say we couldn't compete with Georgia because of how they have dominated us in recent years.

Like, I understand they are a much better team right now, but people act like they have a Florida type Streak in us.
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They sure did stomp a mud hole in us last year but from 2012-2016, this was the closest series in the SEC. Every game was decided by 7 points or less and there was an OT game and a game that ended on a hail mary:

2012: Georgia 51 Tennessee 44
2013: Georgia 34 Tennessee 31 OT
2014: Georgia 35 Tennessee 32
2015: Tennessee 38 Georgia 31
2016: Tennessee 34 Georgia 31

The combined score of those 5 games was 182-179 in Georgia's favor... That is about as close as you are going to get over a 5 game span.

Whoever said that was probably a Georgia fan and I can easily believe that. They get a lot of fan support from the SECN. Not as much as Bama but it's close.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
A) I used 7 games to show my point that unless Tennessee is really bad, they do beat Georgia.

B) Georgia went 10-2 in 2004 and 10-3 in 2015. I specifically mentioned those two years along with 2007 in the post you quoted.
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A) you cherry picked seven games while ignoring others that didn’t fit your narrative

B) Yes, and that 2015 team finished the year unranked. And neither of those teams played Bama, giving them a decidedly easier schedule
 
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MurphyVol said:
If they're scared they're dumb. They beat us by 41 last year and Pruitt has a lot of rebuilding to do.
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I agree he has some rebuilding to do but I don't think it's a lot. We have talent my hope is he can get the best out of them
 
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Creamsicle82 said:
A) you cherry picked seven games while ignoring others that didn’t fit your narrative

B) Yes, and that 2015 team finished the year unranked. And neither of those teams played Bama, giving them a decidedly easier schedule
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A) Yes. I cherry picked the seasons that Tennessee had at least an average team. That was my point. Tennessee beats Georgia unless they are really bad.

B) Alabama was awful in 2004. They finished 6-6. Georgia had an easier schedule by not playing them. You are simply wrong about 2015. Georgia did play Alabama in 2015 and lost 38-10 at home.
 
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Amazing what happens when you go out and actually hire a football coach.

Jeremy Pruitt may not win on the field at Tennessee (I think he will), but he’s already winning. A team that just had their best season in forever is talking about him. I like it.
 
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TennTradition said:
Amazing what happens when you go out and actually hire a football coach.

Jeremy Pruitt may not win on the field at Tennessee (I think he will), but he’s already winning. A team that just had their best season in forever is talking about him. I like it.
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One thing about this... I haven't seen anything negative about Pruitt from a former Alabama player or from an Alabama source or even from his one year at Florida State. It's only Georgia. It definitely suggests an agenda.
 
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Both Murray and Pollack are stinkin' dawgs..... and if Pruit disrespected that Helen Hunt looking Richt and Richt didn't handle it himself... then he's a punk a** b***h. I'll take the alpha over the beta every time.
Go Vols!
 
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Creamsicle82 said:
A) you cherry picked seven games while ignoring others that didn’t fit your narrative

B) Yes, and that 2015 team finished the year unranked. And neither of those teams played Bama, giving them a decidedly easier schedule
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If you're taking up for the dawgs then you might ought to shut it
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
One thing about this... I haven't seen anything negative about Pruitt from a former Alabama player or from an Alabama source or even from his one year at Florida State. It's only Georgia. It definitely suggests an agenda.
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Is it an agenda or just a couple of beeches talking crap?
 
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BisonVol said:
We aren't in the same hemisphere as Georgia right now, but I think that Pollack & Murray are fully aware that Tennessee is more than capable of getting to Georgia's level. They see that Pruitt has already reeled in some of the nation's best recruits over the SEC's elite despite coming off a 4-8 season. Because of that, they are using their platform to try to create doubt as to whether Pruitt is the guy to get Tennessee back.

This isnt to say that there weren't some hostile exchanges between Richt and Pruitt because there were. Pollack and Murray both played for Richt and are coming to his defense, but that's definitely not the only reason for them throwing shade at Pruitt. I think it was clear that Finebaum and even Greg McElroy came to Pruitt's defense today when Pollack started trashing him.
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I disagree. I think one good shot in the mouth, Fromm gets rattled and we are on them like stink on ****.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
One thing about this... I haven't seen anything negative about Pruitt from a former Alabama player or from an Alabama source or even from his one year at Florida State. It's only Georgia. It definitely suggests an agenda.
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Tennessee has beaten Georgia more often when an underdog than Georgia has beaten Tennessee as an underdog. It is a shame that two former Georgia players will stoop so low as to attack another coach, especially when they have taken the field when that coach was coaching for or against them. One of the most extreme case of journalistic malpractice I have ever seen. They both should be fired and banned from anything associated withbroadcasting sporting events.
 
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Guys ESPN ran the blitz play on this deal. They require their hosts to start sh%# in order to keep their jobs.

This has received more press than really any one thing from Media Days, and they got exactly what they wanted.
 
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