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I believe we should open up but not by comparing COVID to the flu as many here are inaccurately doing or simply stating it only kills the elderly. I think we should open up because of the negative long term effect on our nation and standard of living across the board. I do not want the U.S. to become a third world country.
I never compared it to the flu. I mentioned that it was more or less like the flu for when my Dad had it. Simply because that's what he told me it felt like when he was dealing with it. Thankfully he lives away from the rest of the family so I didn't really get a first hand observation of the symptoms. So the easiest and most accurate description I could give was that it was flu like
 
I never compared it to the flu. I mentioned that it was more or less like the flu for when my Dad had it. Simply because that's what he told me it felt like.
I did not say you compared it to the flu but I compared your statements about the pct of elderly deaths to the people who have compared it to the flu. Similar rationale.
 
I did not say you compared it to the flu but I compared your statements about the pct of elderly deaths to the people who have compared it to the flu. Similar rationale.
It might seem that way but it's not. The reason I made the statement about the elderly and pre-existing condition group is because there seems to be a fairly vocal part of the population that drastically overstates the lethality of the Virus. When in truth only a particular sub category of the population is at risk of dying. I don't think that it's not serious or something that doesn't need to be addressed in some way. I just don't think the way we are going about it is healthy or sustainable. P.S I love beating dead horses
 
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It might seem that way but it's not. The reason I made the statement about the elderly and pre-existing condition group is because there seems to be a fairly vocal part of the population that drastically overstates the lethality of the Virus. When in truth only a particular sub category of the population is at risk of dying. I don't think that it's not serious or something that doesn't need to be addressed in some way. I just don't think the way we are going about it is healthy or sustainable. P.S I love beating dead horses
I’ve been very vocal the last three weeks on VN about looking at the percentages is the wrong approach now. We have to look at the death numbers now to understand the predicament we now face. However I still believe we cannot completely shut down everywhere as we did earlier this year because of reasons I mentioned in my previous post.
 
And there is a faction in VN that ignores every positive treatment for covid. That ; is mind boggling. Do a TWITTER Search On this Black Female Doctor's Experience Treating Covid. I DARE YOU and every naysayer in here!! Dr. Stella Immanuel explains how HCQ not only works as a cure but can also be used to PREVENT COVID infection in the first place! #whitecoatsummit
After watching some video of “Dr. Stella” tonight, you might want to re-think your statement. She actually may be President of the “crazier than an outhouse rat” club. People peddling this sort of 💩 is one of the the reasons we are in the mess we are in today. Pay attention to real science and not some crackpot witch doctor that believes in demon sex.
 
How many healthy people below their 60's have died from it. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone below the senior citizen age without any previous health conditions that's died from it. That's why I made the car wreck comparison

Thousands under the age of 60 have died.

Just in case you were wondering 60 isn’t exactly the age to be put out to pasture. Not even eligible for medicare or SS at that age. Someone in their 60s is most likely still very much part of the work force and should have decades of life ahead of them.

Watching my region suddenly explode with cases and hospitalizations is a stark reminder how fast this thing spreads. My county had an average of 6 active cases from March through June. Over the last 4-5 weeks its grown to nearly 600 with our local hospital system saying they are now at 80% capacity.
When the hospitals fill up that is when the death rate will start spiking across all age groups.
 
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Do universities get sued when a player is killed in an accident traveling to or from sports related accidents? What about when one has a heat related death from practice? Both of which are more likely to happen than your scenario.

really? that's a poor equivocation. the university is not intentionally putting someone in harms way when they are driving to and from sports related events. heat related illness? there are many precautions the ncaa must now take because of a single fatality years ago.

i know you guys want football, but geez we are in the middle of a botched response to a pandemic. you should hear yourselves. CDD and Fauci = fake news?? really??
 
My father in law, 81, no underlying conditions, went in last wed with 104 temp. Died yesterday at 1pm. 6 days. Covid 19 was brutal on him. It was plenty real for him.

I'm sorry for your loss as well.
I know this is cliche, but to those to whom it is real, it is indeed very real.
 
Dr. Immanual appears to me to be - ahem - a nut.

I think the public's reaction to Covid is overblown, and would like to see us get back to normal and take our chances with the therapies that are available or coming on line. But no person in authority is going to go against the great weight of medical opinion. It just isn't going to happen. There is no way a season can proceed if the players cannot get routinely tested, and if test results cannot be obtained relatively quickly. You might as well adjust yourself to this reality. I would love to see a football season. I just don't see it happening.

TYPICAL. Attack the Personality; not the ABILITY. What the hell is wrong with people; resisting a cure for the problem that has us all in lockdown? ASININE.
 
TYPICAL. Attack the Personality; not the ABILITY. What the hell is wrong with people; resisting a cure for the problem that has us all in lockdown? ASININE.
On, it's not "typical" it's difficult to take we finding seriously when
1- nobody in the medical community agrees with her
2-she thinks people have sex with demons....in their sleep
 
Yes... hospitals that stopped elective surgeries for months and furloughed staff to save money are just waiting on that COVID hospitalization windfall 🙄

NO! Patients with elective surgeries and/or procedures are to frightened to go the the hospitals ; and the Doctors' offices have such a tight security protocol on a Visit that patients are simply NOT GOING. The fear factor is working very well; for a "Pandemic" that has a 99% recovery rate; has a cure and has a preventative. Try the whitecoatsummit on BITCHUTE, since the Socialists at Youtube, Twitter, and Google have removed all evidence of the actual Front line doctors' Press Conferences. We are living to see George Orwell's 1984. The truth is a lie.
 
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On, it's not "typical" it's difficult to take we finding seriously when
1- nobody in the medical community agrees with her
2-she thinks people have sex with demons....in their sleep

BS. Every Doctor attending that summit; Agrees with her, and countless others. Dr. Harvey Risch ( YALE Med school) Dr James Todaro (Columbia Med School) two very high profile MD's. Me thinketh thou doth protest too much. Politics over people.
 
really? that's a poor equivocation. the university is not intentionally putting someone in harms way when they are driving to and from sports related events. heat related illness? there are many precautions the ncaa must now take because of a single fatality years ago.

i know you guys want football, but geez we are in the middle of a botched response to a pandemic. you should hear yourselves. CDD and Fauci = fake news?? really??
How, if players have the option to sit a year with no loss of eligibility, decide to play and then they and parents sign a waiver are the universities putting players in harm's way?

If the heat exhaustion is a bad example let's discuss potential CTE??? Once again far more likely to have longterm effects from repeated blows to the head than from COVID-19.

Also, you claim (and rightfully so) the NCAA puts strict rules on protection from heat yet it still happens every year. Do you not think there would be strict regulations on COVID-19? Cmon you can't be this oblivious?

And I'm not even going to debate your Lord and Savior Dr. Jesus Fauci.
 
Thousands under the age of 60 have died.

Just in case you were wondering 60 isn’t exactly the age to be put out to pasture. Not even eligible for medicare or SS at that age. Someone in their 60s is most likely still very much part of the work force and should have decades of life ahead of them.

Watching my region suddenly explode with cases and hospitalizations is a stark reminder how fast this thing spreads. My county had an average of 6 active cases from March through June. Over the last 4-5 weeks its grown to nearly 600 with our local hospital system saying they are now at 80% capacity.
When the hospitals fill up that is when the death rate will start spiking across all age groups.
Notice the qualifier of "healthy". I don't think think that there's been a single case in the United States of anyone below 60 without previous health problems that's died
 
TYPICAL. Attack the Personality; not the ABILITY. What the hell is wrong with people; resisting a cure for the problem that has us all in lockdown? ASININE.
This lady has publicly stated that people can contract VD by having "dream sex" with demons. Sorry. She could be absolutely correct about this therapy being a cure, but her crazy crap talk disqualifies her from serious consideration. There are far more credible doctors who also believe there are good therapies for covid. Query: does the Trump administration even try to vet these people before putting them in front of a camera? They maybe should start.
 
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Notice the qualifier of "healthy". I don't think think that there's been a single case in the United States of anyone below 60 without previous health problems that's died

Then you would think wrong. As a single example that was covered by the news was a broadway actor, 41, who lingered in the hospital for months before finally passing... Was he an outlier of the broader statistics? Yes. Was he the only healthy under 60 patient to succumb to COVID? Not at all.

People in this thread and others across this very site have mentioned people they know under 60 who have passed that were in good health prior to getting COVID.

Even then, much of the preexisting conditions causing complications is simply obesity. Not morbid obesity... just obesity, which accounts for almost 40% of Americans.
 
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BS. Every Doctor attending that summit; Agrees with her, and countless others. Dr. Harvey Risch ( YALE Med school) Dr James Todaro (Columbia Med School) two very high profile MD's. Me thinketh thou doth protest too much. Politics over people.
I think people donty protest enough knowing this misinformation is being pushed by big money superpac. I'm sure the Tea Party Patriots are all about cutting edge medicine
Dark money and PAC's coordinated 'reopen' push are behind doctors' viral hydroxychloroquine video

Maybe Trump's former FDA head doesn't know what he's taking about when he says it's is absolutely not effective.
 
NO! Patients with elective surgeries and/or procedures are to frightened to go the the hospitals ; and the Doctors' offices have such a tight security protocol on a Visit that patients are simply NOT GOING. The fear factor is working very well; for a "Pandemic" that has a 99% recovery rate; has a cure and has a preventative. Try the whitecoatsummit on BITCHUTE, since the Socialists at Youtube, Twitter, and Google have removed all evidence of the actual Front line doctors' Press Conferences. We are living to see George Orwell's 1984. The truth is a lie.
ahahahaha! Watch out, Bill Gates is going to track you down and inject you with a vaccine that will prevent you from being religious, have dream sex with demons and force you to vote Democrat against your will. Maybe "Dr." Immanuel can wizard you up a spell to keep Bill Gates and the demons out of your house.
 
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