Most of the Volnation is very unrealistic!

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PimpVol said:
Well, by all means, let us not forgive him.
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Forgive him? He is paid to win football games. He doesn't win football games so we need someone who will. We lost by double digits to MSU after a bye week. We lost by 31 to Bama and 17 to Florida. It isn't about forgiveness it is about accountability.
 
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thebjd said:
Forgive him? He is paid to win football games. He doesn't win football games so we need someone who will. We lost by double digits to MSU after a bye week. We lost by 31 to Bama and 17 to Florida. It isn't about forgiveness it is about accountability.
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You dont have to recount the scores of the games. I saw them. You are free to be as angry as you want. Not my problem. Wish for Gruden if it makes you feel better. Hope we "loose". Whatever.
 
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While some will look at our schedule the past 3 years to start the SEC and complain about it being difficult, others might look at it as missed opportunities. We have had a schedule that would have us set up for relevance if we could have split the first 5 games instead of going o'fer.
 
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EZE said:
This is Tennessee, not Vandy. We expect to win more than we lose.
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You need to go somewhere else with that expectation stuff. We have started new ways of thinking at Tennessee. As long as your southern, have nice hair, wear orange pants, and drive around a golfcart with an orange dog riding shotgun, your good to go. Winning is a thing of the past. This is the SEC and times have changed. Other teams have gotten better and paid alot of money to do so. Here at UT we have decided to look good Sun-Fri. Saturdays are kick back type days and winning is just not priority any longer. Stop worrying about it so much. :crazy:
 
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I love how this place is incapable of having an actual intelligent debate.. it always has to resort to name calling, and sarcastic comments.

I try my best not to get sucked into the vortex of childish behavior, but the pull is just too much sometimes.

Some of you see a post that does not completely blast Dooley, and interpret it as a bromance/man crush.

The main point here is it would be a huge mistake to fire Dooley blindly like many around here are trying to lobby for. We need a home run coach waiting behind the curtain when the announcement Dooley is gone happens.

If they can't get a PROVEN HOME RUN.. Then give Dooley another year and keep looking. Let Dooley slowly improve the team like he has been doing. Make the job even more lucrative to the Home run coaches.

There is absolutely no way they should fire him if they are just going to take a chance on another under-qualified coach.. The ONLY thing that will accomplish would be to spend a bunch of money in order to hurt the program and roster.

Its a step backwards, And I for one do not want to take a step backwards.

Lets stop with the melodramatic, woe-is-me, butthurt and overly emotionally responses and wise cracks about Dooley.

We all know his record, we all know he should not have been hired here etc.. but if we fire him blindly, and we are forced to take a coach who is 8-10th on our list. Then we will be back here in 2-3 years talking about who we might get to replace him. With the only difference being we spent a huge amount of money to get the same thing we have now.
 
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If you don't get a home run hire, just keep Dools for 2013and keep looking. While I get the thought, I think it sets us up in an even worse position. This team is set up to quit on Dooley. If they happen to lose another game this year, there will be a massive collapse just as there was last year. Are we sure that there would be a better coach available next year that is not available this year? That is a pretty big roll of the dice to take the chance on ANOTHER losing season and millions in lost revenue. There could be 4-5 SEC schools looking for coaches. Most of them will be considering the same names we are. All of them will be signed to multi year deals. There is 8-10 coaches off the market. What if Texas dumps Brown? I would guess there will be no less than 20 coaching changes this year. IMO, Waiting sets us up for more problems. A winning coach, could easily be 6-2 here right now. A possible 10-2 season and a New Years day bowl in Florida. If it fell right, we could have been in the SEC title game. IF we had a proven coach going into 2013, I would think the same type of season would be possible. If all the JRs return and the new coach can land Green, North, and add a few guys on defense who could make an impact 2013 would be a great year. Just waiting, sets us up for disaster IMO.
 
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KoachKletus said:
Sigh. Read your post, well some of it, and figured it as a feeble attempt to post "facts" without context. Same thing faux news does. They believe the **** the say, but when put to the test, they go to commercial. Lets look at your "fact" number one - Since when did we start out 0-5 the past 3 seasons? Your fact number two - When did we "last" to Kentucky?

Your turn genius.
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I have noticed that your post are largely composed of criticizing others for grammarical, spelling errors and even typos. Thus, you must be of superior intellect. However, by reading your posts, your ignorance is on display for all of vol nation. Since Dooley became coach, we have started every season 0-5 in SEC play, 0-15 against ranked opponents, while enduring our only loss to Ky in 30 yrs. the closest we have came under Dooley to beating a ranked opponent came during his first year and was against LSU. We have not shown improvement with Dooley since then. There are the stats. Now, talk about race horses and try to relate with some obscure metaphor if you must. We are talking about football and it is the coaches duty to recruit. So, if after three years of recruiting, we lack the atheletes to compete, it falls square on the head coach. In defending him, you have condemned him, my friend!
 
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Titan&Volfan4life said:
My friend...Don't you know that using facts and solid logic is NOT allowed here on VN.

You're only allowed to post based on immaturity, emotions and trying to get many others to like you so you never object, post facts or logic and only go along with everyone else, LOL!

Never point our proven improvements like we now have 18 to 20 future NFL players at UT thanks to CDD but that the other top SEC teams have 40 to 60 future NFL players so we're not quite equal on the player roster just yet.

Never point out that we can run the ball and that CDD fixed that like he said he would when most everyone here was WRONG when they said our O linemen and RB's totally sucked.

Never point out the obvious improvements on special teams like we're covering Kickoffs and punts much better and the other teams can't flip the field so easily like they were doing.

Very few, if any, college teams have kicking/coaching experts on the team so all a ST coach or a HC can do is try to teach it because they can't show it themselves which IS WHY many kickers pay to go to Professional kicking schools during the summer but NO coach can make a kid pay to do that.

Never point out real improvements like we WERE getting totally BLOWN OUT last year but this year we ARE competitive even against the best SEC teams excluding Bama so we ARE close.

Never state a fact like if only 3 to 5 PLAYS per game had gone differently we could be a 1 loss team, ranked in the top 10 and have already Won the SEC East and now be trying to figure out how to beat Bama in the SEC Championship game.

Never try to teach all these expert coaches and AD's on here that in the NFL it still takes 2 YEARS to learn everything on the 3-4 defense and that if our D was just 3 to 5 plays per game better we could easily be a 1 loss team, ect, ect.

People will only learn things when they WANT to learn things.

People will only admit facts, logic and truth when they WANT to admit them.

Most on here will NEVER admit they were totally OVERexpecting this season when they said we could Win 9, 10 or more games or that they were totally WRONG when they said our O linemen and RB's totally sucked and we'd never run the ball well until we recruited much better O linemen and RB's.

Take all the facts, proof and logic and toss it all in the trash because everything is NEVER the players fault..it's always all the coaches fault, LOL!

CJC calls the plays but Bray never changes plays at the line since he knows he has the coaches by the short hairs and they have zero options to go to except Worley that's only a Soph and isn't ready to take it all over but we all know Bray is so mature that he throws beer bottles at cars so he would never take advantage over coaches that have no other serious options, LOL!

We ARE much closer to being a SEC East Powerhouse again than we've been since Fulmer was fired but the experts here on VN will never admit that because they would have to admit they were wrong and that doesn't fit their agenda so it's easier to hate on CDD and our coaching staff and pray that Saint Gruden that was FIRED as a FAILURE of a coach will come to Tennessee and we'll never again lose more than 1 game per season, LOL.

CDD has 2 of HIS recruiting classes on the team so I have no idea if he can win us a National Championship or not when we get our roster build up even with the top SEC teams and NOBODY else on here knows if he can get it done or not either.

W's and L's never tell the entire story when you're totally rebuilding an entire program that everyone knew would take 4 to 5 years.

Whatever AD Hart decides to do will be fine with me because I love my Vols and I'll support every player and coach no matter what.

Firing CDD just might turn out to be a huge mistake though since he could fix the defense just like he fixed our running game.

VFL...GBO!!!
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When you start with if 3 to 5 plays go our way...thats every game in football hisotry except blowouts. I never thought they would be very good i was thinking 7 to 8 wins at best including the bowl game. Not because i dont want them todo well, but the fact I do not have faith in the coaching staff. His history is to be a sub 500 coach and hes fullfilling that here at Tennessee.

I think a majority of posters like Dooley and want him to win but he was out into a bad position and isnt that great of a head coach.

I mean if you want togo to statistics there are plenty out there. Last 3 season 0-5 start in sec, 2 and 30 for his career vs teams with winning records. He was a 17-20 overall record at La Tech before he took the Tennessee Job. And his one winning season included wins over...

Miss State
Southeastern Lousiana
Idaho
Fresno State
San Jose State
Utah State
New Mexco State
Northern Illinois

So get real if its not now it will be sometime in the near future.
 
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volsgrad89 said:
Do you guys realize all 5 losses are to SEC (hands down the toughest conference in college football, unprecedented) teams in the top 15 of the BCS with a combined record of 36-5?
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OMG are you kidding? I had no idea but thanks for breaking the news.

Do you realize we have been in the SEC since it was established in 1932? Do you realize that the SEC has ALWAYS had tough competition?

I'm not sure why all of the sudden the fact that we play ranked teams is like some sort of big news to people.
 
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Titan&Volfan4life said:
My friend, please try to read all my posts before asking such silly questions.

I am NOT a huge supporter of CDD and I'll NEVER be a supporter of any specific coach.

I support my Tennessee Vols and that includes all players and coaches no matter who they are at the time.

IF AD Hart decides we need a new coaching staff and fires this staff then I'll support the nect coaches.

Facts prove that we're much closer to getting Wins against all the best SEC teams right now except for bama and we're closer in only year 3 and with CDD only getting 2 of his recruiting classes on the team than we really should be.

THINK...If our D was in the 2nd year of our 3-4 we would be a much better D already.

THINK...If we had stopped 3 to 5 big plays on D or made a couple more big plays on the O then we would now be a 1 loss tream, ranked top 10 and would be the SEC East Champions.

Majors won a National Championship at Pitt but how many years before he could Win 10 games or a SEC Championship?

How many years did Fulmer win 10 games?

Nick Saban is the best coach/recruiter in college football but what was his record at Michigan State his first 5 years?

I can only guess at the answer to your question my friend but based on the progress I see already and if we get our Defense fixed and we don't lose Bary, Patterson, Hunter and others I honestly believe we'll Win the SEC East next season.

When CDD walked in the door at Tennessee if someone told me we would have a legit shot at a SEC East Championship in just 4 years I would have had serious doubts since most all smart people believed it would take 5 years of good recruiting to stack up against the top SEC East teams since they're loaded with great talent already.

I look at many things from all aspects and not just the Win/loss record and I consider many things rather than to post things based only on emotions and things that just aren't logical at all like everything is all the coaches fault.

Things would be alot nicer around here and we could have more intelligent discussions if most people did these things but on VN emotions run wild, logic is out the window and people can never admit when they make a mistake.

I said all Summer NOT to overexpect too much from this team when most were saying we would Win 9, 10 or more games this season but most were wrong and now they're all upset and overemotional and looking for everything bad rather than to look for anything good or progress that's right in front of their eyes.

It is what is is my friend and that's life here on VN.

VFL...GBO!!!
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Here you go again, talking about facts in one sentence then saying what if and could have in the very next. Very scientific. As for your Fulmer comparison, he was 152-52 as head coach for UT with A national title 2 SEC championships and 6 SEC east titles. The second winningest coach in Bolunteer history behind Robert Neykand by only 21 wins. However 21 wins is astronomical when you bring Dooley's record and pathetically try to compare them. In short, you my friend are full of lots of crap but very little facts come from your long pointless essays
 
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Titan&VolFan4Life is right....Dooley whipped La Tech into shape so why can't he whip us into shape if he is given enough time here? Oh, wait...oh, they were terrible under him? My bad... carry on...
 
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ImportedVoL said:
I love how this place is incapable of having an actual intelligent debate.. it always has to resort to name calling, and sarcastic comments.

I try my best not to get sucked into the vortex of childish behavior, but the pull is just too much sometimes.

Some of you see a post that does not completely blast Dooley, and interpret it as a bromance/man crush.

The main point here is it would be a huge mistake to fire Dooley blindly like many around here are trying to lobby for. We need a home run coach waiting behind the curtain when the announcement Dooley is gone happens.

If they can't get a PROVEN HOME RUN.. Then give Dooley another year and keep looking. Let Dooley slowly improve the team like he has been doing. Make the job even more lucrative to the Home run coaches.

There is absolutely no way they should fire him if they are just going to take a chance on another under-qualified coach.. The ONLY thing that will accomplish would be to spend a bunch of money in order to hurt the program and roster.

Its a step backwards, And I for one do not want to take a step backwards.

Lets stop with the melodramatic, woe-is-me, butthurt and overly emotionally responses and wise cracks about Dooley.

We all know his record, we all know he should not have been hired here etc.. but if we fire him blindly, and we are forced to take a coach who is 8-10th on our list. Then we will be back here in 2-3 years talking about who we might get to replace him. With the only difference being we spent a huge amount of money to get the same thing we have now.
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Absolutely no one suggests that we should blindly fire Dooley. What we do strongly suggest is that the powers over the program should aggressively be looking for his replacement. He has been given time and money and has failed. Now is the time to be proactive in finding the right coach for this job. Instead of reactive after another loss to Ky or Vandy. I understand that isn't going to change the outcome if we are to lose again to a fellow cellar dweller. However we now know to expect it and should be prepared to make the necessary changes
 
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