Mike Leach (Texas Tech)

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hvwarrior58 said:
He is a horrible recruiter for a reason. His schemes are gimmicky. Effective at times, but gimmicky. Very few highly touted prospects want to come into a system that will give them 0 help at being successful at the next level.
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and florida's offense is different how?
 
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VolTx said:
to further summarize:

Coaching up an inferior player to the level of an NCAA record breaker is the sign of a poor coaching

Loosing games with players who go on to stellar NFL careers is the ultimate goal

Would said this? Show me.

odd reasoning, but I think I'm getting the hang of it here
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Waiting.
 
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I enjoyed watching Tech score 7 gimmicky touchdowns on 7 gimmicky drives Saturday night

all in all, it was a nice gimmicky win for the gimmicky #2 team in the country

if memory serves, the final score was gimmicky56-20
 
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VolTx said:
I enjoyed watching Tech score 7 gimmicky touchdowns on 7 gimmicky drives Saturday night

all in all, it was a nice gimmicky win for the gimmicky #2 team in the country

if memory serves, the final score was gimmicky56-20
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Are you going to argue that the Big 12 plays stout defense next?
 
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I like the idea but I cant see it happening...just you tube the guy and watch him...he won't get hired here to many reasons to list why...
 
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volmanbill said:
I guess a top prospect out of HS would never give consideration to which school might prepare him for a pro career. That would be insane.:crazy:
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That is not what I said. What I was saying is that TN already sends a much higher than average number of kids on to the pros. A kid coming to school at TN will have the best shot of any place in the country to make it further. As far as recruiting talent from a coaches perspective, coaches do not go out looking in high schools for pro prospects. Coaches look for players that can be exceptional to their program. If a QB wins games at TN, his odd of a pro career are great and the odds for us to win championships are great. But discounting a coach because his QBs were exceptionally great college QBs and without great pro careers is silly. Winning at TN is the top priority not winning for the Patriots or Steelers. It is obvious that Leach does a great job with his QBs and they produce. What kid doesn't want to play for a coach that wins games, put up lots of QB production and gives a kid lots of exposure? Leach at TN could provide that and that is great for recruiting. In addition, with the year Leach is having at Texas Tech and with Heisman Trophy winning QB there, it would be of incredible benefit to TN's recruiting effort.
 
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TennThumper said:
That is not what I said. What I was saying is that TN already sends a much higher than average number of kids on to the pros. A kid coming to school at TN will have the best shot of any place in the country to make it further. As far as recruiting talent from a coaches perspective, coaches do not go out looking in high schools for pro prospects. Coaches look for players that can be exceptional to their program. If a QB wins games at TN, his odd of a pro career are great and the odds for us to win championships are great. But discounting a coach because his QBs were exceptionally great college QBs and without great pro careers is silly. Winning at TN is the top priority on winning for the Patriots or Steelers. It is obvious that Leach does a great job with his QBs and they produce. What kid doesn't want to play for a coach that wins games, put up lots of QB production and gives a kid lots of exposure? Leach at TN could provide that and that is great for recruiting. In addition, with the year Leach is having at Texas Tech and with Heisman Trophy winning QB there, it would be of incredible benefit to TN's recruiting effort.
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If he is hired, I hope you're right.
 
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texas_vol said:
seriously? baker is 5th string cut from team on 53 man practice squad. caldwell injured and is a rookie.

pretty sure wes welker has them both beat in career highlights.
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Yes an undrafted free agent.

I'm sure Leach sells that success to incoming recruits.

"That guy Wes, well, he walked on and went on the NFL. The scholarship guys aren't doing too great after they left here though."
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
Are you going to argue that the Big 12 plays stout defense next?
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Just one thing I would add on that general area is this. Your QB can't rack up the production that Leach's QB's have without an offensive line that does the job and gives the QB time to work. I'm not saying nor do I know how many All-Pro lineman come from Leach's teams but I do know the offensive production says they do the job well and that is something we are not doing well. I understand that the Big 12 isn't the SEC but it ain't shabby either.
 
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i dont care if the entire senior squad are professional janitors with University of Tennessee degrees, as long as we are winning, who cares about the nfl or recruiting stars? really.
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
Name one that has been successful after college? Not exactly a good recruitng tool if you are a highly rated QB.
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FAIL.

We had Peyton for 4 years and look what a great recruiting tool it's been for QB's for us.......oh, wait. We've had Clausens, Cromptons, Ainge & Stephens.
 
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justingroves said:
2 of the 4 QBs that have followed Peyton have been drafted.[/QUOTE

"Name one that has been successful after college? Not exactly a good recruitng tool if you are a highly rated QB."

I guess being drafted makes you a football success after college?
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It gets you a paycheck from the NFL.
 
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justingroves said:
It gets you a paycheck from the NFL.
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why yes, yes it does......

his original statement was that Leach coaches quarterbacks who are not successful after they leave TT and that must be bad for recruiting. I pointed out we've had quarterbacks have great success after college be successful but it hasn't helped our QB recruiting like his example would have him think.

So what's your point about Martin & Ainge being drafted....or maybe you weren't talking to me...if so sorry.
 
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I would think that Leach taking 4 rejects and turning them into NCAA leaders, then getting one highly recruited QB and turning him into a Heisman frontrunner who will be on an NFL roster would lead a bluechip QB to believe he'd be in good hands with Leach
 
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