McElWain canned for cause, can we use the same "cause?"

[DaddyChad]

Not from what I’m seeing and hearing. Mac’s buyout was 12.9 million. No way in hell UF pays that. I’ve heard they’ll pay from 4-6 million, which would be a huge financial win for UF. Mac’s “death threat” comments gave UF huge leverage.

If Mac says “I want the whole buyout.” UF says “prove you got death threats.” Mac says “oh, they were anonymous phone calls.” UF says “no problem, our lawyers will subpoena phone records.” Or, Mac may say “it was a random nut who said he wanted to kill me coming out of Burger King on University Ave.” UF says, “no worries, we’ll pull surveillance cameras from the restaurant and adjoining restaurants to validate.”

In other words, Jimmy Sexton steps in and whispers in Mac’s ear; “hey man, too much trouble, we’ll just take the 4 million.”

Oh I'm not saying Florida is losing money. I think Stricklin looks like a shady, douche after this though. I'm not saying Mac wasn't an idiot or anything else but you're firing him and swindling out of money because he's a loser not because of the death threats fiasco. Agents and coaches know that and I think it will hurt Florida in the short term as far as getting who they want. It's not arguable that Florida is a top tier job, I'm just not sure stricklin is going to be seen as a person many people want to work for. JMO though.

 

[barknoxbrawler]

I’ve heard that UF fans should not get too excited about a Mullen hire.

I’m hearing Scott Frost and Willie Taggart.

You mean reading it...... or did you actually have the AD department and or Frost or Taggart call you at home to discuss?

 

[vik]

So was it proven that he made the threats up?

The reduced buyout is the proof.

 

[oldgator]

Oh I'm not saying Florida is losing money. I think Stricklin looks like a shady, douche after this though. I'm not saying Mac wasn't an idiot or anything else but you're firing him and swindling out of money because he's a loser not because of the death threats fiasco. Agents and coaches know that and I think it will hurt Florida in the short term as far as getting who they want. It's not arguable that Florida is a top tier job, I'm just not sure stricklin is going to be seen as a person many people want to work for. JMO though.

No worries about Strickland and next new hire because Mac lost his mind. And what Mac said was not "no big deal" either. Claiming false threats on yourself & family and falsely insinuating your fanbase is comprised of homicidal maniacs and child killers isn't something any AD would "let go", Strickland or Currie. Mac simply saved us $5m on a foregone, end of season conclusion. Now that's stupid!

 

[DaddyChad]

The reduced buyout is the proof.

Proof that he couldn't afford a lengthy legal battle with Florida. Only thing proved by this is Mac couldn't or wouldn't produce proof that these death threats occurred.

 

[1967vol]

Florida fired their coach without having one waiting in the wings.

 

[oldgator]

Florida fired their coach without having one waiting in the wings.

Thank God

 

[DaUndergroundMan]

Butch is too resilient and tough. McElwaine faked a hitman being after him and melted down. Butch would unleash unshirted hell on a stalker as would Ed Orgeron. Same was true of Majors and Fulmer - fine to hurl insults behind their backs - you would not want them one on one.

lol

Buttch is a wus.

 

[DaUndergroundMan]

You mean reading it...... or did you actually have the AD department and or Frost or Taggart call you at home to discuss?

I was watching finebaum and hearing the same thing as jaws.

 

[UCVOL]

A trumpet player posing as a coach should be enough.

 

[UTFootballFan]

Seems like a losing record would be sufficient cause.

 

[fade route]

Florida could have that job filled in 24 hours if they wanted to.

McElwain has been acting like a tool and at odds with his administration since he got the job.

I honestly don’t think he really wanted to be there after year 1

 

[UTRavens]

If you want "cause", Jimmy sending a couple of his "friends" to "have a little talk" with "Butch" should do the trick.

 

[igotworms]

Butch is too resilient and tough. McElwaine faked a hitman being after him and melted down. Butch would unleash unshirted hell on a stalker as would Ed Orgeron. Same was true of Majors and Fulmer - fine to hurl insults behind their backs - you would not want them one on one.

What would he do - play me a solo in E minor??

 

[Ashevolle]

If he doesn't litigate the issues, he's a fool. He would win that case if it went to court. They'd settle in the 9-10 million range if he put up a fight. If he said "aw shucks" after a simple threat to fire him for cause and agreed to take 4-6 million, he doesn't deserve his buyout. I'm sure minimal research could find death threats on social media against him and multiple players.

 

[edyeary]

Im thinking a whollllllle lot more to his firing than meets the eye/ears

 

[UTFootballFan]

Florida fired their coach without having one waiting in the wings.

My sources tell me UF and Gruden have agreed to terms and it's pending final sign off.

 

[Zues1]

Pour guy, only walking away with 4 million dollars

 

[NorthDallas40]

He was canned “ ‘cause you can’t fix stupid!” which is exactly what his made up death threats and then lying about it to employer was. Stupid!

He got himself fired. And I’m sure the gators appreciate the discounted rate.

 

[Rgntddybrvol91]

A tennis coach pretending to be a football coach? Is that enough cause?

Jones is a drill instructor from a 50's television show pretending to be a football HC...is that enough?

 

[Rgntddybrvol91]

My sources tell me UF and Gruden have agreed to terms and it's pending final sign off.

don't be that guy

 

[HuntlandVolinColo]

Just for snicks and giggles UF indicated they terminated McElwain "for cause." Sounds like he accepted it or took it for what it was. What was THE cause? I heard a nebulous explanation about not winning enough?!?!? Why can't we can CBJ for the same "cause?" Goodness knows he didn't win as much as McElwain did. Thoughts?

Terminate for Cause: Cause he sucks!

 

[butchna]

Butch has lied to us all : about the best staff in America and his infallible offense, etc

Too bad we can’t use those as cause to force him out. I wanted Butch to succeed - I want my Vols to succeed. But after last 2 debacles the next coach will have earn my support by delivering on the field and scoreboard. I will continue to support the team though — I will give up the sport before looking for another team to cheer for

It’s not a LIE if you believe it. I think he did. But since the crux of this thread is Florida’s tactics, reinventing what constitutes lying to save some bucks is fair game...sleazy and shady fair game version.

 

[butchna]

He was canned “ ‘cause you can’t fix stupid!” which is exactly what his made up death threats and then lying about it to employer was. Stupid!

He got himself fired. And I’m sure the gators appreciate the discounted rate.

Love to see them prove that. But he was always soft so they took advantage.

 

[HuntlandVolinColo]

It’s not a LIE if you believe it. I think he did. But since the crux of this thread is Florida’s tactics, reinventing what constitutes lying to save some bucks is fair game...sleazy and shady fair game version.

I would be leery of taking a coaching position at Florida after the way they fired MacE. With that interpretation, you would never be allowed to BS or embellish anything!