Maurer Transferring - Official

[ksgovols]

I hope that Brian Maurer is successful in all his future endeavors and appreciate the effort that he put forth during his time in Knoxville . Having said that I can’t believe we are 5 pages into this thread and Curly has yet to make an appearance so here goes ……








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There's my b!+ch! I scrolled until I found Curly Bill. I knew he would show up!

 

[VolRage]

I’m convinced Harrison Bailey will likely transfer after this season if he’s not the starter. No inside info. Just a feeling.

 

[sjt18]

I’m convinced Harrison Bailey will likely transfer after this season if he’s not the starter. No inside info. Just a feeling.

Me too. IMHO, it will take two injuries or two guys to flop completely for him to get a chance to nail the job down. I think this was a short-sighted move by Maurer. He could have let this year play out. Heupel's starter at UCF was discovered due to injuries to guys who had beaten him out.

 

[timbonow]

Now Bailey is next.....another dumb Hump one decision.

 

[volinthenorth]

That’s not entirely true and we all know it. If he ends up at UGA or UF? Hell Naw. Any team in the SEC East for that matter and you’ll see the flip. There’s probably only a few SEC teams that might be accepted by this fan base. Vandy, USCe(maybe), Mizzou (maybe).

To be honest, I don't think any other SEC teams are going to be interested in picking up UT's 4th string quarterback. Maybe Vanderbilt if he has the grades. But if that did happen, I truly would not turn against Brian Maurer. He has spilled too much blood & guts on behalf of the Vols for me to put any hate on him. I wish him success in life, and if another SEC team provides that path for him, so be it. As a fan, I care more about the guy himself than the color of his uniform. I think a lot of VN would feel that way, too; and as you said, many others wouldn't (To'o to'o being evidence of that).

 

[Volfan1000]

Best of luck to Maurer at his next destination.

 

[volinthenorth]

Let me be the first to congratulate Hugh Freeze on inevitably turning Maurer into a first round draft pick in the future.

I just got home about an hour ago after four days of driving. I was dropping off my kid at Liberty. Friend of mine there told me that everyone is excited about Kaidon Salter. Also, Hugh Freeze is super happy there. They built him a nice house on a hill above their campus ... and that campus is absolutely beautiful. Most buildings at Liberty are new and high end. The sports facilities are fantastic. Very attractive location nestled right up against the Blue Ridge Mountains. Virginia Beach is only four hours away. 15,000 students on the Lynchburg campus (a record incoming class) and 94,000 online...that means lots of revenue. Freeze isn't making SEC money but he's also not having to live that high pressure lifestyle. I think he's got a good setup. I could see Maurer going there, too. LU is a pretty nice place.

 

[1vol8]

To be honest, I don't think any other SEC teams are going to be interested in picking up UT's 4th string quarterback. Maybe Vanderbilt if he has the grades. But if that did happen, I truly would not turn against Brian Maurer. He has spilled too much blood & guts on behalf of the Vols for me to put any hate on him. I wish him success in life, and if another SEC team provides that path for him, so be it. As a fan, I care more about the guy himself than the color of his uniform. I think a lot of VN would feel that way, too; and as you said, many others wouldn't (To'o to'o being evidence of that).

I respect you north, so please don’t take this the wrong way. I think you underestimate the talent in that room. You’re also mistaken, like nearly everyone, on “why” this is happening. This was not a “talent” separation.

 

[Delmar]

To be honest, I don't think any other SEC teams are going to be interested in picking up UT's 4th string quarterback. Maybe Vanderbilt if he has the grades. But if that did happen, I truly would not turn against Brian Maurer. He has spilled too much blood & guts on behalf of the Vols for me to put any hate on him. I wish him success in life, and if another SEC team provides that path for him, so be it. As a fan, I care more about the guy himself than the color of his uniform. I think a lot of VN would feel that way, too; and as you said, many others wouldn't (To'o to'o being evidence of that).

But, but, but he’s just like Bret Favre.......

 

[Jravol78]

There's my b!+ch! I scrolled until I found Curly Bill. I knew he would show up!

Me too and was frankly shocked that he still hadn’t sounded off on BM’s transfer

 

[Volnatic]

I respect you north, so please don’t take this the wrong way. I think you underestimate the talent in that room. You’re also mistaken, like nearly everyone, on “why” this is happening. This was not a “talent” separation.

So…it’s a separation because he was tied to the cheating?

 

[1vol8]

So…it’s a separation because he was tied to the cheating?

No.

 

[C-south]

If Bailey doesn’t start he’ll be right behind him.

 

[butchna]

If Bailey doesn’t start he’ll be right behind him.

Next year.

 

[volinthenorth]

I respect you north, so please don’t take this the wrong way. I think you underestimate the talent in that room. You’re also mistaken, like nearly everyone, on “why” this is happening. This was not a “talent” separation.

Back at ya, 1vol8. Respect you too. What you say here might very well be true. I was interpreting this as an old-fashioned quarterback battle in which the player of lesser ability came in fourth place. Nothing wrong with that, someone has to come in last. What I don't have access to, but you do, is an inside story about BM that would cause him to be fourth for a reason entirely apart from his ability. Maybe it's the credit card thing with the recruiting violations. Maybe it's something related to Pruitt being a total tool. I don't claim to know. Whatever it is, it carried over to the new staff. It must be something big for it to factor into Heupel's decision as well. That said, I'm not convinced that this mysterious thing you seem to know about is the actual reason for Brian's place in the pecking order. I'm no QB talent expert but I wonder if the other three are just better than him. If so, it supports my hunch that no other SEC team is going to pick him up. If one of them does, especially one of the top tier teams, it will certainly support your argument about BM having prime talent. We shall see.

Do you think this mysterious thing that you've mentioned a few times will ever come to public knowledge?

 

[ShoalCreekVol]

First and last.

Too late.

 

[1vol8]

Back at ya, 1vol8. Respect you too. What you say here might very well be true. I was interpreting this as an old-fashioned quarterback battle in which the player of lesser ability came in fourth place. Nothing wrong with that, someone has to come in last. What I don't have access to, but you do, is an inside story about BM that would cause him to be fourth for a reason entirely apart from his ability. Maybe it's the credit card thing with the recruiting violations. Maybe it's something related to Pruitt being a total tool. I don't claim to know. Whatever it is, it carried over to the new staff. It must be something big for it to factor into Heupel's decision as well. That said, I'm not convinced that this mysterious thing you seem to know about is the actual reason for Brian's place in the pecking order. I'm no QB talent expert but I wonder if the other three are just better than him. If so, it supports my hunch that no other SEC team is going to pick him up. If one of them does, especially one of the top tier teams, it will certainly support your argument about BM having prime talent. We shall see.

Do you think this mysterious thing that you've mentioned a few times will ever come to public knowledge?

I’m waiting for the dust to settle and then we’ll see. There’s plenty I want to say about Pruitt as well that I’ve been quiet on for over a year now.

As far as the talent belief, let me give you some things to think about that may or may not give you a different perspective that this isn’t as simple as “he’s the least talented of the 4”. Brian was heavily recruited by Heupel at UCF, Just like Milton. He’s the fastest of the 4 on a team that isn’t expected to have a great o line. He has the second strongest arm next to Milton. He’s the most explosive from a dead stop and he’s probably the best of the 4 at throwing on the run. All things that will be needed at some point. His downfall? He’s immature. He hasn’t learned to let things bead up and roll off his back yet. Doesn’t know how to choose his battles. Wears his emotions on his sleeve and sometimes doesn’t know when to just shut up. Take that as a hint or take it as an excuse but out of respect for him and Heupel I’ll keep the details to myself but Brian did this to himself. Not talent related.

 

[84Volfan]

I’m waiting for the dust to settle and then we’ll see. There’s plenty I want to say about Pruitt as well that I’ve been quiet on for over a year now.

As far as the talent belief, let me give you some things to think about that may or may not give you a different perspective that this isn’t as simple as “he’s the least talented of the 4”. Brian was heavily recruited by Heupel at UCF, Just like Milton. He’s the fastest of the 4 on a team that isn’t expected to have a great o line. He has the second strongest arm next to Milton. He’s the most explosive from a dead stop and he’s probably the best of the 4 at throwing on the run. All things that will be needed at some point. His downfall? He’s immature. He hasn’t learned to let things bead up and roll off his back yet. Doesn’t know how to choose his battles. Wears his emotions on his sleeve and sometimes doesn’t know when to just shut up. Take that as a hint or take it as an excuse but out of respect for him and Heupel I’ll keep the details to myself but Brian did this to himself. Not talent related.

I have never really cared for all of the carrying of water you have done on here for Maurer in the past, but much respect for this post. Maybe him getting a life coach/mentor during this phase of his life to help with what you mentioned would be a good move. Regardless I wish him nothing but the best.

 

[Fore]

I’m waiting for the dust to settle and then we’ll see. There’s plenty I want to say about Pruitt as well that I’ve been quiet on for over a year now.

As far as the talent belief, let me give you some things to think about that may or may not give you a different perspective that this isn’t as simple as “he’s the least talented of the 4”. Brian was heavily recruited by Heupel at UCF, Just like Milton. He’s the fastest of the 4 on a team that isn’t expected to have a great o line. He has the second strongest arm next to Milton. He’s the most explosive from a dead stop and he’s probably the best of the 4 at throwing on the run. All things that will be needed at some point. His downfall? He’s immature. He hasn’t learned to let things bead up and roll off his back yet. Doesn’t know how to choose his battles. Wears his emotions on his sleeve and sometimes doesn’t know when to just shut up. Take that as a hint or take it as an excuse but out of respect for him and Heupel I’ll keep the details to myself but Brian did this to himself. Not talent related.

A huge part of the talent to play the QB position at a highest level is what goes on between the ears, the mental capacity. I hate to give away my age but I attended UT at the end of Shuler's career and the beginning of Manning's career at the school. I got to meet them both through the athletic department as I was playing a different sport and got the benefit of using he athletic tutors. Heath stopped by our apartment on a weekly basis to pick up the notes to a class my roommate attended and that he did not. Peyton was a total nerd who could be found in the library on a regular basis. He knew the playbook better before his freshman season began than Heath knew when he left as a junior. Heck, look at the draft between Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf. Only the uninformed would scoff now and say that was an obvious pick. There was a huge debate at the time. Ryan Leaf was more athletic, better arm, brash, and threw a better ball but what he didn't have was can the difference between having a great NFL career, even ending up in the Hall of Fame versus getting hooked on drugs and ending up in jail.

 

[DERELICK_MY_VOLS]

There are lots of talented QBs in the country…some at small schools…that end up in the NFL like Joe Flacco for instance. Hell Heupel himself went to Weber State, got injured then transferred to Snow College. There he got an offer to Utah State but met Stoops, went to Oklahoma, and the rest is history. With a Head Coach that went from a nobody to a Heisman runner up, AP Player of the Year, Consensus All-American, multiple college football player national awards, and won Stoops his only National Championship….if you’re lazy, feel self entitled, and don’t show leadership you ain’t playing quarterback for this man.

With that said nationwide there are QBs that can pass on the run, run faster than others, & throw deeper than most in practice. Then come game time throw into triple coverage…throw pick after pick…can’t read defenses under center…etc.

Some of these get Power 5 offers but don’t pan out because they are not coachable, have a $#!T attitude, can’t put the speed of the game together at that level, health issues, & mentally not able to handle the pressure at that level, etc…..any combination of those.

Wish the guy best of luck. BTW just because Heupel and Meyer (even if he’d not retired) recruited the guy to their former schools…there was no guarantee he’d be starting there either.

 

[1vol8]

I have never really cared for all of the carrying of water you have done on here for Maurer in the past, but much respect for this post. Maybe him getting a life coach/mentor during this phase of his life to help with what you mentioned would be a good move. Regardless I wish him nothing but the best.

I’ve known for quite a while how it looks on me defending him the way I have. That’s the hard part because most of those defenses are connected to the things I know that I couldn’t post on here. If I ever decide to come clean I feel confident that my name will be cleared but at what expense? I’m not willing to risk any damage to him or any other players to save myself on a message board.

 

[volinthenorth]

I’m waiting for the dust to settle and then we’ll see. There’s plenty I want to say about Pruitt as well that I’ve been quiet on for over a year now.

As far as the talent belief, let me give you some things to think about that may or may not give you a different perspective that this isn’t as simple as “he’s the least talented of the 4”. Brian was heavily recruited by Heupel at UCF, Just like Milton. He’s the fastest of the 4 on a team that isn’t expected to have a great o line. He has the second strongest arm next to Milton. He’s the most explosive from a dead stop and he’s probably the best of the 4 at throwing on the run. All things that will be needed at some point. His downfall? He’s immature. He hasn’t learned to let things bead up and roll off his back yet. Doesn’t know how to choose his battles. Wears his emotions on his sleeve and sometimes doesn’t know when to just shut up. Take that as a hint or take it as an excuse but out of respect for him and Heupel I’ll keep the details to myself but Brian did this to himself. Not talent related.

I could imagine Brian calling out Pruitt publicly for some of his stupidity and getting in trouble like Jauan did. I seem to remember that there was a week when Pruitt left Brian behind and he didn't get to travel with the team. A verbal shouting match in front of the team wouldn't surprise me. But it's hard to see why Heupel would now be holding that against him.

 

[1vol8]

A huge part of the talent to play the QB position at a highest level is what goes on between the ears, the mental capacity. I hate to give away my age but I attended UT at the end of Shuler's career and the beginning of Manning's career at the school. I got to meet them both through the athletic department as I was playing a different sport and got the benefit of using he athletic tutors. Heath stopped by our apartment on a weekly basis to pick up the notes to a class my roommate attended and that he did not. Peyton was a total nerd who could be found in the library on a regular basis. He knew the playbook better before his freshman season began than Heath knew when he left as a junior. Heck, look at the draft between Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf. Only the uninformed would scoff now and say that was an obvious pick. There was a huge debate at the time. Ryan Leaf was more athletic, better arm, brash, and threw a better ball but what he didn't have was can the difference between having a great NFL career, even ending up in the Hall of Fame versus getting hooked on drugs and ending up in jail.

I agree. Between the ears is the other half of playing qb that a lot of kids just don’t possess. However just like Cam Newton and Milton being freaks of nature physically, Manning was a freak of nature mentally. It’s unfair to compare either of the two freaks of nature vs the average size and mind imo.

 

[1vol8]

I could imagine Brian calling out Pruitt publicly for some of his stupidity and getting in trouble like Jauan did. I seem to remember that there was a week when Pruitt left Brian behind and he didn't get to travel with the team. A verbal shouting match in front of the team wouldn't surprise me. But it's hard to see why Heupel would now be holding that against him.

Shouting match? No. Brian never did that that I’m aware of. But I do know he was pissed after the Arkansas game last year. But he never did anything quite like what Juan did.

 

[volinthenorth]

Shouting match? No. Brian never did that that I’m aware of. But I do know he was pissed after the Arkansas game last year. But he never did anything quite like what Juan did.

Do you remember which game he didn't get to travel...and why? It was around the time he was in concussion protocol so maybe it was just that.