Maurer emerging as QB1?

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lexkyvol said:
i disagree.
and bailey both held onto the ball too long at times and had issues with the deep ball. both had issues, but JT processed coverages faster than them all to me
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Sorry, I see it in reverse from what you are seeing but they were close in their performances last year. So far from what has been posted here recently, Bailey has been underwhelming in spring practices. We will just have to wait about JT.
 
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jarnol32 said:
When I watch Bailey throw he reminds me of Justin Worley. Big kid with an average arm. Maurer has much more arm talent and can run better..
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Ya know you do have a point. I hadn't been able to place who he reminded me of. But you're right. He reminds me of Worley. Worley may not have been half bad in this offense. Worley was a system QB that couldn't read defences well and had little to no deep threat to him. Had they just went up tempo and gave him two diff people to look for and throw the ball in under 3 seconds every play he may have not looked half bad.
 
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sjt18 said:
It isn't a proven fact that he is injury prone. He had a head injury that would have caused a concussion in virtually anyone.

He has been inconsistent. He's had flashes as well. His chances of winning the job hinge on reducing mistakes and making big plays.

So if he beats out a guy who was a successful starter at VT and a 5* recruit... himself being an Elite 11 QB... that means UT is in deep crap? That's pretty weak reasoning.
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To prove me wrong, all he has to do is show it on the field. Pretty simple huh? It is a fact that he hasn’t proven anything yet. Again, don’t talk it, walk it. If he can do it, fabulous. Maybe he will. If he can’t, will be talking about it again next year like we have for the last two?
 
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KPT_VFL said:
I am not talking about mental health issues. That’s the honest to Gods truth too. You can be a headcase on the field which is what he is with his forced throws and awful decisions making just like JG was. I’m hiding behind nothing and I’m not backing down from it. You can try and paint me an my comments however you want. I wouldn’t joke about someone’s mental health issues and I said as much, you clearly have a personal relationship with 18 and that’s great but don’t try and paint me as someone who makes light of mental health issues because you dint agree with my opinion.
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By your definition of the word in the context you’re referring to, every qb that’s ever played is a headcase. I’ve been around this game all my life and concentrated on qbs since 2007. I can tell you for a fact that when any qb throws 30 times a game there’s at least two he shouldn’t have thrown in every game, every qb. Sometimes they get away with it, sometimes they don’t. It’s Especially true when you’re talking gunslingers.

What no one knows about Brian is what Pruitt was able to hide the best by benching him. He has tendencies. If he starts a game with an int he normally becomes more focused and usually goes on to have a great game. The earlier the int, the more cautious he becomes. His best statistical game he ever played was the first game Tyson Helton attended. His very first pass in that game was a pick 6. He finished that game with 509 passing yards, 3 tds and 195 rushing and 3 tds. And that lone pick. I can go on with stories like that but my point is, how do we know if that grit translates to the college game for him if Pruitt benched him after every mistake? Pruitt benching him so willingly is the reason his reputation exists to begin with because he was never given the opportunity to redeem himself so his bad play is what’s remembered.
 
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Delmar said:
To prove me wrong, all he has to do is show it on the field. Pretty simple huh? It is a fact that he hasn’t proven anything yet. Again, don’t talk it, walk it. If he can do it, fabulous. Maybe he will. If he can’t, will be talking about it again next year like we have for the last two?
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He's definitely shown flashes you like to see, but the closest he's come to "proving it" was the first half of the Georgia game. One half of one game is not proving yourself.

That said, I like the guy. I like his moxy and IF he can iron out some issues in his game, I really believe with his skillset, he's the best QB for this offense..

Huepel will figure this out..
 
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tnvols72 said:
Speaking of JG , he is heating up according to the headline.

Jarrett Guarantano heating up in WSU spring football, flashes arm strength
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Sportswriters are useless. Nobody in TN has denied his arm strength that was always a given. It's his timing and being able to see the field. As we all are well aware JG is a great practice/Scrimmage QB. Game time matters, not the practice field. When the dude is on the field and the lights come on it's poaching time for the defense.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Not sure why you are picking at the fact that Maurer played not because he earned and beat out JG but because a change was needed because of JG’s poor play. The fact that JG was the starter the next year also indicates that BM never beat him out as a starter.
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To be fair we as fans do not know if JG actually beat out the competition. There are always biases in coaching decisions. JP was a run-first guy with an old-school mentality. One could clearly see the bias in Pruitt. How many games did JG throw multiple interceptions and had the offense stagnant yet JP kept going to the well? Being a defensive guy JP couldn't spot offensive talent if it hit him in the face. JG might do well in the PAC-12 given the weaker defenses in that conference.
 
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m1al said:
He's definitely shown flashes you like to see, but the closest he's come to "proving it" was the first half of the Georgia game. One half of one game is not proving yourself.

That said, I like the guy. I like his moxy and IF he can iron out some issues in his game, I really believe with his skillset, he's the best QB for this offense..

Huepel will figure this out..
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One way I saw it said was that Maurer has the highest ceiling but also the lowest floor of the 3. That observation is consistent with what I've seen out of him in games. Same person also said Hooker had the lowest ceiling but the highest floor.
 
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EODVOL said:
Sportswriters are useless. Nobody in TN has denied his arm strength that was always a given. It's his timing and being able to see the field. As we all are well aware JG is a great practice/Scrimmage QB. Game time matters, not the practice field. When the dude is on the field and the lights come on it's poaching time for the defense.
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If he thrives out there it's going to make the last 2 regimes look even worse.
 
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Personally, I think you have to throw out, for the most part, all of the past stats, good and bad, of all the QBs and just be content to sit and wait for CJH and company to settle on the guy they think gives the best chance.

The offenses are so different that former play just doesn’t translate to much. Whoever plays QB in this offense has to be a field general above all else. Whoever absorbs the offense the best, has the swagger CJH demands, and most of all, instills the highest degree of confidence in the other 10 guys on the field, is likely the one who gets the nod, IMO. The coaching staff will adapt to that player’s physical abilities.
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
Personally, I think you have to throw out, for the most part, all of the past stats, good and bad, of all the QBs and just be content to sit and wait for CJH and company to settle on the guy they think gives the best chance.

The offenses are so different that former play just doesn’t translate to much. Whoever plays QB in this offense has to be a field general above all else. Whoever absorbs the offense the best, has the swagger CJH demands, and most of all, instills the highest degree of confidence in the other 10 guys on the field, is likely the one who gets the nod, IMO. The coaching staff will adapt to that player’s physical abilities.
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And...takes care of the football.
They need to be able to do everything you mentioned Plus take care of the ball.
That's the only thing IMO that will potentially keep Brian from locking down the starting spot.

Have to say, it was nice to see Hendon Hooker show some consistency. That's a good thing to have in place just in case.
 
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LittleVol said:
And...takes care of the football.
They need to be able to do everything you mentioned Plus take care of the ball.
That's the only thing IMO that will potentially keep Brian from locking down the starting spot.

Have to say, it was nice to see Hendon Hooker show some consistency. That's a good thing to have in place just in case.
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Fwiw, the word I got wasn’t that his two picks were bad decisions. They were just under thrown deep balls but the receiver were open. Could mean his decision making has improved and just a simple timing issue
 
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Heupel is looking for a QB that can score us a TD on every possession. My guess is if there is any chance the Vols can score 70 on any opponent the coming season he will do it.
 
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m1al said:
He's definitely shown flashes you like to see, but the closest he's come to "proving it" was the first half of the Georgia game. One half of one game is not proving yourself.

That said, I like the guy. I like his moxy and IF he can iron out some issues in his game, I really believe with his skillset, he's the best QB for this offense..

Huepel will figure this out..
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And if Heupel figures it out, we’ll all be happier than we’ve been in a while.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Heupel is looking for a QB that can score us a TD on every possession. My guess is if there is any chance the Vols can score 70 on any opponent the coming season he will do it.
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I really hope we don't put 70 on Tennessee Tech, there's no honor in that. Now, if we can do it to Bama I'm all for it.
 
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tennesseeduke said:
Lol have you seen the games he plays in?
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Yes. He took a hit in the UGA game and was cleared to go back in but Pruitt chose to stick with JG. He was flipped on his head vs MSU then reinjured the same injury vs Bama.

Again, if you hate the kid then just be honest enough to say so. If you want one of the others to start and are looking for a reason to cut on the others... just be honest about it.
 
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Delmar said:
To prove me wrong, all he has to do is show it on the field. Pretty simple huh? It is a fact that he hasn’t proven anything yet. Again, don’t talk it, walk it. If he can do it, fabulous. Maybe he will. If he can’t, will be talking about it again next year like we have for the last two?
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Bailey hasn't shown it on the field either. Hooker has to a degree at VT.

Hopefully UT has an established starter going into next season.
 
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sjt18 said:
Yes. He took a hit in the UGA game and was cleared to go back in but Pruitt chose to stick with JG. He was flipped on his head vs MSU then reinjured the same injury vs Bama.

Again, if you hate the kid then just be honest enough to say so. If you want one of the others to start and are looking for a reason to cut on the others... just be honest about it.
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I forgot about that hit in the UGA game. That was a decleater. It was a scary moment there on the sideline when he dropped like a stone.
 
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I'm baffled that after knowing the extent of the dumpster fire under Pruitt that extended into every aspect of the program, people are still trying to evaluate what happened on the field under him as some kind of indicator of success. No quarterback in Pruitt's tenure looked good for more than a random part of some games. Hell, JG may actually be competent at WSU. You can't know because the coaching/schemes/playcalling was that pathetic of not only the QB, but the OL/WR/RB. It was a mix of Fulmer's worst offensive traits and Pruitt's unique crapshow mentality that produced putrid results out of some fairly talented players across the board.

Maurer continually got put into terrible spots in his career to date. "Hey, let's start him against the best defenses in the league!" 'Hey, lets give him 3 plays and yank him but leave JG in when he plays much worse!" Nothing that happened under Pruitt should be used to judge any player, especially offensive players. I can only assume Cheney was a spineless check casher who just put up with whatever because UT threw more money at him than anyone else in the country was willing to throw at him.

I don't care who the QB is, I just want them to look competent. I think that won't be an issue with Huepel especially in the seasons after this one.
 
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