Matt Simms discussion (merged)

#151
#151
I am not saying this to be negative, I am in full support of Dooley's and this team. But did anyone else notice how poorly Simms played overall? His mechanics are pretty bad...he takes forever to wind up and throw the ball! He thinks his arm is stronger that what it actually is, he is not very accurate and has incredibly bad vision of the field. He locks on is first read and dosent go through his progressions. I was very disappointed in his play and I hope he can get better. IMO Bray will take over in the next few games...but that all depends on how fast Bray can learn the offense.
 
#153
#153
look our first half success had more to do with the running game than simms. we decided to come out throwing in the second half and went three and out, giving up field position and a score. Simms is what we have. We were over matched and our lack of depth showed when we got out of our game plan.
 
#154
#154
govols57 said:
I am not saying this to be negative, I am in full support of Dooley's and this team. But did anyone else notice how poorly Simms played overall? His mechanics are pretty bad...he takes forever to wind up and throw the ball! He thinks his arm is stronger that what it actually is, he is not very accurate and has incredibly bad vision of the field. He locks on is first read and dosent go through his progressions. I was very disappointed in his play and I hope he can get better. IMO Bray will take over in the next few games...but that all depends on how fast Bray can learn the offense.
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I don't think I have seen one post to date on here about Simms play.
 
#155
#155
All of this discussion of his mechanics and arm strength is garbage. Kid has good mechanics and plenty of hop on the ball. Decision making is the issue and you can tell that the coaches absolutely fear it. Same can be said for almost every first time starter in the SEC. The question, for all QBs, is, do they overcome it due to skill, learning and decision making or are they of the can't process it all quickly enough capacity.
 
#156
#156
govols57 said:
I am not saying this to be negative, I am in full support of Dooley's and this team. But did anyone else notice how poorly Simms played overall? His mechanics are pretty bad...he takes forever to wind up and throw the ball! He thinks his arm is stronger that what it actually is, he is not very accurate and has incredibly bad vision of the field. He locks on is first read and dosent go through his progressions. I was very disappointed in his play and I hope he can get better. IMO Bray will take over in the next few games...but that all depends on how fast Bray can learn the offense.
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Simms made a bad decision on the pick 6. Other than that, I am trying to think of a pass that could make you think he played that poorly.

I don't think it is a lack of arm strength. I think he throws the long ball late.

I would like to see him check down more and would love to see him find the TE's. IMO, UT's O becomes considerably more difficult to defend when the TE's get involved.

He isn't the only problem in the passing game. WR play right now is a bigger problem.
 
#157
#157
Florida will stop our running game and force Simms to pass, which will in turn be our demize. He looked bad in all aspects of the game
 
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#158
BigPapaVol said:
All of this discussion of his mechanics and arm strength is garbage. Kid has good mechanics and plenty of hop on the ball. Decision making is the issue and you can tell that the coaches absolutely fear it. Same can be said for almost every first time starter in the SEC. The question, for all QBs, is, do they overcome it due to skill, learning and decision making or are they of the can't process it all quickly enough capacity.
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Well said. Either the game eventually slows down for him or it doesn't. I'm just thrilled he has time to throw the ball...so far.
 
#159
#159
His low delivery is a big-time disadvantage....expect to see batted balls all year long
 
#161
#161
Just like with just about every QB we have had since Cutcliffe left, physical tools aren't really the problem. It is a matter of learning the game.
 
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#162
Lexvol said:
Well said. Either the game eventually slows down for him or it doesn't. I'm just thrilled he has time to throw the ball...so far.
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I like the time to throw, but the tales of UO's defensive greatness were...well, just full of crap.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I like the time to throw, but the tales of UO's defensive greatness were...well, just full of crap.
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Can't disagree. But it was a big game on a big stage and they didn't completely wilt. They outperformed my expectations.

Florida's defense will be much better. You would get no argument from me if we emptied the backfield and threw bubble screens all day this week.
 
#164
#164
Lexvol said:
Can't disagree. But it was a big game on a big stage and they didn't completely wilt. They outperformed my expectations.

Florida's defense will be much better. You would get no argument from me if we emptied the backfield and threw bubble screens all day this week.
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I think there is some talent up there, but they could manhandle UO for the most part, which can help mask a lot of deficiencies. I will grant that the line isn't as bad, so far, as everyone predicted. QB situation is probably as bad as imaginable - again. LB situation is surprisingly an issue.
 
#166
#166
You have to wonder how his confidence was having such inexperienced receivers to throw to. At least with Jones, and a healthy Moore, you could count on them to run routes correctly. I'm not saying the other guys didn't run the routes correctly, but rather if Simms could trust that they would.
 
#167
#167
I agree that the game either slows down or it doesn't but what get me is that he very rarely looks off the first read at other recievers...You even said he had time to throw but again stared the reciever down and hardly ever looked at any other reads...We have had problems in the past with this and I hope he sees that their were a lot of other options that were open...Stocker was open most of the game and the one big pass play he threw was all because Hunter went and took it away...I really like Simms but he needs to know that against a good D you can not stare at your only read...Dooley will get them ready for the gators!!!
 
#168
#168
BigPapaVol said:
All of this discussion of his mechanics and arm strength is garbage. Kid has good mechanics and plenty of hop on the ball. Decision making is the issue and you can tell that the coaches absolutely fear it. Same can be said for almost every first time starter in the SEC. The question, for all QBs, is, do they overcome it due to skill, learning and decision making or are they of the can't process it all quickly enough capacity.
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I'm about this close to stripping you of GoF-emeritus status.

With his moxie, I assume Simms was following strict orders NOT to throw in the middle of the field Saturday. Problem is, you might throw fewer picks to the sidelines, but those are the ones that go for 6 the wrong way.

Dooley was about this close to calling out Chaney in public after the game.

However, if Chaney still has "Crompton Fever" who can really blame him? And, missing Gerald Jones REALLY, REALLY hurt our offensive balance. I think it might have been a 7-point game (either way) with Jones in the game. I really think it would have been huge.
 
#169
#169
Why would Dooley be calling out Chaney? He's on the headsets too. He is tacitly approving every call made and was there at halftime when we made the decision to throw it around.

There is no doubt that we are intentionally avoiding the middle of the field and that isn't a Chaney issue.
 
#170
#170
I agree, the loss of Jones hurt us more than we might realize. I think he gives more on-field leadership and is a true alternate threat to balance Poole. Loved seeing D. Rogers take the end around early in the game but that was one and done without Jones. D. Moore isn't Jones and Z. Rogers is a good, but traditional wide out or slot receiver--not the same kind of wild card that Jones provides. We need someone to fill that gap next week.
 
#172
#172
sjt18 said:
Simms made a bad decision on the pick 6. Other than that, I am trying to think of a pass that could make you think he played that poorly.
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Did you even watch the game? I seen many plays with WIDE OPEN targets that IF he just would have looked could have probably kept us in the game. The OP is right. He locks on 1 receiver and never sees anyone else. Bad vision , or game is still too fast to him I dunno , but either way somethings got to give. I was so excired up til 3rd quarter. Still had hope of a come back after the pick , cause thats what we do, but I think Chaney relied WAY TOO much on run. Every play was obvious and was stupid given the time and deficit. Reminded me of Fulmers days
 
#173
#173
BigPapaVol said:
Why would Dooley be calling out Chaney? He's on the headsets too. He is tacitly approving every call made and was there at halftime when we made the decision to throw it around.

There is no doubt that we are intentionally avoiding the middle of the field and that isn't a Chaney issue.
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Watch the post-game interview and tell me what you think. I think the "over-correction" in the second half was from an azz-chewing at halftime. Tell me what you think.

I know we are avoiding the middle - because Simms throws high, and we want to limit his decsion-making process. But we ran into the problem Sat night - picks to the sideline = -6 to -8 points. Picks over the middle, not so much. Oh, and they figured out we weren't going to let him throw over the middle...... Helps DBs get jumps. When they put that cluster of three receivers on the right side, it was just begging for INT.
 
#174
#174
BigPapaVol said:
All of this discussion of his mechanics and arm strength is garbage. Kid has good mechanics and plenty of hop on the ball. Decision making is the issue and you can tell that the coaches absolutely fear it. Same can be said for almost every first time starter in the SEC. The question, for all QBs, is, do they overcome it due to skill, learning and decision making or are they of the can't process it all quickly enough capacity.
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You say that like it is such a fact. We all have an opinion and that is just yours. IMO field vision, accuracy, locking in are parts of mechanics.
 
#175
#175
govols57 said:
I am not saying this to be negative, I am in full support of Dooley's and this team. But did anyone else notice how poorly Simms played overall? His mechanics are pretty bad...he takes forever to wind up and throw the ball! He thinks his arm is stronger that what it actually is, he is not very accurate and has incredibly bad vision of the field. He locks on is first read and dosent go through his progressions. I was very disappointed in his play and I hope he can get better. IMO Bray will take over in the next few games...but that all depends on how fast Bray can learn the offense.
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You and me share the exact same thought. Let's give 100% support, but this is just what we are observing.
 
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