Mass Shooting Thread

#251
#251
K-town Vol Fan said:
You want to argue about crime rates. This is the mass shooting thread. They are 2 separate things. You are trying to link poor black kids killing each other for looking sideways to mass shootings. They aren't the same. I just showed you. The 10 deadliest mass killers over the last 10 years are overwhelmingly white, and none are black.
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And you want to blame guns. If mass shootings were so common and deadly and primarily done by white people as you claim, white people wouldn’t represent should a low number of homicides relative to their population size.

You want to try to make this into a gun control issue when the data does not back that up even slightly
 
#252
#252
lawgator1 said:
Are blacks genetically predisposed to commit more violent crime than their white counterparts ?
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The “why” is the important question for sure. I personally blame culture more than anything.

Why do you believe they’re around 10x more likely to commit homicide?
 
#256
#256
Smokey123 said:
You brought up strict definitions and then switched to studies…
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Yes, studies of mass shootings will use different criteria for how they classify a mass shooting. So when you ask how many are committed by a group, you first have to define the term. So I mentioned that depending on your definition, the recent DC event may not qualify.

Why is this taking 100 responses for you to get?
 
#257
#257
Vol8188 said:
Yes, studies of mass shootings will use different criteria for how they classify a mass shooting. So when you ask how many are committed by a group, you first have to define the term. So I mentioned that depending on your definition, the recent DC event may not qualify.

Why is this taking 100 responses for you to get?
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Ya, that’s why I answered your question with not according to the FBI……
 
#260
#260
Vol8188 said:
You didn’t actually answer it. You just stated the FBI doesn’t count it, not that your preferred definition was the fbi definition
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You didnt ask me my definition. You’re the one who said mass shootings go by a strict definition and couldn’t answer either of the questions I asked.
 
#263
#263
Smokey123 said:
You didnt ask me my definition. You’re the one who said mass shootings go by a strict definition and couldn’t answer either of the questions I asked.
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Back on topic. Middle eastern people are significantly over represented in mass shootings. Approx 4% of shooters vs approx 1% of the population.

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Public Mass Shootings: Database Amasses Details of a Half Century of U.S. Mass Shootings with Firearms, Generating Psychosocial Histories

Persons who committed public mass shootings in the U.S. over the last half century were commonly troubled by personal trauma before their shooting incidents, nearly always in a state of crisis at the time, and, in most cases, engaged in leaking their plans before opening fire. Most were insiders...
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#264
#264
Vol8188 said:
Back on topic. Middle eastern people are significantly over represented in mass shootings. Approx 4% of shooters vs approx 1% of the population.

nij.ojp.gov

Public Mass Shootings: Database Amasses Details of a Half Century of U.S. Mass Shootings with Firearms, Generating Psychosocial Histories

Persons who committed public mass shootings in the U.S. over the last half century were commonly troubled by personal trauma before their shooting incidents, nearly always in a state of crisis at the time, and, in most cases, engaged in leaking their plans before opening fire. Most were insiders...
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That doesn’t answer my question.
 
#265
#265
Smokey123 said:
That doesn’t answer my question.
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Sounds like the flaw is in your question. I’ve never proclaimed all cultures to be equal. I’m actually a big fan of Hispanic culture.

If middle eastern immigrants are significantly more likely to commit mass murder, we should vet them to a greater degree
 
#266
#266
Vol8188 said:
Sounds like the flaw is in your question. I’ve never proclaimed all cultures to be equal. I’m actually a big fan of Hispanic culture.

If middle eastern immigrants are significantly more likely to commit mass murder, we should vet them to a greater degree
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A simple “idk” would have been a lot better than the bs
 
#267
#267
Smokey123 said:
A simple “idk” would have been a lot better than the bs
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Seems your question didn’t really matter. What if they were over represented? I showed middle eastern men are significantly overrepresented.

Does that change anything for you? Or are you just looking to waste everyone’s time?
 
#268
#268
Vol8188 said:
Seems your question didn’t really matter. What if they were over represented? I showed middle eastern men are significantly overrepresented.

Does that change anything for you? Or are you just looking to waste everyone’s time?
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That’s literally what you just did.
 
#272
#272
Vol8188 said:
Not even remotely. You asked about immigrants. I showed a subset of immigrants are overrepresented.

So now, what? What does that change for you?
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I asked a question, you didn’t answer, I asked another question, you didnt answer, Then rambled on about bs, Then sent a study. Stop wasting my time if you’re not gonna follow along
 
#273
#273
Smokey123 said:
I asked a question, you didn’t answer, I asked another question, you didnt answer, Then rambled on about bs, Then sent a study. Stop wasting my time if you’re not gonna follow along
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You responded with a question about a separate topic. I’m not proclaiming all immigrants are equal. You and I both know Japanese men are significantly less likely than middle eastern men to commit mass murder. So your question was an intentionally loaded one and off topic.

I was responding regarding an attack by a middle eastern men and stating we should vet them to a greater degree because they’re more of a threat.

Your question is irrelevant and insanely ignorant because it assumes all immigrants to be from cultures that are equally violent.
 
#274
#274
Smokey123 said:
I asked a question, you didn’t answer, I asked another question, you didnt answer, Then rambled on about bs, Then sent a study. Stop wasting my time if you’re not gonna follow along
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If you don’t care that a subset of immigrants are significantly overrepresented why even ask about immigrants? If it doesn’t matter
 
#275
#275
Vol8188 said:
You responded with a question about a separate topic. I’m not proclaiming all immigrants are equal. You and I both know Japanese men are significantly less likely than middle eastern men to commit mass murder. So your question was an intentionally loaded one and off topic.

I was responding regarding an attack by a middle eastern men and stating we should vet them to a greater degree because they’re more of a threat.

Your question is irrelevant and insanely ignorant because it assumes all immigrants to be from cultures that are equally violent.
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You originally responded to a question I asked someone else and once again, a simple “idk” would have been sufficient to my original question. Are you done with the bs?
 
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