Mannings mooning incident on ESPN.

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ru4real-really? said:
Where there is smoke, it follows that there must be lawyers.

There must have been damages (real or imagined) or there would not have been a $300,000 settlement (real).

Part of that settlement was a non-disclosure clause. That means you don't talk about it even if you have spent the money.
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The problem with that argument is that it wasn't Dr. Naughright who violated the non-disclosure agreement. Peyton broke the agreement by mentioning her in his book. That opened the floodgates on the matter. Apparently, Peyton's advisors didn't have his best interests in mind.
 
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Special Ed said:
I'm not assuming anything.
I gleaned that from the court documents!
Aside from that, the university wouldn't have paid Dr. Naughright a settlement of $300,000 back then for something that didn't happen.
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Settlements are paid for a lot of reasons aside from guilt. If the cost of defending the suit exceeds the settlement amount that guarantees an outcome, it's pretty much a given. That's why this nation needs to require the losing party pay all legal costs.
 
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Special Ed said:
I'm not assuming anything.
I gleaned that from the court documents!
Aside from that, the university wouldn't have paid Dr. Naughright a settlement of $300,000 back then for something that didn't happen.
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What specific court documents? If it's anything other than a judgement or an admission of guilt then it's all accusation and hearsay.

And people and institutions pay all the time. I don't think they should, but it happens.
 
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armchair said:
What Manning actually did, apparently, was covered up 20 years ago. It wasn't mooning. The fact is, a lot of sexual assaults have been covered up or kept quiet by lots of institutions that don't want bad publicity--and this is the result.
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Very true
 
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Boca Vol said:
His name is mentioned in regards to this episode from 20 years ago pertaining to the "culture" at UT. Manning isn't being sued.

The Jalen Hurd incident from Dec. 2014 is also mentioned...Hurd isn't being sued.
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Let Jalen become rich in NFL and then OMG "Ive got to come forward"
 
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TennVols423 said:
I almost named my son Peyton, this hurts....

Peyton is wrong, the Mannings are wrong....instead of being a man and owning up to his childish "prank" he instead trashed the woman.

Believe me, I felt same way up until I read the deposition and the letter from Saxson.
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Not sure if serious.
 
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TennVols423 said:
I almost named my son Peyton, this hurts....

Peyton is wrong, the Mannings are wrong....instead of being a man and owning up to his childish "prank" he instead trashed the woman.

Believe me, I felt same way up until I read the deposition and the letter from Saxson.
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I certainly believe something happened, but again, since none of us was there, we can't know for sure.

Saxon was apparently there. And I'm sure there were other athletes there as well. I guess Saxon was he only one brave enough to come forward?

And how brave was he? He didn't give a statement under oath. He wrote a letter to Peyton that he obviously saved a copy of and then "shared with the court" seven years later.

Nothing suspicious there.
 
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Boca Vol said:
His name is mentioned in regards to this episode from 20 years ago pertaining to the "culture" at UT. Manning isn't being sued.

The Jalen Hurd incident from Dec. 2014 is also mentioned...Hurd isn't being sued.
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The Jalen Hurd incident? Can someone please enlighten me?

...I also think it's bs that his name is mentioned because it pertains to any existing culture 20 years later. His name is mentioned because it creates headlines and stirs attention toward the case which benefits the plaintiffs in their pursuit of a large settlement. His name and that 20 year old incident were mentioned only because of his fame.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
Let Jalen become rich in NFL and then OMG "Ive got to come forward"
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BowlBrother85 said:
The Jalen Hurd incident? Can someone please enlighten me?

...I also think it's bs that his name is mentioned because it pertains to any existing culture 20 years later. His name is mentioned because it creates headlines and stirs attention toward the case which benefits the plaintiffs in their pursuit of a large settlement. His name and that 20 year old incident were mentioned only because of his fame.
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Hurd was mentioned for his underage drinking citation.

Look, Manning isn't being sued over this. This episode from 20 years ago was mentioned in regards to the "culture" of the athletic dept. at UT.

Here is the suit...It would do a lot of posters good to read it.

Lawsuit alleges the University of Tennessee has violated Title IX
 
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Boca Vol said:
Hurd was mentioned for his underage drinking citation.

Look, Manning isn't being sued over this. This episode from 20 years ago was mentioned in regards to the "culture" of the athletic dept. at UT.

Here is the suit...It would do a lot of posters good to read it.

Lawsuit alleges the University of Tennessee has violated Title IX
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I didnt know what incident as I was just responding. But if it were alleged then it wouldnt bother said hypothetical victim until hypothetical said perpetrator has loads of cash unless the target is University which everyone knows they have cash.
 
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At the Grammy's tonite, Kanye is going to send this one out to Peyton...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vwNcNOTVzY[/youtube]
 
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TennVols423 said:
I almost named my son Peyton, this hurts....

Peyton is wrong, the Mannings are wrong....instead of being a man and owning up to his childish "prank" he instead trashed the woman.

Believe me, I felt same way up until I read the deposition and the letter from Saxson.
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He owned up to it. All 3 times she sued him.

TennVols423 said:
You obviously have not read the Depostion....

This was not a prank, it's starting to become very clear what Peyton's intentions were!
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It was a prank. He used poor judgement perhaps. But it was a prank. Her story has changed. She went after his money after he started making a lot. If she really felt violated at the time, she would have taken it to the police. Did she? Or did she go after money? How did she feel violated again when her name wasn't mentioned in his book? Oh, nevermind $$$. He tried one time to defend his actions on the radio again without naming her $$$.

And yes, I've read the deposition. The one-sided deposition that gives only her account of things. That is the main problem these lawyers have with the way UT handles all these allegations that are being lumped together. The accused are provided the opportunity to defend themselves. When the accused aren't allowed the opportunity to defend themselves and instead just get slandered as in this rehashed 20-year old incident, it's people like you that take the accusations for face-value and run with them and cause a complete travesty of justice.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Hurd was mentioned for his underage drinking citation.

Look, Manning isn't being sued over this. This episode from 20 years ago was mentioned in regards to the "culture" of the athletic dept. at UT.

Here is the suit...It would do a lot of posters good to read it.

Lawsuit alleges the University of Tennessee has violated Title IX
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As much as I am curious to know how a college football player's underage drinking in any way pertains to Title 9, I'm not going to sift through 64 pages of legalese.

I just want to say that Clay Travis has shown some guts the last two days. We know he is not a Vol homer but he is the only member of the media to defend Manning and has done so by citing facts that others can't dispute. They just refer back to what Shaun King wrote in the New York Daily News.

He is the only member of the media to point out that Jamie Whited signed an affidavit in 1997 stating that there was no physical contact in the training room incident (her version of events changed in the 2003 defamation suit) and he is the only one to bring up Shaun King's significant integrity issues.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
As much as I am curious to know how a college football player's underage drinking in any way pertains to Title 9, I'm not going to sift through 64 pages of legalese.

I just want to say that Clay Travis has shown some guts the last two days. We know he is not a Vol homer but he is the only member of the media to defend Manning and has done so by citing facts that others can't dispute. They just refer back to what Shaun King wrote in the New York Daily News.

He is the only member of the media to point out that Jamie Whited signed an affidavit in 1997 stating that there was no physical contact in the training room incident (her version of events changed in the 2003 defamation suit) and he is the only one to bring up Shaun King's significant integrity issues.
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If you want to know what the lawsuit is about, you'll take the time to sift through it. Otherwise, you get a lot of what you've seen in this thread. As it pertains to title IX is simply about how athletes are treated at UT.
 
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Hacksaw said:
I don't think it's accurate to say it was swept under the rug. It was covered extensively in the media at the time. The story ran it's course, as stories like this do. Now 2 decades later they want to dig it back up again. It's a bunch of crap.
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You know why they want to dig it back up don't you? Because we're starting to have success again in football. They don't want that to happen.
 
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More like he lit the fire again and every sporting news outlet is running the story again.
 
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It's curious that in cases where it's one student's word against another's, the school should be in the business of providing one of the students top-flight legal services, presumably for free. If A.J. Johnson had accused a girl of theft, would the school hire Don Bosch for her?
 
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When I was at UT, my frat brothers would moon sweetheart candidates to get their reactions to see if they had the desired sense of humor to be the winner. It was and is childish, but not unheard of from college aged kids. This is an ambulance chaser's attempt to make a weak case stronger.
 
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