Manning silent, Blackburn never got formal interview

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GAVol said:
Not what I'm staying at all. I know they know exactly who he is. I just genuinely don't understand why people automatically jumped into "Blackburn or bust" mode when there were obviously going to be other candidates with resumes that included experience with much larger athletic departments.

For right or for wrong, I don't see how an SEC school stipulating that their AD have Power 5 experience is all that controversial.
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Because probably 90% saw DB as the obvious, most qualified hire that would bring back trust of the Athletic Department and unity among the fan base, two things badly needed at this point. The right guy was already in your system, was the overwhelming fan favorite and had already publicly stated he'd love to be the guy. And instead, we got this ridiculously long, drawn out political dog and pony show that hired a guy who was the top lieutenant of the worst AD administration in school history that gave us the last near decade of futility. Imho, that's why.
 
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GAVol said:
You can't seriously say that with a straight face as it pertains to an academic. I mean, Harvard isn't a Power 5 school either. Do you think that would disqualify an administrator from Harvard from working at UT?
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Or vice versa - folks who work they way up the ladder so to speak have to find an opportunity to perform at the next level and an employer that is willing to allow them to do so.

No CEO ever started as a CEO and there are some who did not have CEO experience when they were hired.

Some on here I guess would be okay if their employer overlooked them for a promotion to a new role because they did not have experience at that role.
 
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05_never_again said:
Are you not reading responses to this question you have?

As GAVol and I have both said, if Davenport came from Harvard, which is not a P5 school, would she still be a hypocrite?

Being Chancellor is an academic position first and foremost. Being in a "Power 5 Conference" is an athletic classification.
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Drop and erase the P5 reference before continuing to read.

No matter if she come from Harvard, Yale or Cincinnati she has no Chancellor experience.
 
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MikeVol44 said:
Well said, KB!!

I am an alumnus of UTC--and what Blackburn has accomplished and maintained there is extraordinary. He would've been the home run hire....

I personally think Fulmer would've been a good hire, too, because it would have been a signal that the administration was FINALLY willing to step out of the way and let the "SPORTS-PEOPLE" actually run the dern show.

Davenport, in my opinion, just made a hire in defiance of all the recommendations of the "sports" people by hiring another pencil-neck in the mold of Hamilton. Instead of oversight, she stating clearly that she is in control.....and has now hired the "yes-man" to prove it.
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You should have never said anything about being a UTC alum. According to many on VN, you cannot be a true Volunteer.
 
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Some of our fans are so hung up on Blackburn about as worse as a clingy girlfriend. Move on people, give Currie a chance and let it be.
 
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Roustabout said:
Jimmy Haslam needs to write checks and get away from any decision making at Tennessee. You think he'd have his hands full with the Pilot scandal and the dumpster fire up in Cleveland.

Peyton Manning should have chaired the search committee.

Davenport obviously cracked under the pressure from how this was drug out while waiting until her formal start date.

Any proper search would have 1st established mandatory formal qualifications, as well as properly defined roles for the search committee. Those qualifications would then be posted for any potential applicants so as to narrow the pool. This way you avoid any confusion of DQ'ing a candidate over arbitrary reasons.

This would then filter into a formal interview process, that would be objective and consistent for each candidate. It's obvious ylthe left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing. It was that way before Davenport arrived and appears she was rattled by the good ole boy politicking at play.
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Peyton and Jimmy on same page with the hire
 
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chargervol said:
But she didn't come from Harvard. As I pointed out earlier she's never been the actual hired Chancellor at any University, no matter how large or small.
Whether anyone likes it or not, there is a touch of irony in going from an interim for one year, to running the University of Tennessee..While putting years of experience as your top qualifier for hires.
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Well, would you rather the new chancellor go after candidates with higher or lower qualifications? She's the duly hired chancellor. Are you saying that it is better for the university to make sure hiring standards stay low?

Since you're calling her a hypocrite.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Some of our fans are so hung up on Blackburn about as worse as a clingy girlfriend. Move on people, give Currie a chance and let it be.
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Thank you. The strength and passion of the opinions here are an inverse relationship to the actual knowledge of the issue. I'm a UTC alum and am very happy with Blackburn's work here. But, daaang the growth of his legendary status around here is comical.

Had DB been chosen, I would have been happy. But he wasn't, so let's move forward with the choice.
 
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KBVol said:
Because probably 90% saw DB as the obvious, most qualified hire that would bring back trust of the Athletic Department and unity among the fan base, two things badly needed at this point. The right guy was already in your system, was the overwhelming fan favorite and had already publicly stated he'd love to be the guy. And instead, we got this ridiculously long, drawn out political dog and pony show that hired a guy who was the top lieutenant of the worst AD administration in school history that gave us the last near decade of futility. Imho, that's why.
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How do you know DB was the most qualified and "the right guy?" Who cares if he was the fan favorite? Fans can be wrong, especially about stuff like this.

You forget that DB was also part of the worst AD administration in school history, albeit he wasn't a top lieutenant, and he allegedly was against the Kiffin and Dooley hirings (I've only ever heard this from the pro-DB guys though).

It might end up being the wrong decision, but I understand why Davenport wanted somebody with P5 experience. Tennessee is not a get-your-feet-wet type of job.

I don't know if DB or Currie is a better choice. They both like attractive candidates, but Currie is much more experienced at this level. It is unfortunate that DB is almost guaranteed to leave the UT system at some point since he didn't get this job.
 
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Behr said:
I'll be honest, I'd never heard of Blackburn when his name started being brought up here. Because I usually agree with you on most football related subjects, and you seemed to think Blackburn would be a solid choice, I leaned towards wanting him. Then I did a little research myself and thought he would be great.

When I heard Peyton was on the committee and would hold one of the most influential votes, I somehow made up in my mind that he would be in favor of Blackburn and/or Fulmer. With all of that swimming around in my mind, I was sold on Blackburn or Fulmer. I wasn't really happy with the thought of Phil, but again, thought if Peyton wanted him, I would trust him over my personal uneducated opinion.
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You speak for me also.

Hey Behr, do you remember seeing something before Christmas that said that Davenport would not hire anyone that was connected to the Title IX issues?
 
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livefaith said:
Well, would you rather the new chancellor go after candidates with higher or lower qualifications? She's the duly hired chancellor. Are you saying that it is better for the university to make sure hiring standards stay low?

Since you're calling her a hypocrite.
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That's exactly what I tried to explain as well, but I got accused of running a strawman argument.

He said that the new Chancellor is a hypocrite because she wanted to hire an experienced AD despite being inexperienced at her own job. Presumably, you'd rather her not be a hypocrite. For her to not be hypocritical, then she can only hire people with the same or less experience than her. That's not putting words in your mouth - that's drawing a logical conclusion based on what you are saying about the Chancellor.

I think what he's really trying to say is that she is an inexperienced Chancellor, so she shouldn't be the Chancellor. Which is another argument altogether that can be debated and is at least cogent.
 
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I readily admit that I did not follow every little detail of the search. However, the cliff notes definitely give the impression that our new chancellor was more concerned with showing that she is in charge than having a thorough search process.

Our new AD may be the stuff of legends 50 years from now. It is the political feel of this search and hire that sours me on the whole situation.
 
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Headed For Home said:
I readily admit that I did not follow every little detail of the search. However, the cliff notes definitely give the impression that our new chancellor was more concerned with showing that she is in charge than having a thorough search process.

Our new AD may be the stuff of legends 50 years from now. It is the political feel of this search and hire that sours me on the whole situation.
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Definitely, as do comments like this from people involved with the K State program:

https://soundcloud.com/sportsradiok...ndcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=twitter
 
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Asking for someone to interview candidates (plural) to determine their capabilities, instead of automatically excluding them, when you,yourself, were awarded that same fair treatment?

Then, making a decision based upon BOTH capabilities AND performance.


Yeah, I'm completely out of control.




Or, you have no reasonable explanation why this would be unacceptable and just want no one to offer legitimate concerns.
 
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05_never_again said:
No. Quite amazing that this is her first chancellor job, and within her few weeks at said job she has to hire an AD.
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Never been a Chancellor at a power 5 school....but wanted an experienced power 5 AD. UT president didn't seem to mind experience when looking for chancellor
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Some of our fans are so hung up on Blackburn about as worse as a clingy girlfriend. Move on people, give Currie a chance and let it be.
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I get the "move on", normally I'd agree, but it's a message board in the offseason and this is a pretty big deal. It's been dragged along for several months, and the hire is only a couple of days old. I see no reason to start the move ons yet. jmo tho.

As far as the Blackburn comment, KB has explained it several times and I think he's done a good job as far as detailing why it's such a disappointment. Disagree all you want, but I disagree with the "clingy girlfriend" comment.

Have no choice but to give Currie a chance. Why do people keep saying " give him a chance"? Lol.
 
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jbr82 said:
Never been a Chancellor at a power 5 school....but wanted an experienced power 5 AD. UT president didn't seem to mind experience when looking for chancellor
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She's never been a Chancellor, period. Not at Harvard, not at Extreme North-Northwest Montana Tech, not anywhere.

The beef about Davenport not having experience is to take up with the UT President, not the Chancellor.

I don't consider it hypocritical for Davenport to look for an AD with P5 experience, regardless of her own lack of experience in her own position. She's supposed to be acting in the best interests of the school.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
You speak for me also.

Hey Behr, do you remember seeing something before Christmas that said that Davenport would not hire anyone that was connected to the Title IX issues?
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Not sure you want anyone knowing I speak for you. Haha.

No, I don't remember that, but that obviously doesn't mean she didn't say it.
 
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